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MountainMan
05-25-2011, 01:13 AM
Alright, after years of arguing about what a crappy state Washington is, I finally got my wife to look elsewhere. Right now, Boise is tops on the list followed by Missoula, Cheyenne, Casper, Denver, Santa Fe, Phoenix and Reno.

Now I am finding a bit of information on all those locations but the most conflicting stuff is regarding Colorado. Does anybody have any good links they use for research when they are looking at different areas of the US?

Rockntractor
05-25-2011, 01:36 AM
If I had a redo I would go to New Mexico.

fettpett
05-25-2011, 08:36 AM
well Ginger lives in CO so she's a good source

Zafod
05-25-2011, 08:57 AM
Arizona for sure bud. I will never leave this state!!! Have beautiful parts all over this state.

Gingersnap
05-25-2011, 10:22 AM
What do you want to know?

Politically, Denver and Boulder are left-wing and the city policies reflect that. Denver and Boulder are sanctuary cities for illegal aliens (although fewer illegal aliens can afford to live Boulder). I no longer live in Denver but there are some nice neighborhoods there if you like city living.

Most of the rest of the state (outside of places like Vail) leans right. Colorado Springs is more to the right (and very beautiful).

Most of the population lives in the Front Range corridor between Colorado Springs and Fort Collins. We have over 300 days of sunshine a year, when it snows on the flat, it melts in a couple of days (usually), and we have cooler summers than a lot of the country. There are few bugs. Mountain communities are somewhat colder. The Eastern Plains is mostly like Kansas or Nebraska until you get with 50 miles of Rockies and then it's much higher, drier, and more chaotic in terms of weather. The Western Slope is milder.

Colorado skews younger, skinnier, and more athletic than most of the country. Everybody seems to bike, ski, hike, hunt, raft, ride horses, camp, or climb - pretty much anything outside of water stuff. There are no navigable rivers in Colorado.

We have football, hockey, baseball, and basketball.

Prices are generally higher than in some states, including property prices but taxes are a little better. Crime is mostly confined to the criminals themselves but everybody (outside of Denver) seems to shoot so that might be part of it. We are just about the most bike-friendly state although you will want a good granny-gear. Cars don't rust here. Traffic is pretty awful in the city.

Ask me anything. :D

noonwitch
05-25-2011, 12:50 PM
I'm a Michiganian, and always will be. I haven't traveled extensively, but I visited Colorado in 1981 to attend Young Life camp in the Collegiate Peaks area, which is about an hour west of Colorado Springs. It is the most beautiful place I've ever seen. It was not near any big cities, so I would imagine that the area hasn't changed that much in the 30 years that have passed. The nearest town was Buena Vista.

Gingersnap
05-25-2011, 01:02 PM
I'm a Michiganian, and always will be. I haven't traveled extensively, but I visited Colorado in 1981 to attend Young Life camp in the Collegiate Peaks area, which is about an hour west of Colorado Springs. It is the most beautiful place I've ever seen. It was not near any big cities, so I would imagine that the area hasn't changed that much in the 30 years that have passed. The nearest town was Buena Vista.

Aside from Denver itself, there are no "big" cities in Colorado by Midwestern or East Coast standards. Now, the Front Range is fairly well populated but most of that is suburbs and exurbs that have hubs - there's really no inner city or hipster downtown areas outside of Denver and Boulder. There are a growing number of art districts in the suburbs and exurbs. Virtually all of the housing projects from the 60s (there weren't many) have been torn down now.

People who don't live in Denver seem to prefer a lot more open space and recreational access and we've resisted duplicating the failed downtown Denver model in most communities.

jendf
05-25-2011, 05:25 PM
What kind of information are you looking for?

What's nice about Arizona is we don't have landslides, earthquakes, tornados, or blizzards.

We also don't have much rain which can be a bad thing for our drought. When we do it's usually a fast-moving monsoon storm or a freakish hailstorm like we had in October.

And people tend to get snappish in August when it's 115+ degrees. But we're all quite pleasant in December when the rest of the country is bundled up and we're still wearing t-shirts and shorts.

Politically, our local politicians actually acknowledge that there is an illegal alien problem and are trying their best to get it under control. With absolutely no help from our fearless leaders in Washington.

A lot of entertainers hate our state which I personally think is a huge selling point.

We are hosting the MLB All-Star game in July.

Zafod
05-25-2011, 06:53 PM
What kind of information are you looking for?

What's nice about Arizona is we don't have landslides, earthquakes, tornados, or blizzards.

We also don't have much rain which can be a bad thing for our drought. When we do it's usually a fast-moving monsoon storm or a freakish hailstorm like we had in October.

And people tend to get snappish in August when it's 115+ degrees. But we're all quite pleasant in December when the rest of the country is bundled up and we're still wearing t-shirts and shorts.

Politically, our local politicians actually acknowledge that there is an illegal alien problem and are trying their best to get it under control. With absolutely no help from our fearless leaders in Washington.

A lot of entertainers hate our state which I personally think is a huge selling point.

We are hosting the MLB All-Star game in July.


I am never moving out of AZ. EVER

BadCat
05-25-2011, 07:57 PM
I've lived in all three of those states. Arizona has the best politics, but I liked NM the best.

Rockntractor
05-25-2011, 08:07 PM
I've lived in all three of those states. Arizona has the best politics, but I liked NM the best.

I love NM, until a few years ago I went several times a year for nature photography, I would like to live between Taos and Santa Fe.

BadCat
05-25-2011, 08:10 PM
I love NM, until a few years ago I went several times a year for nature photography, I would like to live between Taos and Santa Fe.

Unfortunately, both of those cities are moonbat havens these days...freakin' Kalifornians.

The area around Espanola is nice.

I like the area down around Las Cruces (I was born there and got my undergrad degree there, so I'm kinda biased).

Gingersnap
05-25-2011, 08:17 PM
I love NM, until a few years ago I went several times a year for nature photography, I would like to live between Taos and Santa Fe.

One of the BILs lived in Taos for years. It's pretty but like Bad Cat says, it's also pretty hippie-heavy.

MountainMan
05-25-2011, 11:17 PM
What do you want to know?

Politically, Denver and Boulder are left-wing and the city policies reflect that. Denver and Boulder are sanctuary cities for illegal aliens (although fewer illegal aliens can afford to live Boulder). I no longer live in Denver but there are some nice neighborhoods there if you like city living.

Most of the rest of the state (outside of places like Vail) leans right. Colorado Springs is more to the right (and very beautiful).

Most of the population lives in the Front Range corridor between Colorado Springs and Fort Collins. We have over 300 days of sunshine a year, when it snows on the flat, it melts in a couple of days (usually), and we have cooler summers than a lot of the country. There are few bugs. Mountain communities are somewhat colder. The Eastern Plains is mostly like Kansas or Nebraska until you get with 50 miles of Rockies and then it's much higher, drier, and more chaotic in terms of weather. The Western Slope is milder.

Colorado skews younger, skinnier, and more athletic than most of the country. Everybody seems to bike, ski, hike, hunt, raft, ride horses, camp, or climb - pretty much anything outside of water stuff. There are no navigable rivers in Colorado.

We have football, hockey, baseball, and basketball.

Prices are generally higher than in some states, including property prices but taxes are a little better. Crime is mostly confined to the criminals themselves but everybody (outside of Denver) seems to shoot so that might be part of it. We are just about the most bike-friendly state although you will want a good granny-gear. Cars don't rust here. Traffic is pretty awful in the city.

Ask me anything. :D

After dealing with these leftwing kooks in Washington State since 91, Im sure they are slightly less kooky in Colorado than here.

My kid plays lacrosse and we wants to play at the college level. I know both Colorado State and Denver University have good lacrosse programs but how good are their academics?

How far is Colorado Springs from Denver perchance?

Gingersnap
05-25-2011, 11:40 PM
After dealing with these leftwing kooks in Washington State since 91, Im sure they are slightly less kooky in Colorado than here.

My kid plays lacrosse and we wants to play at the college level. I know both Colorado State and Denver University have good lacrosse programs but how good are their academics?

How far is Colorado Springs from Denver perchance?

DU is very excellent academically (as is Colorado College - go Tigers!), CSU is on par with most of the better state colleges but it depends on the major.

Colorado Springs is about 60 miles from Denver so it's vaguely an hour unless the weather is bad. I work with a number of people who commute from the Springs and they certainly think it's worth it. I commute eastward out of the foothills. You just learn to go with the weather flow.

MountainMan
05-25-2011, 11:53 PM
DU is very excellent academically (as is Colorado College - go Tigers!), CSU is on par with most of the better state colleges but it depends on the major.

Colorado Springs is about 60 miles from Denver so it's vaguely an hour unless the weather is bad. I work with a number of people who commute from the Springs and they certainly think it's worth it. I commute eastward out of the foothills. You just learn to go with the weather flow.

What about the overall business climate in Colorado? Is it easy to start a business in the state or is it like Washington where the state and the regulators put every conceivable roadblock in your way?

MountainMan
05-25-2011, 11:56 PM
I just found out that the company I work for has a terminal in Colorado Springs and Grand Junction too.... I thought they only had one in Denver. This is very interesting. :)

MountainMan
05-25-2011, 11:58 PM
Commerce City in Denver. Is that a decent part of town?

Gingersnap
05-26-2011, 12:13 AM
Commerce City in Denver. Is that a decent part of town?

*laughs weakly*

Commerce City is north of Denver (somewhat). It's a changing area. There are some good neighborhoods there and some good schools but it's also an area that is in transition with a lot of illegal aliens, light industry, and indifferent tract housing with few entertainment attractions outside of strip malls. However, it is changing and newcomers are fueling that change.

It's very convenient to Denver and not too far from the mountains.

Rockntractor
05-26-2011, 12:28 AM
Commerce City in Denver. Is that a decent part of town?

You might want to black out a few of your teeth so they don't think your a tourist.