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Gingersnap
06-08-2011, 12:44 PM
Man Faces Lawsuit for Billboard on Girlfriend’s Abortion

by Steven Ertelt | Alamogordo, NM | LifeNews.com | 6/7/11 12:31 PM

A New Mexico man faces a lawsuit form his former girlfriend over a public billboard he paid for that exposed the abortion decision she made and his grief that it robbed him of his child.

Greg Fultz erected the billboard weeks ago with the words, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-Month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child!” The billboard shows a picture of Fultz holding an outline of a an infant.

“My original intentions when I started this campaign were quite simple,” Fultz said. “I just wanted to shed the light on pro-life issues and fathers’ rights. I have had no closure over my own personal loss and that’s where the billboard came into play.”

Now, Fultz’s girlfriend has sued and claiming the billboard violates her right to privacy and a local court has suggested that the billboard be removed. Fultz and his attorney have appealed the restraining order saying that his rights to free speech are abridged by it.

This is fascinating - not only the free speech implications but the ethical side. It may be her unilateral decision but it was his baby. Does he have to shut up about it for the rest of his life? :confused:

Pic at the link.

Life News (http://www.lifenews.com/2011/06/07/man-faces-lawsuit-for-billboard-on-girlfriends-abortion/)

Bailey
06-08-2011, 12:47 PM
This is fascinating - not only the free speech implications but the ethical side. It may be her unilateral decision but it was his baby. Does he have to shut up about it for the rest of his life? :confused:

Pic at the link.

Life News (http://www.lifenews.com/2011/06/07/man-faces-lawsuit-for-billboard-on-girlfriends-abortion/)

Unless he is committing Libel, I dont know what she can do.

Gingersnap
06-08-2011, 01:46 PM
Unless he is committing Libel, I dont know what she can do.

I'm guessing she will try to make it a privacy issue. Pregnancy seems like a real gray area in terms of privacy violations. If she hadn't had an abortion, her reproductive status would become public anyway. Since he claims she did and it's his kid, does he have the right to disclose the information since he's genetically involved? :confused:

pyackog
06-08-2011, 01:51 PM
I'm guessing she will try to make it a privacy issue. Pregnancy seems like a real gray area in terms of privacy violations. If she hadn't had an abortion, her reproductive status would become public anyway. Since he claims she did and it's his kid, does he have the right to disclose the information since he's genetically involved? :confused:

I wouldn't think privacy would be a legitimate issue here. The woman is not named on the billboard...anyone who could infer who she is by the picture of the father who would presumably be an acquantance of theirs who he could just talk to about it I would guess.

Of course, I'm trying to apply common sense to the law and that's probably my first mistake here...:)

linda22003
06-08-2011, 02:05 PM
I think he's a putz, but he doesn't seem to have mentioned her name.

noonwitch
06-08-2011, 03:18 PM
I just wonder if he is truly pro-life or just really pissed off at his ex girlfriend.

linda22003
06-08-2011, 03:22 PM
I just wonder if he is truly pro-life or just really pissed off at his ex girlfriend.

It's certainly possible to be both; if only the latter, I'd think he would have mentioned her name in big letters.

wilbur
06-08-2011, 03:53 PM
The real privacy concern is that it is now public knowledge that she hit that.... damn.

fettpett
06-08-2011, 03:55 PM
The real privacy concern is that it is now public knowledge that she hit that.... damn.

and it's public knowledge that you are a moron....

Gingersnap
06-08-2011, 04:22 PM
The real privacy concern is that it is now public knowledge that she hit that.... damn.

*snicker*

jendf
06-08-2011, 04:37 PM
and it's public knowledge that you are a moron....

Oh, c'mon, that was kind of funny.

NJCardFan
06-08-2011, 04:50 PM
I think he's a putz, but he doesn't seem to have mentioned her name.
Explain why he's a putz. I will wait for your reply before replying in earnest.

fettpett
06-08-2011, 04:53 PM
Oh, c'mon, that was kind of funny.

it was, but we know his stance on abortion and will come in with his tripe sooner or later

NJCardFan
06-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Explain why he's a putz. I will wait for your reply before replying in earnest.
I'm still waiting for an answer from #'s on this question.

Odysseus
06-09-2011, 12:45 PM
I heard about this on the radio yesterday. As the article points out, the woman claimed that she did not have an abortion, but a miscarriage. If this is true, then the sign is a libel. In addition, some points that the commentators made that weren't in the article:


Fultz has a history of violent threats against his ex, many of which were documented on his Twitter page. They read a few of his entries, and they were really vile.
The name of his ex is Nani. The organization, N.A.N.I that the billboard claims it was made for, is simply her name, converted into an acronym.


The ex's lawsuit charges him with invasion of privacy and harrassment. Given the background, she's definitely proven the harrassment. I think that she also should have included libel or slander under the suit, since she will ought to be able to provide medical records attesting to the miscarriage, and the placement of her name in the billboard clearly demonstrates that he was defaming her.

BTW, Fultz had the right to put up the billboard. The First Amendment is absolute on that, but there are consequences to free speech, in the form of torts, or wrongful acts. Just because I have the right to say something doesn't mean that the people that I say it about have no right to redress. If she can prove damages, he may end up regretting opening up this can of worms.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 12:48 PM
I'm still waiting for an answer from #'s on this question.

It's a goofy thing to do. And a face that looks like his doesn't look good in billboard size. Seriously, who does something like this over a bad breakup?

linda22003
06-09-2011, 12:51 PM
I had heard the stalker and harassment info yesterday as well. If that's not a putz, I don't know what is.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 12:58 PM
"He admits that when the relationship ended, the baby was lost, but he does not know whether it was due to an abortion or a miscarriage. Fultz says that Lawrence would not tell him what happened."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/abortion-billboard-lands-mexico-man-court-girlfriend/story?id=13783668

Putz.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 01:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xg8sW.jpg


hmmmm.... Psycho Putz. :cool:

linda22003
06-09-2011, 01:21 PM
And this article says that when they were together, she was EIGHTEEN to his THIRTY-FIVE.

Your turn, NJCard - tell me why he is NOT a Putz. :cool:

National Post (f/k/a The Financial Post) (Canada)

June 9, 2011 Thursday
National Edition

She killed mychild, lover's billboard says; Man claims girlfriend had an abortion

BYLINE: Zelie Pollon, Reuters, With Files From News Services

SECTION: CANADA; Pg. A6

LENGTH: 406 words

DATELINE: SANTA FE, N.M.


S A N T A F E , N.M. . A New Mexico man who said he was upset his girlfriend had an abortion bought a highway billboard and accused her of killing their child.

The billboard, in Alamogordo, south of Albuquerque, shows Greg Fultz, 35, holding the outline of a baby in his arms. It reads, "This Would Have Been A Picture of My 2month-Old Baby If the Mother Had Decided to NOT Kill Our Child!"

Calling the billboard harassment and an invasion of privacy, the former girlfriend, Nani Lawrence, has taken him to court under the New Mexico Family Violence Protection Act.

But Mr. Fultz says he's exercising his First Amendment rights, said his attorney, Todd Holmes.

"Citizens have the right to express their speech through any media and he chose a billboard," Mr. Holmes said. "We feel a billboard fits within the First Amendment even if it's offensive to some."

A petition filed by Ms. Lawrence says Mr. Fultz had a pattern of stalking and harassment, including posting "intimate cyber shots of me from one of our cyber dates," she wrote.

The petition alleging domestic abuse also requests that the billboard be removed and online harassment stopped.

Mr. Fultz, who runs a computer services business, had the billboard put up in midMay.

In a hearing last week, a judge ordered the billboard to come down by mid-June.

Mr. Holmes said he plans to file a motion to keep the billboard up, but his client is ready to face prison if necessary.

"That's how passionately he feels about protecting his free speech," he said.

The lawyer said when Mr. Fultz and Ms. Lawrence, who was then 18, found out she was pregnant, she wanted to get married. Mr. Fultz refused.

During a church camping trip there was a "discussion about an ultimatum -either 'You marry me or I'm not going to have this baby' type of thing."

The woman later flew to Wisconsin for work and when she returned she was no longer pregnant, Mr. Holmes said. She did not explain what happened, but Mr. Fultz suspected she had an abortion.

"I know it's her body," Mr. Holmes said. "But his statement is more along the lines of 'Hey, you know what? Dads have a decision in the process too.' "

New Mexico's Right to Life Committee initially endorsed the billboard, but has withdrawn its support because it received a number of emails from people who said the woman had a miscarriage, not an abortion, said Dauneen Dolce, the executive director.

Some of Ms. Lawrence's friends also say she had a miscarriage.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 01:28 PM
I'm still waiting for an answer from #'s on this question.

And boy, have I replied. You may now reply "in earnest", as you said.

Odysseus
06-09-2011, 02:44 PM
It's a goofy thing to do. And a face that looks like his doesn't look good in billboard size. Seriously, who does something like this over a bad breakup?
That face would look creepy on a postage stamp. He looks like a stalker, especially on his Twitter page.

And this article says that when they were together, she was EIGHTEEN to his THIRTY-FIVE.
Oh, this just keeps getting better. He knocked up a girl half his age and then stalked and tormented her? Does she have a father? Brothers? Anyone who can point a weapon and sight in a scope? Seriously, this guy is toejam.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 03:07 PM
It's inconvenient to have him suddenly not be a Noble Hero of the Pro-Life movement, I guess. :rolleyes:

NJCardFan
06-09-2011, 03:19 PM
Upon further review, the guy isn't only a putz, he's an asshole to boot.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 03:22 PM
Upon further review, the guy isn't only a putz, he's an asshole to boot.

I think you changed your post by about 180 degrees - am I right? :confused:

NJCardFan
06-09-2011, 03:24 PM
Relax, the guy is a dick.

NJCardFan
06-09-2011, 03:24 PM
I think you changed your post by about 180 degrees - am I right? :confused:

Pretty much and I'm man enough to admit I was wrong at least when it came to this guy but my original point about father's rights stands. Or should stand.

linda22003
06-09-2011, 03:28 PM
Pretty much and I'm man enough to admit I was wrong at least when it came to this guy but my original point about father's rights stands. Or should stand.

I will agree insofar that it would be nice if two people knew each other well enough to be on the same page with what they would do in the event of pregnancy, before they start one together. But when considering fathers' "rights", would you want to even inadvertently create a legal situation where a pantload like this guy could enforce his will on a girl half his age? I would not.