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namvet
05-18-2011, 07:42 PM
Nearly three out of four voters -- 73 percent -- say the United States should stop sending foreign aid until Pakistan demonstrates a deeper commitment to the war against terrorism. Some 19 percent would continue to provide funding.

Agreement is widespread, as majorities of Republicans (84 percent), Democrats (67 percent) and independents (66 percent), as well as both men (73 percent) and women (73 percent) say the U.S. should cut off funding to Pakistan.

FOX (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/18/fox-news-poll-voters-say-stop-aid-pakistan/)

screw em. wack em off they had their chance

megimoo
05-18-2011, 08:08 PM
Nearly three out of four voters -- 73 percent -- say the United States should stop sending foreign aid until Pakistan demonstrates a deeper commitment to the war against terrorism. Some 19 percent would continue to provide funding.

Agreement is widespread, as majorities of Republicans (84 percent), Democrats (67 percent) and independents (66 percent), as well as both men (73 percent) and women (73 percent) say the U.S. should cut off funding to Pakistan.

FOX (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/18/fox-news-poll-voters-say-stop-aid-pakistan/)

screw em. wack em off they had their chance
We have practiced 'Dollar Diplomacy' for years too keep these crazy people from falling into the Islamic quagmire.
Those in power in these Islamic countries have held back the hoards by payoffs and handouts using our bribe money .
If we stop now the Islamists will surge into power and sell the warheads to the Islamic radicals to blow up the Israelis .That will lead to an mideast war to end all wars.

namvet
05-18-2011, 08:33 PM
We have practiced 'Dollar Diplomacy' for years too keep these crazy people from falling into the Islamic quagmire.
Those in power in these Islamic countries have held back the hoards by payoffs and handouts using our bribe money .
If we stop now the Islamists will surge into power and sell the warheads to the Islamic radicals to blow up the Israelis .That will lead to an mideast war to end all wars.

they've already kicked or reduced our military there. i think they want us all out. and they've been helping terrorist now for at least 5 or 6 years. do we force ourselves to stay in??? blow up the nukes???

exactly how much force do we use???

PoliCon
05-18-2011, 09:28 PM
Which only goes to show exactly how ignorant people are about the situation. We cannot - MUST NOT end foreign aid to Pakistan. :( Not so long as they have nukes.

megimoo
05-18-2011, 09:35 PM
they've already kicked or reduced our military there. i think they want us all out. and they've been helping terrorist now for at least 5 or 6 years. do we force ourselves to stay in??? blow up the nukes???

exactly how much force do we use???
They have the Nukes scattered around the country in heavily garrisoned bases.Chances of our grabbing them short of an all out invasion are slim at best .We could nuke them but you know where that would lead.
Bin ladin was an Afghan Mujahideen hero during the Soviet invasion and Afghans working for the ISI remember him from that war.It seems natural that they would help an Afghan hero like him .

The Muslims on the street are a raging mob especially after friday noontime prayers when some Immam 'cranks them up' into a great Muslim howling mass .
The Pakistani leaders know that they would be overthrown if they failed to pay the Islamic clerics their Baksheesh so the American Baksheesh is critical to a stable Pakistan .

djones520
05-18-2011, 09:36 PM
They have the Nukes scattered around the country in heavily garrisoned bases.Chances of our grabbing them short of an all out invasion are slim at best .We could nuke them but you know where that would lead.
Bin ladin was an Afghan Mujahideen hero during the Soviet invasion and Afghans working for the ISI remember him from that war.It seems natural that they would help an Afghan hero like him .

The Muslims on the street are a raging mob especially after friday noontime prayers when some Immam 'cranks them up' into a great Muslim howling mass .
The Pakistani leaders know that they would be overthrown if they failed to pay the Islamic clerics their Baksheesh so the American Baksheesh is critical to a stable Pakistan .

Bingo.

Shitty situation, but basically it's the price we're paying to keep those nukes outta the hands of Al Qaida.

namvet
05-18-2011, 09:43 PM
im told the nukes can't be launched. so how certain are we the terrorists don't already have what they need??? more than enough time to get it. there are some things we must assume.

djones520
05-18-2011, 09:44 PM
im told the nukes can't be launched. so how certain are we the terrorists don't already have what they need??? more than enough time to get it. there are some things we must assume.

How do we know they don't have them already?

Bagram AB is still there.

namvet
05-18-2011, 09:47 PM
How do we know they don't have them already?

Bagram AB is still there.

that's first high priority target??? what's BL been doing there all these years. watching goats fuck on TV ???

djones520
05-18-2011, 09:50 PM
that's first high priority target??? what's BL been doing there all these years. watching goats fuck on TV ???

In Afghanistan, Bagram would be the highest priority target to completely screw us over there. They wouldn't even need a direct hit. They'd just have to detonate slightly upwind to shut the place down.

namvet
05-18-2011, 09:50 PM
and where or who is the money going to??? paying a bill to terrorist

djones520
05-18-2011, 09:52 PM
and where or who is the money going to??? paying a bill to terrorist

Keeping the government stable. That's what it's going to. Ensuring that it's not toppled, and all chaos breaks out. Remember what happened to Soviet weapon stock piles after it fell? Think of what would happen if the Pakistani government collapsed.

namvet
05-18-2011, 09:54 PM
In Afghanistan, Bagram would be the highest priority target to completely screw us over there. They wouldn't even need a direct hit. They'd just have to detonate slightly upwind to shut the place down.

how do you know the technology is even there. there's other higher priority targets out of the country. blow up a base right under our nose??? they got bigger plans than that

namvet
05-18-2011, 09:56 PM
Keeping the government stable. That's what it's going to. Ensuring that it's not toppled, and all chaos breaks out. Remember what happened to Soviet weapon stock piles after it fell? Think of what would happen if the Pakistani government collapsed.

agreed. but if it implodes then what ??? a ton of if and buts and maybes

djones520
05-18-2011, 09:57 PM
how do you know the technology is even there. there's other higher priority targets out of the country. blow up a base right under our nose??? they got bigger plans than that

It would be a LOT easier to sneak one of those across the afghan border and close to one of our bases. Thousands of dead American's. Possible chaos in the Afghani government. The Taliban would blow their load at the thought.

What else would they do? Get it onto a ship, and try to get it all the way to the US? Extremely unlikely.

Smart bet would be to hit one of our major military installation that is within easy striking range of where the got the weapon from.

namvet
05-18-2011, 10:00 PM
It would be a LOT easier to sneak one of those across the afghan border and close to one of our bases. Thousands of dead American's. Possible chaos in the Afghani government. The Taliban would blow their load at the thought.

What else would they do? Get it onto a ship, and try to get it all the way to the US? Extremely unlikely.

Smart bet would be to hit one of our major military installation that is within easy striking range of where the got the weapon from.

they want the Jews. more than us.

djones520
05-18-2011, 10:04 PM
they want the Jews. more than us.

Al Qaida and the Taliban? No. They aren't even fighting Israel. Why would they try to nuke them? Why not the enemy that they've been in war for with a decade? Why not hit an easy target that's got 10 thousand or more troops that you can kill in an instant?

It makes no tactical sense at all. These people that we are fighting are not stupid. If they were, we still wouldn't be fighting them.

If they were to hit Israel, there would be international outrage. The world would have no choice at all but to come down on them. Including Arab states, because they would mostly be effected by the fall out. Hitting a legitimate target, one they've been at war with for 10 years would have a lot less political fall out.

megimoo
05-18-2011, 10:08 PM
that's first high priority target??? what's BL been doing there all these years. watching goats fuck on TV ???
He was the most wanted man on earth.If he stuck his nose out side his window about a dozen Reapers would unload on him.He had learned from past mistakes that electronics emit signals that can be used to locate him so no outside electronic radiation .
He was largely a figurehead by this time and his death was political vengeance for his past deeds against America....Bush had it right,Bin Laden no longer mattered in the war on terror.

namvet
05-18-2011, 10:14 PM
Al Qaida and the Taliban? No. They aren't even fighting Israel. Why would they try to nuke them? Why not the enemy that they've been in war for with a decade? Why not hit an easy target that's got 10 thousand or more troops that you can kill in an instant?

It makes no tactical sense at all. These people that we are fighting are not stupid. If they were, we still wouldn't be fighting them.

If they were to hit Israel, there would be international outrage. The world would have no choice at all but to come down on them. Including Arab states, because they would mostly be effected by the fall out. Hitting a legitimate target, one they've been at war with for 10 years would have a lot less political fall out.


Al Qaida and the Taliban? No. They aren't even fighting Israel


Al Qaeda's Jihad Against Israel and Jews - Al Qaeda Renews Call For Attacks On Israel and Jew

source (http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/al-Qaeda_jews_israel.htm)


I supose there's a fine line here???

namvet
05-18-2011, 10:16 PM
He was the most wanted man on earth.If he stuck his nose out side his window about a dozen Reapers would unload on him.He had learned from past mistakes that electronics emit signals that can be used to locate him so no outside electronic radiation .
He was largely a figurehead by this time and his death was political vengeance for his past deeds against America....Bush had it right,Bin Laden no longer mattered in the war on terror.

remember the runners??? how long were they running before he was killed??? he was not the idiot we took him for. right up to the end.

megimoo
05-18-2011, 10:49 PM
Al Qaida and the Taliban? No. They aren't even fighting Israel. Why would they try to nuke them? Why not the enemy that they've been in war for with a decade? Why not hit an easy target that's got 10 thousand or more troops that you can kill in an instant?

It makes no tactical sense at all. These people that we are fighting are not stupid. If they were, we still wouldn't be fighting them.

If they were to hit Israel, there would be international outrage. The world would have no choice at all but to come down on them. Including Arab states, because they would mostly be effected by the fall out. Hitting a legitimate target, one they've been at war with for 10 years would have a lot less political fall out.

" If they were to hit Israel, there would be international outrage. The world would have no choice at all but to come down on them. Including Arab states, because they would mostly be effected by the fall out. Hitting a legitimate target, one they've been at war with for 10 years would have a lot less political fall out"..your words..

Here we depart..Israel is the prime target of the Arabs,their major fixation has always been the Jews.The practicalitys of logistic would make it almost imposible for the Teleban to smuggle a warhead into or even close to Israel.

I don't think that the Muslim Brotherhood or any of the other Arab terror groups give a fiddlers fart about fallout on the Arab street,If they're willing to kill their own children as suicide bombers they'll kill anyone.An international outrage would be meaningles to them and the Arab states would either say nothing or cheer them for their victory over the Jews.

I agree that they would try for an American base if they had a Pakistani nuke and the bigger the better .America has radiation detectors all over the place and so does Israel.I would imagine that Bagram AFB has detectors or will soon have them in lite of the current situations in Afghanistan.

With Bin Ladin dead It will all be over soon with the UK and Germany withdrawing their troops from the region giving Obama a perfect excuse to retreat and call it a wash.The Taliban will move in, decalre victory and return to the old tribal ways ...It has come full circle, the Arabs will have Afghanistan back,we have avenged our honor for 9/11 and the beat goes on .

The Saudi's have recently invested in radiation detection equipment for their border stations with remote static 'sniffer' and aircraft to detect radiation from likely desert transit routes .

Any Nuclear warhead radiates gama rays as part of it's decay process that are easily detected .The only way to stop or limit the radiation is heavy lead shielding and makes them very heavy to haul anywhere and easily spotted by portable xray detectors .

megimoo
05-18-2011, 11:01 PM
remember the runners??? how long were they running before he was killed??? he was not the idiot we took him for. right up to the end.

They picked up his trail largely by accident .His runner became very careless once we knew what to look for .With all the resources we used it was inevitable that we would eventually find him.
How effective can one isolated man be if he depends on Nikenet/Sneakernet to dispatch his emails to his terror groups?....Clancy wrote an interesting story about the hunt for one one terrorist in Europe that spelled out just what we can do to run down and kill a wanted man .