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megimoo
05-18-2011, 06:25 PM
Confusion after Vice President Biden landed in Chicago on Monday almost resulted in a collision between two passenger planes just above the tarmac at O’Hare International Airport , according to federal officials and air traffic recordings.

The near-collision involved a pair of 50-seat, twin-engine commuter jets, one inbound from Muskegon, Mich., and the other taking off for Buffalo. The planes came within 300 feet of colliding, a crash that was averted as an angry pilot and a surprised air traffic controller expressed their dismay with expletives.

A controller supervisor stepped in, ordering that the inbound plane, a SkyWest Airlines Canadair jet with 29 people aboard, abort its landing to avoid an ExpressJet Airlines Embraer ERJ-145 that was rolling down a runway toward takeoff.

“Oh, [expletive],” said the controller who had ordered the ExpressJet to take off, according to a recording of the tower traffic.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/passenger-jets-nearly-collide-after-biden-plane-lands-in-chicago/2011/05/18/AFYbKf6G_story.html

Comments:
How many people have died or almost died during Biden's entourages?
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Somehow I am not surprised. When papa joe came calling for campaign cash and to try and foist a woefully bad dem candidate for US congress on us 1 year ago,his entourage was enormous. There were at least a dozen vehicles including an ambulance and a tank like vehicle. This entourage snarled up traffic for hours in both directions. Many still ask why the loser couldn't take a damn helicopter the 4 miles he had to travel to the venue.

My comfort is that the dem candidate lost handily in Nov!!!
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I remember from my flight training, something called wingtip vortex, generated by large aircraft like the C17. (This is in reference to Michelle's aircraft following too closely.)
As far as O'Hare goes, it is insane there under routine circumstances.
And one more thing - I sat at the Philadelphia Airport back around 1967, when LBJ held the Glassboro summit with whoever was head of the USSR at the time. Every flight was held up until they departed the airport, and it was almost like a video game when they let all of the airplanes loose. Buzzing like flies, with aircraft crossing each other's paths with intersecting runways.
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It seems that the problem stems from the disruption of normal ATC activities in order to give special attention to planes carrying VIPs. Maybe if the controllers had to follow standard procedures no matter who's plane it was, these incidences would be reduced.
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djones520
05-18-2011, 06:29 PM
I wonder if this really had anything to do with Biden landing, or if it was just a coincidence.

Rockntractor
05-18-2011, 06:34 PM
I wonder if this really had anything to do with Biden landing, or if it was just a coincidence.

Probably coincidence but the could have been distracted.

djones520
05-18-2011, 06:36 PM
Probably coincidence but the could have been distracted.

Reading through the story, that might have been it. They also noted the guy was still brand new. Had just been certified a couple weeks before.

lacarnut
05-18-2011, 06:39 PM
I wonder if this really had anything to do with Biden landing, or if it was just a coincidence.

I wonder if these controllers do not need additional training. Putting that aside, Biden is a disaster waiting to happen.

djones520
05-18-2011, 06:43 PM
I wonder if these controllers do not need additional training. Putting that aside, Biden is a disaster waiting to happen.

That's always a possibility as well. Honestly though, I've seen these guys do their jobs, and I've got nothing but respect for how they've managed to keep more major accidents from occuring. It's gotta be an extremely challenging job, especially at airports like Chicago.

Rockntractor
05-18-2011, 06:44 PM
I wonder if these controllers do not need additional training. Putting that aside, Biden is a disaster waiting to happen.

If I were one to believe in luck I would say bad luck follows him around. No matter how well people are trained, life isn't perfect and mistakes are made, I am just glad we were fortunate enough not to have a crash here.

Madisonian
05-18-2011, 06:45 PM
Its a conspiracy.
Did you notice that Obama and AF1 had to abort and retry landing and within the same 24 hours Biden almost crashes in Chicago?

Its probably Boehner. After all, if he can get rid of numbers 1 and 2, he's next to get the keys to the Presidential Pisser.

Either that or its the Libyans trying to avenge Daffy Duck's dead family members.