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fettpett
05-17-2011, 09:44 AM
NEW YORK Two leading makers of lighting products are showcasing LED bulbs that are bright enough to replace energy-guzzling 100-watt light bulbs set to disappear from stores in January.
Their demonstrations at the LightFair trade show in Philadelphia this week mean that brighter LED bulbs will likely go on sale next year, but after a government ban takes effect.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110516/ap_on_hi_te/us_led_lighting;_ylt=AsE3Gkdtse.WMyLRBM_sWOCs0NUE; _ylu=X3oDMTNqNzVocWJlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNTE2L3VzX 2xlZF9saWdodGluZwRjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzg EcG9zAzUEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9sa XN0BHNsawNs


stupid AP :(


good old incandecent lightblubs are being banned at the end of the year, however their most viable replacement's aren't that great and the LED version will cost $50:eek:

Calypso Jones
05-17-2011, 10:08 AM
$50 bucks apiece. I predict a run on candles and batteries. and an increase in electric rates.

fettpett
05-17-2011, 10:21 AM
$50 bucks apiece. I predict a run on candles and batteries. and an increase in electric rates.

run on blubs before they get banned and hording afterward, expect black market ones from Mexico and Canada as well as ebay prices going through the roof

PoliCon
05-17-2011, 10:50 AM
nullification. Nuff said.

fettpett
05-17-2011, 10:54 AM
nullification. Nuff said.

QFT

Arroyo_Doble
05-17-2011, 11:12 AM
I have a friend that became slightly obsessed with lightbulbs. He investigated them for months and has been slowly replacing through attrition, and otherwise, the bulbs in his home. After the electric bill arrives, he is always eager to tell me how low his has gotten.

Kinda weird but the dude is probably one of the best people I know when it comes to money.

Calypso Jones
05-17-2011, 11:17 AM
I have a friend that became slightly obsessed with lightbulbs. He investigated them for months and has been slowly replacing through attrition, and otherwise, the bulbs in his home. After the electric bill arrives, he is always eager to tell me how low his has gotten.

Kinda weird but the dude is probably one of the best people I know when it comes to money.

so what are you saying he is doing? going led or cfl or what? and you know. some guys, in an effort to 'save money' will do the oddest things that in the long run does not make their family happy or the change worth the effort. Do i have to remind you of some guys intent to save on mileage.

Novaheart
05-17-2011, 11:27 AM
I have a friend that became slightly obsessed with lightbulbs. He investigated them for months and has been slowly replacing through attrition, and otherwise, the bulbs in his home. After the electric bill arrives, he is always eager to tell me how low his has gotten.

Kinda weird but the dude is probably one of the best people I know when it comes to money.

I have a business acquaintance who claims that after switching to CFL all over her house, her electric bill has dropped dramatically. As this is a wealthy woman whose home probably uses more electricity to run the pool pump, jacuzzi, and boat AC than I use for my whole house, I find it hard to believe that lighting uses that much electric. My lowest bill evah, was eighty dollars and that was while I was on vacation.

The fridge, water heater, and AC are the big ticket items. Only by restricting use of hot water and AC do I keep my bill in check. Otherwise, it would be $300/mo/.

Arroyo_Doble
05-17-2011, 11:31 AM
so what are you saying he is doing? going led or cfl or what? and you know. some guys, in an effort to 'save money' will do the oddest things that in the long run does not make their family happy or the change worth the effort. Do i have to remind you of some guys intent to save on mileage.

He started with CFL but quickly moved to LED. He would tell me the virtues and savings to be had and when my wife, who cannot stand anything but incandescent, would object on aesthetic grounds, he would talk about different types of light you can buy with LED.

He was like a salesman, I swear. But like I said, the guy is great with money.

Arroyo_Doble
05-17-2011, 11:33 AM
I have a business acquaintance who claims that after switching to CFL all over her house, her electric bill has dropped dramatically. As this is a wealthy woman whose home probably uses more electricity to run the pool pump, jacuzzi, and boat AC than I use for my whole house, I find it hard to believe that lighting uses that much electric. My lowest bill evah, was eighty dollars and that was while I was on vacation.

The fridge, water heater, and AC are the big ticket items. Only by restricting use of hot water and AC do I keep my bill in check. Otherwise, it would be $300/mo/.

He lives in a modest house. Lights are a bigger percentage of his bill. It is also gas (like mine) so heating and cooking does not impact his electric bill.

namvet
05-17-2011, 11:34 AM
The new bulbs will also be expensive about $50 each so the development may not prevent consumers from hoarding traditional bulbs.

that's me. ive already bought a shit load of the conventional type in diff size's. and still adding on.

CFL's have toxic merc. "dispose of properly"

How many Democrats does it take to change a light bulb?

Only one, but the bulb has got to really WANT to change

Gingersnap
05-17-2011, 11:49 AM
I'm basically waiting for bright LED bulbs. I hate bridge technology and there's no way that CFLs make sense for me either from a practical standpoint or from an aesthetic one. When they get the right output and color, I'll convert everything. LEDs make much more sense than CFLs in terms of efficiency and lifespan.

Until then, I'll rest easy on my incandescent hoard. :)

Apocalypse
05-17-2011, 12:12 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110516/ap_on_hi_te/us_led_lighting;_ylt=AsE3Gkdtse.WMyLRBM_sWOCs0NUE; _ylu=X3oDMTNqNzVocWJlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwNTE2L3VzX 2xlZF9saWdodGluZwRjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzg EcG9zAzUEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9sa XN0BHNsawNs


stupid AP :(


good old incandecent lightblubs are being banned at the end of the year, however their most viable replacement's aren't that great and the LED version will cost $50:eek:
These new energy eff. ones they are pushing are toxic as hell and not every where has means to dispose of them properly. (IE Where I live) In addition they are meant to be left on, not turned on and off a lot. As that shortens their life span. So I see these going away in time.

The old bulbs, love them/hate them, can't do away with them completely, and silly they try. There will always be a need for them.

The new LED bulbs, pricey at $50, but take in mind, they last 7 years min. We use them already in our store, as they are cheap as hell on elec. and our utility bills would shock people here. And in time, that price will come down some. With an average old fashion bulb lasting about 370 days at a cost of about $.50 a pop on the cheap side, where the LED ones average $7.14 per year break down on the same life span, its pricey. But like I said, that will come down as more companies produce them, and tech brings that price down as well. And like I've said, we have them in our store, and they are in ways brighter then the old bulbs, with a fraction of the energy use.

FlaGator
05-17-2011, 12:24 PM
I've been stockpiling 100 watt bulbs for a while. The 100 and larger bulbs are going to be the first they stop manufactoring.

This reminds me of the Seinfeld "Sponge" episode.

namvet
05-17-2011, 12:25 PM
the links say 100W. is that all?? do they come in diff wattages???

years ago i changed all my lamps over to 3 way. 30-70-100W. and at night we use mainly the 30W

namvet
05-17-2011, 12:27 PM
I've been stockpiling 100 watt bulbs for a while. The 100 and larger bulbs are going to be the first they stop manufactoring.

This reminds me of the Seinfeld "Sponge" episode.

same here. but the 100's are in my garage. not inside.

Novaheart
05-17-2011, 01:35 PM
I'm basically waiting for bright LED bulbs. I hate bridge technology and there's no way that CFLs make sense for me either from a practical standpoint or from an aesthetic one. When they get the right output and color, I'll convert everything. LEDs make much more sense than CFLs in terms of efficiency and lifespan.

Until then, I'll rest easy on my incandescent hoard. :)

I found the very low wattage DC lighting in my trailer to be more than adequate. As a seasonal "camper" I also had some AC lights in there, and nothing built -in compared to the riot light needed when sewing or working on a fine motor repair, but for reading, cooking, and everyday living the DC lights were fine. I love trailers.

Novaheart
05-17-2011, 01:37 PM
Make it illegal for anyone born after 1964 to use air conditioning. Problem solved for fifty years.

Gingersnap
05-17-2011, 01:52 PM
Make it illegal for anyone born after 1964 to use air conditioning. Problem solved for fifty years.

I don't use it now. :p

FlaGator
05-17-2011, 02:35 PM
I don't use it now. :p

But you don't live in Florida either.

fettpett
05-17-2011, 02:52 PM
He started with CFL but quickly moved to LED. He would tell me the virtues and savings to be had and when my wife, who cannot stand anything but incandescent, would object on aesthetic grounds, he would talk about different types of light you can buy with LED.

He was like a salesman, I swear. But like I said, the guy is great with money.

LED's are awesome technology, just way to damn expensive, they will also last much longer than CFL or incandescence. The problem isn't these technologies though, it's the fact that the government shoved this crap down our throats

Gingersnap
05-17-2011, 04:32 PM
But you don't live in Florida either.

Nor would I. Although thousands of people lived there before AC was invented.

Arroyo_Doble
05-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Nor would I. Although thousands of people lived there before AC was invented.

And now that it has been invented, millions do.