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CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 08:52 PM
Was Reagan the only President in the 20th century who truly loved America and wasn't a Hippie/terrorist/ communist?

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:00 PM
You should really stop posting this asinine crap.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 09:01 PM
You should really stop posting this asinine crap.

Stop repudiating the entire 20th century first.
Liberals and Conservatives share common soil, nothing more.

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:05 PM
Stop repudiating the entire 20th century first.
Liberals and Conservatives share common soil, nothing more.

I'm sick of your "caught in the middle" schtick.

You're a moonbat, and you're about due for a vacation.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 09:08 PM
I'm sick of your "caught in the middle" schtick.

You're a moonbat, and you're about due for a vacation.

1890 forever!
Every President except Coolidge and Reagan hated America and were akin to Hitler.
I'm a good Tea Partier now!
EVERY REGULATION WRITTEN SINCE 1901 MUST BE REPEALED! RID US OF THE FDA AND EPA AND EVERY PROTECTIVE AGENCY! THE CEO IS GOD AND HIS RIGHTS MUST NEVER BE INFRINGED.
IF YOU DON'T LOVE CORPORATIONS, YOU HATE AMERICA.

Rockntractor
06-17-2011, 09:13 PM
1890 forever!
Every President except Coolidge and Reagan hated America and were akin to Hitler.
I'm a good Tea Partier now!
EVERY REGULATION WRITTEN SINCE 1901 MUST BE REPEALED! RID US OF THE FDA AND EPA AND EVERY PROTECTIVE AGENCY! THE CEO IS GOD AND HIS RIGHTS MUST NEVER BE INFRINGED.
IF YOU DON'T LOVE CORPORATIONS, YOU HATE AMERICA.

Did you take too much ritalin this morning?:rolleyes:

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:17 PM
Did you take too much ritalin this morning?:rolleyes:

Really, I think he's gotten into his mommies stash.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 09:19 PM
No, I'm a good Tea Partier.
Business must prosper at any cost. A child has to work 18 hours a day? For Capitalism! An elderly person dies in the street with no savings? For Capitalism! Sweatshops, unregulated child labor, and unprocessed food are aspects of the American Dream materialized.
1890 was a great year, and we should never have moved from there.

Rockntractor
06-17-2011, 09:22 PM
No, I'm a good Tea Partier.
Business must prosper at any cost. A child has to work 18 hours a day? For Capitalism! An elderly person dies in the street with no savings? For Capitalism! Sweatshops, unregulated child labor, and unprocessed food are aspects of the American Dream materialized.
1890 was a great year, and we should never have moved from there.

Gooness sakes, the little feller is melting down!:eek:

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:28 PM
Gooness sakes, the little feller is melting down!:eek:

Yeah, shame really, I mean after the lies he told when he first got here, turns out he's just a liberal troll.

That, or else LSD is back in style these days.

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah, shame really, I mean after the lies he told when he first got here, turns out he's just a liberal troll.

That, or else LSD is back in style these days.

The fact that Conservatives:
-Want to gut or Get rid of every regulatory agency, even including the FDA
-Want to relax regulations to the point of non-existence.
-Want to gut or Get rid of every social safety net
-Want to get rid of public education in every form
-Are almost entirely against gay rights
-Feel that this is a "Christian nation", and not simply in terms of demographics
-Feel that nearly every one who disagrees with them is a Socialist or Communist
-Believe Liberals are allied with Jihadist Muslims
-Believe the sitting President, along with almost every President of the 20th century, seeks and sought to harm America intentionally.

Amongst other things, has opened my eyes.

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:40 PM
The fact that Conservatives:
-Want to gut or Get rid of every regulatory agency, even including the FDA
-Want to relax regulations to the point of non-existence.
-Want to gut or Get rid of every social safety net
-Want to get rid of public education in every form
-Are almost entirely against gay rights
-Feel that this is a "Christian nation", and not simply in terms of demographics
-Feel that nearly every one who disagrees with them is a Socialist or Communist
-Believe Liberals are allied with Jihadist Muslims
-Believe the sitting President, along with almost every President of the 20th century, seeks and sought to harm America intentionally.

Amongst other things, has opened my eyes.

I think you're posting at the wrong board.

DU is <<<<<< that way.

I suggest you join, you're not going to be here much longer.

Rockntractor
06-17-2011, 09:41 PM
The fact that Conservatives:
-Want to gut or Get rid of every regulatory agency, even including the FDA
-Want to relax regulations to the point of non-existence.
-Want to gut or Get rid of every social safety net
-Want to get rid of public education in every form
-Are almost entirely against gay rights
-Feel that this is a "Christian nation", and not simply in terms of demographics
-Feel that nearly every one who disagrees with them is a Socialist or Communist
-Believe Liberals are allied with Jihadist Muslims
-Believe the sitting President, along with almost every President of the 20th century, seeks and sought to harm America intentionally.

Amongst other things, has opened my eyes.

Damn you found us out, oh well!:confused:

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:49 PM
This is FAR more interesting than anything CITM ever has to say...

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FW/odette-yustman-pics-0109-lg.jpg

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 09:50 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/Ruddy/glenn-beck-theodore-roosevelt/2010/05/03/id/357608

It is remarkable that Theodore Roosevelt (TR to his friends), who has been beloved as an iconic patriot and president, would become a controversial figure today.

This unusual development is largely due to the rise of Glenn Beck.

Glenn has been right on many issues and his views are resonating with Main Street.

But he is wrong on one big issue: Theodore Roosevelt is not, as he claims, the root cause of President Obama’s intrusive, “big government” policies.

It is no accident that TR’s face is chiseled into Mount Rushmore along with those of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, as he is rightly regarded by historians as one of the greatest presidents in American history.

He was raised to that height in the national consciousness by the weight of important achievements that significantly advanced the interests of the United States.

Strong in this belief, I have found Glenn Beck’s criticism of TR surprising.

At his CPAC speech this past February, Glenn said that TR was largely responsible for the “progressive” encroachments we are seeing today. Elsewhere, he has described TR as a “weird progressive,” and said that TR started the idea that the United States should not be a sovereign nation.

A few words of disclosure here: I am an ardent Theodore Roosevelt devotee and have been a longtime member of the Theodore Roosevelt Association (the membership roster has me listed after another TRA member, Karl Rove).

And my brother, Daniel Ruddy, a historian, is the author of a new book called “Theodore Roosevelt’s History of the United States” (published by Harper Collins). It draws upon TR’s own words to construct a unique history of the United States based on Roosevelt’s colorful insights and provocative views.

Editor's Note: Get Daniel Ruddy's new book. Go here now.

After reading it, I was awed. I was glad to see my high opinion of the book confirmed by the high praise my brother has already received from historians, including Pulitzer Prize-winning author Edmund Morris (who has studied TR’s life for 30 years and penned the book’s Foreword), as well as Douglas Brinkley and Thomas Fleming.

Dan’s book should put to rest the idea that TR was “weird” or had any extra-constitutional agenda.

Glenn Beck is correct in stating that Roosevelt was among America’s first progressives. To accurately portray TR today, we must widen our perspective and see him in the full context of his life and times.

Roosevelt embraced a progressive agenda, one that called for establishing a “progressive” income tax, giving women the right to vote, creating laws banning child labor, instituting anti-monopoly regulations, and other programs. Many of his positions are accepted by most reasonable Americans today.

The policies advocated by TR were not those of some social engineer who wanted to remake the United States based on a Saul Alinsky radical model.

Remember that TR’s generation was dominated by ruthless “robber barons” who did not hesitate to use devious means to eliminate competition.

While TR wanted sensible reform, he was no socialist. In an excerpt from my brother’s book, TR said: “To say that the thriftless, the lazy, the vicious, the incapable, ought to have the reward given to those who are farsighted, capable, and upright, is to say what is not true and cannot be true. Let us try to level up, but let us beware the evil of leveling down.”

It is difficult to imagine Barack Obama uttering such sentiments.

Like all great statesmen in the history of our republic, TR listened to the American people.

His hero was the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln. Roosevelt was deeply impressed with Lincoln’s political sagacity, noting that, “Lincoln stood with the radicals to abolish slavery and with the conservatives to save the Union, and he was right in both cases.”

And that is what Theodore Roosevelt always tried to do, to act according to the practical needs of the occasion, to make America strong and No. 1 on the world stage.

BadCat
06-17-2011, 09:58 PM
ok, i give.

what drugs are you on?

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 10:01 PM
ok, i give.

what drugs are you on?

http://mediamatters.org/research/201009070031

Before you damn the content because of the source, read the piece.

Rockntractor
06-17-2011, 10:02 PM
It should be about time for him to be off to summer camp.

BadCat
06-17-2011, 10:02 PM
i wouldn't click on a link to mediamatters to save your life.
try again.

megimoo
06-17-2011, 10:04 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/Ruddy/glenn-beck-theodore-roosevelt/2010/05/03/id/357608

It is remarkable that Theodore Roosevelt (TR to his friends), who has been beloved as an iconic patriot and president, would become a controversial figure today.

This unusual development is largely due to the rise of Glenn Beck.

Glenn has been right on many issues and his views are resonating with Main Street.

But he is wrong on one big issue: Theodore Roosevelt is not, as he claims, the root cause of President Obama’s intrusive, “big government” policies.

It is no accident that TR’s face is chiseled into Mount Rushmore along with those of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, as he is rightly regarded by historians as one of the greatest presidents in American history.

He was raised to that height in the national consciousness by the weight of important achievements that significantly advanced the interests of the United States.

Strong in this belief, I have found Glenn Beck’s criticism of TR surprising.

At his CPAC speech this past February, Glenn said that TR was largely responsible for the “progressive” encroachments we are seeing today. Elsewhere, he has described TR as a “weird progressive,” and said that TR started the idea that the United States should not be a sovereign nation.

A few words of disclosure here: I am an ardent Theodore Roosevelt devotee and have been a longtime member of the Theodore Roosevelt Association (the membership roster has me listed after another TRA member, Karl Rove).

And my brother, Daniel Ruddy, a historian, is the author of a new book called “Theodore Roosevelt’s History of the United States” (published by Harper Collins). It draws upon TR’s own words to construct a unique history of the United States based on Roosevelt’s colorful insights and provocative views.

Editor's Note: Get Daniel Ruddy's new book. Go here now.

After reading it, I was awed. I was glad to see my high opinion of the book confirmed by the high praise my brother has already received from historians, including Pulitzer Prize-winning author Edmund Morris (who has studied TR’s life for 30 years and penned the book’s Foreword), as well as Douglas Brinkley and Thomas Fleming.

Dan’s book should put to rest the idea that TR was “weird” or had any extra-constitutional agenda.

Glenn Beck is correct in stating that Roosevelt was among America’s first progressives. To accurately portray TR today, we must widen our perspective and see him in the full context of his life and times.

Roosevelt embraced a progressive agenda, one that called for establishing a “progressive” income tax, giving women the right to vote, creating laws banning child labor, instituting anti-monopoly regulations, and other programs. Many of his positions are accepted by most reasonable Americans today.

The policies advocated by TR were not those of some social engineer who wanted to remake the United States based on a Saul Alinsky radical model.

Remember that TR’s generation was dominated by ruthless “robber barons” who did not hesitate to use devious means to eliminate competition.

While TR wanted sensible reform, he was no socialist. In an excerpt from my brother’s book, TR said: “To say that the thriftless, the lazy, the vicious, the incapable, ought to have the reward given to those who are farsighted, capable, and upright, is to say what is not true and cannot be true. Let us try to level up, but let us beware the evil of leveling down.”

It is difficult to imagine Barack Obama uttering such sentiments.

Like all great statesmen in the history of our republic, TR listened to the American people.

His hero was the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln. Roosevelt was deeply impressed with Lincoln’s political sagacity, noting that, “Lincoln stood with the radicals to abolish slavery and with the conservatives to save the Union, and he was right in both cases.”

And that is what Theodore Roosevelt always tried to do, to act according to the practical needs of the occasion, to make America strong and No. 1 on the world stage.
Yup...Definetely a 'Frothing at the Mouth ' troll !

CaughtintheMiddle1990
06-17-2011, 10:06 PM
i wouldn't click on a link to mediamatters to save your life.
try again.

Of course you wouldn't.
So, deny what you believe in publicly and hoodwink the American people. Gophers are good at that.

Rockntractor
06-17-2011, 10:06 PM
i wouldn't click on a link to mediamatters to save your life.
try again.

I say we just go with the Onion!
http://www.theonion.com/section/politics/

BadCat
06-17-2011, 10:11 PM
Of course you wouldn't.
So, deny what you believe in publicly and hoodwink the American people. Gophers are good at that.

Well, this gopher will publicly say he just gave you a timeout.

Enjoy your vacation, moonbat.

txradioguy
06-18-2011, 02:20 AM
Stop repudiating the entire 20th century first.
Liberals and Conservatives share common soil, nothing more.

Prove it.

txradioguy
06-18-2011, 02:22 AM
Of course you wouldn't.
So, deny what you believe in publicly and hoodwink the American people. Gophers are good at that.

Speaking of "hoodwink"...so much for your disguise of trying to understand Conservatism.

You're just another typical Libtard troll who figured out a clever way to last here longer than most before being banned.

MrsSmith
06-18-2011, 08:23 AM
Common sense is really hard on liberals, isn't it?


Want to gut or Get rid of every regulatory agency, even including the FDA

Even? We just ran into yet another moronic regulation from the FDA. We have some scopes that can be cleaned several different ways, along with many that can only be run through a Steris unit. Since the manufacturer of the "several-different-ways" scope specifically states that processing with a Steris unit is acceptable, we've always run all our scopes the same way. Now the FDA has decided that a scope that can be autoclaved, must be autoclaved.

So, now we get to spend multiple man-hours training staff to clean scopes 2 different ways, we get to make sure every one of them understands which scope is which (and I can guarantee we'll have a few of the "other" scopes end up melted), we have to set up procedures to get scopes moved back and forth as needed, and policies for several departments will have to be re-written. It's going to cost most hospitals quite a bit of money, on top of all the money we must spend to meet asinine government regulations that in no way make healthcare safer or more reasonable.

The same holds true for every government agency. A huge percentage of their regulations do no good whatsoever...except they make some pencil-pusher (or should I say, keyboard commando) look like he or she is actually doing something to earn those lavish salaries.

Just as our President has no clue what life is like for normal people, or what it's like to hold a normal job, or how to run an actual business, way too much of our government has no clue how to do the jobs they regulate.

The only good thing about watching liberals online is that we start to see how many of them have no clue how to keep a job, do a job, or think.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-18-2011, 09:36 AM
The fact that Conservatives:
-Want to gut or Get rid of every regulatory agency, even including the FDA
-Want to relax regulations to the point of non-existence.
-Want to gut or Get rid of every social safety net
-Want to get rid of public education in every form
-Are almost entirely against gay rights
-Feel that this is a "Christian nation", and not simply in terms of demographics
-Feel that nearly every one who disagrees with them is a Socialist or Communist
-Believe Liberals are allied with Jihadist Muslims
-Believe the sitting President, along with almost every President of the 20th century, seeks and sought to harm America intentionally.

Amongst other things, has opened my eyes.


Sorry but that does not describe anyone I know.

Adam Wood
06-18-2011, 10:22 AM
This is FAR more interesting than anything CITM ever has to say...

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FW/odette-yustman-pics-0109-lg.jpgGood Lord, who is that? She has absolutely intoxicating eyes.

BadCat
06-18-2011, 01:13 PM
Good Lord, who is that? She has absolutely intoxicating eyes.

Odette Yustman...quite the babe, no?

fettpett
06-18-2011, 01:27 PM
Odette Yustman...quite the babe, no?

http://www.pinkhues.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/odette-yustman-kindergarten-cop.jpg

Articulate_Ape
06-18-2011, 02:37 PM
Odette Yustman...quite the babe, no?


Oh yes.

Odysseus
06-18-2011, 04:19 PM
Odette Yustman...quite the babe, no?

Oh, dear lord, yes.