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djones520
05-22-2011, 08:39 PM
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Pakistan has asked China to build a naval base at its south-western port of Gwadar and expects the Chinese navy to maintain a regular presence there, a plan likely to alarm both India and the US.

“We have asked our Chinese brothers to please build a naval base at Gwadar,” Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar, Pakistan’s defence minister, told the Financial Times, confirming that the request was conveyed to China during a visit last week by Yusuf Raza Gilani, Pakistan’s prime minister.

Hitherto, China has shied away from moves that might alienate the US and Beijing’s neighbours, such as India, Malaysia and Indonesia. “China’s rise is a beneficial force for peace and we have no hegemonic ambitions,” said a Chinese official familiar with Beijing’s security policy.

But Christopher Yung, senior research fellow at National Defense University in Washington, said in a recent paper “the nature and degree of China’s access to out-of-area bases will be the ultimate indication and warning” of its eventual intention to become a global military power. A Pentagon official said: “We have questions and concerns about this development and [China’s] intentions. But that is why we believe it is important to have a healthy, stable and continuous military-to-military relationship.”

A senior Pakistani official familiar with Sino-Pakistani discussions on naval co-operation said: “The naval base is something we hope will allow Chinese vessels to regularly visit in [the] future and also use the place for repair and maintenance of their fleet in the [Indian Ocean region].”


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Interesting...

fettpett
05-22-2011, 08:44 PM
take them what? 15 years to get it up and operational?

djones520
05-22-2011, 08:46 PM
take them what? 15 years to get it up and operational?

Unlikely. Ready labor pool in Pakistan would have it built pretty quickly. Would be a nice addition to their navy with the carrier's their getting ready to launch.

fettpett
05-22-2011, 08:49 PM
Unlikely. Ready labor pool in Pakistan would have it built pretty quickly. Would be a nice addition to their navy with the carrier's their getting ready to launch.

getting it built is one thing, getting it up and ready for Naval operations is a different story

djones520
05-22-2011, 08:51 PM
getting it built is one thing, getting it up and ready for Naval operations is a different story

A well trained force can have it ready to go in a matter of days. I've partaken in exercises that had about 500 airman show up in a field with a landing strip, and we had aircraft flying in and out 3 days later.

fettpett
05-22-2011, 08:56 PM
A well trained force can have it ready to go in a matter of days. I've partaken in exercises that had about 500 airman show up in a field with a landing strip, and we had aircraft flying in and out 3 days later.

i could be wrong, but there is a difference between flying in an airplane, even a C-130 and docking Naval ships, especially Cruisers, Destroyers and Carriers

djones520
05-22-2011, 08:59 PM
i could be wrong, but there is a difference between flying in an airplane, even a C-130 and docking Naval ships, especially Cruisers, Destroyers and Carriers

As long as the facilities are there, and you have trained people, the rest is just topping on the cake.

If we can have a fully operational airport running out of tents in a few days, then the Chinese can have ships docking and refueling in a relatively quick manner.

We won't wake up to a base tomorrow, but it won't take long to do if they move on it. I'd say a couple years at most.

fettpett
05-22-2011, 09:03 PM
As long as the facilities are there, and you have trained people, the rest is just topping on the cake.

If we can have a fully operational airport running out of tents in a few days, then the Chinese can have ships docking and refueling in a relatively quick manner.

We won't wake up to a base tomorrow, but it won't take long to do if they move on it. I'd say a couple years at most.

possible, also depends on the political situation, Pakistan decides to completely throw us out and get closer ties with the Chinese than I can see this going way faster...