PDA

View Full Version : Why all the severe weather?



djones520
05-23-2011, 08:12 PM
Rather lately, I've seen the AGW supporters pushing the opinion that the seasons of Winter and Summer will begin to become longer, and more severe, and Spring and Fall will grow shorter.

The last couple days, as well as the whole next week just shows how wrong they are.

As of right now, we're stuck in a rather "irregular" spring time pattern that usually does not last this late in the year. A massive cold high has established itself over western Canada forcing the Polar Front Jet (PFJ) further south then it usually flows this time of year. Coupled with that, the Subtropical Jet (STJ) is drawing moisture from the Pacific ocean and pushing it into the Central US states. These two jets converge over Colorado, and help to develop a regime we call a Colorado Low, which is the usual culprit in wide spread severe thunderstorms throughout the midwest. With the moisture brought up by the STJ, and then the eventual divergence of the PFJ and STJ, things just get primed for that low pressure system to explode into these waves of severe weather that we are seeing.

Normall this pattern will only last for a few weeks in late April and early May while the jets transition from their winter time positions to their summer time positions, and if the AGW folks were right, these patterns should grow shorter and shorter (much to the relief of some midwesterners I'd say), but as this year is showing, that is far from the case.

So I wonder what they have to say about that.

Rockntractor
05-23-2011, 08:20 PM
Sending message to Hootie via carrier owl!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Pets2_01.gif

Molon Labe
05-23-2011, 08:21 PM
global warming right? :D

JB
05-23-2011, 08:35 PM
Rather lately...<snip>How about any ninos/ninas? Are they in play here?

djones520
05-23-2011, 08:38 PM
How about any ninos/ninas? Are they in play here?

As far as I'm aware, not significantly. The biggest player in whats going on right now is up north. Blame Canada. :D

JB
05-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Blame Canada. :DI have no problem doing that. :p

Rockntractor
05-23-2011, 08:53 PM
We have a big storm breaking loose now.

djones520
05-23-2011, 08:56 PM
We have a big storm breaking loose now.

I'd be expecting stuff like this for the next 3 days or so.

megimoo
05-23-2011, 09:36 PM
Experts Explain What Could Be Behind Wild Weather, "Its Just Bad Luck..."

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Meteorologists said this has been one of the deadliest years for tornados in at least five decades. From abnormal snowfall to severe storms, many wonder what is causing the wild weather this year.

NewsChannel 5's Ron Howes has spent three decades forecasting severe weather in middle Tennessee. Despite different theories, he said this wild year may be nothing more than bad luck....."The atmosphere obviously has been very energetic, part of that may be La Nina. I think more than anything it's the luck of the draw," Howes said.....Meteorologists at the National Weather Service in Mt. Juliet agreed that a cause can be hard to pin down.

"We had one of the worst tornado outbreaks just last month. We had one of the worst killer tornados last night in Missouri. It's tough to tie any one event like that or two or three events like that to la Nina or the potential for global warming," said Larry Vannozzi with the National Weather Service.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14700890/experts-explain-what-could-be-behind-wild-weather

SarasotaRepub
05-23-2011, 09:53 PM
Yes...I'm sure there has NEVER been a spring with severe weather like this...ever. :rolleyes:

Fucking morons...it's SPRING.

You have severe T-Storms and tornado's in the spring.

djones520
05-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Yes...I'm sure there has NEVER been a spring with severe weather like this...ever. :rolleyes:

Fucking morons...it's SPRING.

You have severe T-Storms and tornado's in the spring.

You do, but like I said above it takes place more in late April, Early May. A week long severe event like this is pretty rare this late in spring.

Which just goes to help refute the AGW assholes claims that Spring and Fall are gonna dissapear.

SarasotaRepub
05-23-2011, 10:39 PM
You do, but like I said above it takes place more in late April, Early May. A week long severe event like this is pretty rare this late in spring.

Which just goes to help refute the AGW assholes claims that Spring and Fall are gonna dissapear.


Oh yeah, I know what you're saying. Watch this summer IF we get some hurricanes. They will be reported as BIGGER and MEANER than ANY other storms in recorded time. :rolleyes:

djones520
05-23-2011, 10:45 PM
Oh yeah, I know what you're saying. Watch this summer IF we get some hurricanes. They will be reported as BIGGER and MEANER than ANY other storms in recorded time. :rolleyes:

I'm getting this feeling that this will be a very interesting year weather wise.

Tecate
05-23-2011, 11:09 PM
What's the definition of "severe weather" anyway? For all we know on a 1 million year timeline this could be the calmest most serene weather this planet has ever seen.

djones520
05-23-2011, 11:10 PM
What's the definition of "severe weather" anyway? For all we know on a 1 million year timeline this could be the calmest most serene weather this planet has ever seen.

Severe weather is pretty much defined as having all or some of the following. Winds greater then 50 knots, hail greater then 3/4" and Tornadoes.

Articulate_Ape
05-23-2011, 11:34 PM
People, this planet is so vast and complicated that only the most arrogant could pretend to understand it. A twitch and we see utter destruction (e.g. Japan, Joplin, and sooooooooo many others). Planet Earth goes on. To think that we have the slightest influence on the natural cycles on a planet, whose life span places the existence of our species as but a inconsequential moment, is beyond arrogance; it is the epitome of folly.

bflavin
05-24-2011, 07:31 AM
Today is looking interesting. I'm on the northern end of the high-risk area the SPC outlined earlier, and from a few of the chaser sites I read apparently today's setup looks very similar to the Andover tornado in '93 and the Hesston tornado in '91. Unfortunately for me, I'm working 911 this afternoon so if anything hits my county I'm going to be busier than a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest. We'll see what happens, though.

And the global warming folks are a bunch of jackasses. They got the EPA to put some rules into place to limit the spring burn in the Flint Hills because it "hurts the environment" or some BS like that.

Kay
05-25-2011, 12:03 AM
Well....I'm on fire again. There were 3 separate fires burning within a few miles of me today. Hot dry winds blowing over 40 miles an hour all day kept them going. One crossed our Loop over into the town area, so they had to evacuate a lot of neighborhoods. Little white cinders were falling on my head this afternoon while I was standing outside my office, and our whole building smelled like smoke. Over 4000 acres burned in the one closest to me, and it is still not fully contained.

I don't guess I'll ever see rain again.
All these lines of thunderstorms pop up just north and east of me. :(

Rockntractor
05-25-2011, 12:05 AM
Well....I'm on fire again. There were 3 separate fires burning within a few miles of me today. Hot dry winds blowing over 40 miles an hour all day kept them going. One crossed our Loop over into the town area, so they had to evacuate a lot of neighborhoods. Little white cinders were falling on my head this afternoon while I was standing outside my office, and our whole building smelled like smoke. Over 4000 acres burned in the one closest to me, and it is still not fully contained.

I don't guess I'll ever see rain again.
All these lines of thunderstorms pop up just north and east of me. :(

Unbelievable, while we are being drowned.