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megimoo
06-22-2011, 09:09 PM
It, flies US AIRWAYS in women's underwear!

Six days before a college football player was arrested at San Francisco International Airport in a dispute that began when a US Airways employee asked him to pull up his sagging pants, a man who was wearing little but women's undergarments was allowed to fly the airline, a US Airways spokeswoman conceded Tuesday.

A photo of the scantily clad man was provided to The Chronicle by Jill Tarlow, a passenger on the June 9 flight from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to Phoenix. Tarlow said other passengers had complained to airline workers before the plane boarded, but that employees had ignored those complaints.


US Airways spokeswoman Valerie Wunder confirmed she'd received the photo before last week's incident in San Francisco and had spoken to Tarlow, but said employees had been correct not to ask the man to cover himself.

"We don't have a dress code policy," Wunder said. "Obviously, if their private parts are exposed, that's not appropriate. ... So if they're not exposing their private parts, they're allowed to fly."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/crime/detail?entry_id=91446
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'As Long As He's Not Harassing Anyone He's OK'...

AN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — Days before a San Francisco man was arrested on a US Airways flight over his saggy pants, the same airline allowed a man showing much more skin to fly.

Jill Tarlow, who was on the June 9th flight from Fort Lauderdale to Phoenix, told CBS 5 the man wore a woman’s bathing suit, thigh high stockings and high heels.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/21/scantily-clad-man-flies-us-airways-before-sfo-saggy-pants-arrest/

NJCardFan
06-22-2011, 09:28 PM
Please do yourself a favor and do not look at the picture.

jendf
06-22-2011, 09:28 PM
Reason #14,596 why I choose alternative means of travel whenever possible.

Adam Wood
06-22-2011, 09:39 PM
It, flies US AIRWAYS in women's underwear!

Six days before a college football player was arrested at San Francisco International Airport in a dispute that began when a US Airways employee asked him to pull up his sagging pants, a man who was wearing little but women's undergarments was allowed to fly the airline, a US Airways spokeswoman conceded Tuesday.

A photo of the scantily clad man was provided to The Chronicle by Jill Tarlow, a passenger on the June 9 flight from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to Phoenix. Tarlow said other passengers had complained to airline workers before the plane boarded, but that employees had ignored those complaints.


US Airways spokeswoman Valerie Wunder confirmed she'd received the photo before last week's incident in San Francisco and had spoken to Tarlow, but said employees had been correct not to ask the man to cover himself.

"We don't have a dress code policy," Wunder said. "Obviously, if their private parts are exposed, that's not appropriate. ... So if they're not exposing their private parts, they're allowed to fly."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/crime/detail?entry_id=91446
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'As Long As He's Not Harassing Anyone He's OK'...

AN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — Days before a San Francisco man was arrested on a US Airways flight over his saggy pants, the same airline allowed a man showing much more skin to fly.

Jill Tarlow, who was on the June 9th flight from Fort Lauderdale to Phoenix, told CBS 5 the man wore a woman’s bathing suit, thigh high stockings and high heels.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/21/scantily-clad-man-flies-us-airways-before-sfo-saggy-pants-arrest/Valerie needs to read her own Contract of Carriage (http://www.usairways.com/pv_obj_cache/pv_obj_id_B48A1DBE7E31FC8C6C2AD8BA88C242D363C00200/filename/US_contract_of_carriage.pdf) (.pdf warning):


3.0 ACCEPTANCE OF CUSTOMERS
3.1 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
US Airways may refuse to transport, or remove from any flight, any passenger for the following reasons:
1. Compliance with any government regulation or with any government requisition of space or request for emergency transportation in connection with national defense, national security, or disasters (actual, threatened, or reported).
2. Whenever necessary or advisable by reason of weather or other conditions beyond its control (including, without limitation, acts of God, labor disturbances, strikes, civil commotion, embargoes, acts of terrorism, wars, hostilities, or disturbances), actual, threatened, or reported.
3. Refusal by a passenger to permit a search of person or property for explosives or for deadly or dangerous weapons, articles, or substances.
4. Refusal by a passenger to produce positive identification upon request.
5. Failure of a passenger traveling across any international boundary to possess all valid documents (passports, visas, certificates, etc.) required by the laws of the countries from, over, or into which the passenger will fly. We are not responsible for any failure or inability of a passenger to comply with government laws, regulations, orders, demands, and requirements which are subject to change without notice.
6. Any passenger who may pose a threat to the comfort and/or safety of other passengers or employees including (but not limited to) passengers who:

 Are over the age of five (5) and barefoot, or otherwise inappropriately clothed, unless required for medical reasons;
 Are less than one (1) day old;
 Are unescorted individuals under the age of five (5) years old;
 Are unaccompanied minors, ages five (5) through fourteen (14), and are traveling on a through or connecting flight;
 Are involved in a criminal act such as a bomb threat or hijacking attempt;
 Appear to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs
[....]

Customers complained. Obviously this fruitcake was a threat to the comfort of the passengers and clearly was inappropriately dressed. US Scareways blew it. Bigtime.

NJCardFan
06-23-2011, 01:03 AM
An easy question would be if they would allow a woman dressed the exact same way to board? The answer would most undoubtedly be no. Also, I'd like to hear Nova's explanation as to how this is acceptable behavior or normal behavior for that matter. I mean, if this dolt wore a sequins gown, it would be disturbing but not near as offensive as the Dr. Frankenfurter get up this loon wore. This man is obviously mentally disturbed in every way.

namvet
06-23-2011, 10:36 AM
http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/crime/2011/06/21/us_airways_3275x368.jpg

he's waitin' for his pat down

Novaheart
06-23-2011, 01:30 PM
The problem is that airplanes are "common carriers" and they need a hard and fast dress code. The easiest would be to require that all persons travelling must be wearing long pants from three inches below naval to ankle and a shirt with long sleeve which buttons to 6 inches below the throat hollow, or a similarly covering ankle length dress or caftan.

noonwitch
06-23-2011, 01:37 PM
Please do yourself a favor and do not look at the picture.



If fat people have to purchase the ticket of the seat next to them for the comfort of the other passengers, this guy should have to purchase all the tickets in his row, if not in the entire coach area (I assume he's not flying first class, or he would be wearing a cocktail dress).

NJCardFan
06-23-2011, 06:13 PM
The problem is that airplanes are "common carriers" and they need a hard and fast dress code. The easiest would be to require that all persons travelling must be wearing long pants from three inches below naval to ankle and a shirt with long sleeve which buttons to 6 inches below the throat hollow, or a similarly covering ankle length dress or caftan.
I'll ask again. Would USAirways have allowed a woman, wearing the exact same "ensemble" to board an aircraft? We;re not talking about hotpants and a halter top here, we're talking about lingerie. And this man is mentally disturbed, very disturbed.

Novaheart
06-23-2011, 10:06 PM
I'll ask again. Would USAirways have allowed a woman, wearing the exact same "ensemble" to board an aircraft? We;re not talking about hotpants and a halter top here, we're talking about lingerie. And this man is mentally disturbed, very disturbed.

I don't know. I think there was a woman who boarded with a bikini not too long ago. This TSA thing is spurring many comedians and protestors pulling stunts.

Odysseus
06-23-2011, 10:20 PM
If fat people have to purchase the ticket of the seat next to them for the comfort of the other passengers, this guy should have to purchase all the tickets in his row, if not in the entire coach area (I assume he's not flying first class, or he would be wearing a cocktail dress).

ROFLOL!!!

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 05:58 AM
I don't know. I think there was a woman who boarded with a bikini not too long ago. This TSA thing is spurring many comedians and protestors pulling stunts.
Link or it didn't happen. But, my link shows the opposite reaction.

Woman thrown off plane due to short skirt (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638479/ns/today-today_people/t/thrown-plane-outfit-deemed-too-skimpy/)

Adam Wood
06-24-2011, 10:13 AM
Link or it didn't happen. But, my link shows the opposite reaction.

Woman thrown off plane due to short skirt (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638479/ns/today-today_people/t/thrown-plane-outfit-deemed-too-skimpy/)I remember seeing her interviewed on TV. She did it in protest of the TSA x-ray and cop-a-feel initiatives. But, she wore a trenchcoat over the bikini, and I presume she wore it onto the plane. The point was to pass through security in pretty much the skimpiest thing she could get away with so that they didn't have any excuses to go feeling her up.

Odysseus
06-24-2011, 10:24 AM
I remember seeing her interviewed on TV. She did it in protest of the TSA x-ray and cop-a-feel initiatives. But, she wore a trenchcoat over the bikini, and I presume she wore it onto the plane. The point was to pass through security in pretty much the skimpiest thing she could get away with so that they didn't have any excuses to go feeling her up.

It wasn't a bikini, but a miniskirt and a tight top. She modeled the outfit on TV after the fact:

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/070907/070907_flyer_vmed_5a.grid-4x2.jpg

Sexual innuendo aside, I'd be a lot more comfortable riding next to her than the guy in lingerie. The only thing that he could have done to make himself more conspicuously spooky to other passengers would have been shouting "Allahu Akbar" and waving a spork at the flight attendants.

Adam Wood
06-24-2011, 11:04 AM
It wasn't a bikini, but a miniskirt and a tight top. She modeled the outfit on TV after the fact:

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/070907/070907_flyer_vmed_5a.grid-4x2.jpg

Sexual innuendo aside, I'd be a lot more comfortable riding next to her than the guy in lingerie. The only thing that he could have done to make himself more conspicuously spooky to other passengers would have been shouting "Allahu Akbar" and waving a spork at the flight attendants.Different woman. I was talking about the bikini woman that Nova referred to and NJ said "link or it didn't happen." This was much more recent, probably less than six months ago.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 11:09 AM
Link or it didn't happen. But, my link shows the opposite reaction.



I may be getting older, but my memory seems to be holding up.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/traffic/transit/Traffic-LAX-holiday-travel-thanksgiving-110384004.html?dr

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 11:30 AM
I may be getting older, but my memory seems to be holding up.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/traffic/transit/Traffic-LAX-holiday-travel-thanksgiving-110384004.html?dr
Wow, you are amazing. Um, epic fail anyone? #1, I may be getting up in years but I didn't see anywhere in the story or in the video where she was allowed to board the aircraft wearing just the bikini so if you could kindly point that out. #2, it's safe to assume that after she cleared security, she wore the long coat afterward so thank you for basically proving my point. Your attempt here falls on it's face.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 12:34 PM
Wow, you are amazing. Um, epic fail anyone? #1, I may be getting up in years but I didn't see anywhere in the story or in the video where she was allowed to board the aircraft wearing just the bikini so if you could kindly point that out. #2, it's safe to assume that after she cleared security, she wore the long coat afterward so thank you for basically proving my point. Your attempt here falls on it's face.


How old are you today? First you say "Link or it didn't happen" which I have never seen posted by anyone over 18 and now this. Just because it's your birthday, I'll go look to see if she wore it on the plane.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 12:41 PM
It wasn't a bikini, but a miniskirt and a tight top. She modeled the outfit on TV after the fact:

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/070907/070907_flyer_vmed_5a.grid-4x2.jpg



If I saw that woman on the street, I would think she was a hooker.

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 12:43 PM
How old are you today? First you say "Link or it didn't happen" which I have never seen posted by anyone over 18 and now this. Just because it's your birthday, I'll go look to see if she wore it on the plane.

You can look all you want because the story you linked didn't say either way whether or not she boarded the aircraft wearing just the bikini. You're trying to equate the one story with this and quite frankly, you fail. Like I said, it doesn't say anywhere what she wore on the plane, just what she wore going through security. Maybe she had clothes in her carryon. Maybe she wore the overcoat? We simply do not know. So keep looking and keep trying to justify this man's action only because of his sexual orientation.

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 12:45 PM
If I saw that woman on the street, I would think she was a hooker.

Then you'd think that a good many young women are hookers because I see college aged girls dressed like this all the time. Again, you're trying to skew the argument. Nice try though. Oh, and I've seen some hookers in my day and none either looked this good or dressed this way. You've obviously never been to Vegas.

lacarnut
06-24-2011, 12:51 PM
You can look all you want because the story you linked didn't say either way whether or not she boarded the aircraft wearing just the bikini. You're trying to equate the one story with this and quite frankly, you fail. Like I said, it doesn't say anywhere what she wore on the plane, just what she wore going through security. Maybe she had clothes in her carryon. Maybe she wore the overcoat? We simply do not know. So keep looking and keep trying to justify this man's action only because of his sexual orientation.

He/it does look like Nova's type.:eek:

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Then you'd think that a good many young women are hookers because I see college aged girls dressed like this all the time. Again, you're trying to skew the argument. Nice try though. Oh, and I've seen some hookers in my day and none either looked this good or dressed this way. You've obviously never been to Vegas.

I didn't say she looked like an expensive hooker. And for what it's worth she is a Hooters waitress. The article about her also says that she wasn't wearing the skirt that low when she boarded the plane.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 01:24 PM
You can look all you want because the story you linked didn't say either way whether or not she boarded the aircraft wearing just the bikini. You're trying to equate the one story with this and quite frankly, you fail. Like I said, it doesn't say anywhere what she wore on the plane, just what she wore going through security. Maybe she had clothes in her carryon. Maybe she wore the overcoat? We simply do not know. So keep looking and keep trying to justify this man's action only because of his sexual orientation.

Why must you be so obstreperous? I didn't say I was trying to justify this man's action, I merely said that I thought I recalled a woman in a bikini on a plane. You are correct, she might have dressed somewhere along the way. She might have worn that heavy wool overcoat throughout the flight. She might have had a really long tshirt in her pocket, that she belted with an adorable gold chain. She might have been Marlo Thomas in disguise. She might have been an illegal alien. She might have been an angel sent to earth to test the patience of idiots.

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 04:13 PM
Why must you be so obstreperous? I didn't say I was trying to justify this man's action, I merely said that I thought I recalled a woman in a bikini on a plane. You are correct, she might have dressed somewhere along the way. She might have worn that heavy wool overcoat throughout the flight. She might have had a really long tshirt in her pocket, that she belted with an adorable gold chain. She might have been Marlo Thomas in disguise. She might have been an illegal alien. She might have been an angel sent to earth to test the patience of idiots.

Then we agree that the 2 stories vastly differ. Because the question is, would an airline allow a woman dressed in the exact same way that nut did and there is no equal frame of reference. As for the big word you probably thought I didn't know, I'll stop being obstreperous when you stop being intellectually mendacious.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 04:18 PM
Then we agree that the 2 stories vastly differ. Because the question is, would an airline allow a woman dressed in the exact same way that nut did and there is no equal frame of reference. As for the big word you probably thought I didn't know, I'll stop being obstreperous when you stop being intellectually mendacious.

I sent her an email asking her if she rode on the plane in just the bikini. She has not responded yet.

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 04:24 PM
I sent her an email asking her if she rode on the plane in just the bikini. She has not responded yet.

Oh for the love of...let me know how you make out. Because if she did and no one complained, I'd be shocked.

Novaheart
06-24-2011, 04:36 PM
Oh for the love of...let me know how you make out. Because if she did and no one complained, I'd be shocked.

I wouldn't really be surprised if no one complained about an attractive young woman wearing a bikini on an airplane, generally we find the stunts of attractive people more amusing than offensive. Some old troll in women's undies isn't enjoyable for anyone.

Odysseus
06-24-2011, 05:18 PM
Given that she walked through the security station without raising any fuss and then put her coat back on, I think that it's safe to say that she was able to get on the plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHd3i7ZA2uU

If I saw that woman on the street, I would think she was a hooker.
Depends on what street. If she were dressed like that and shopping on Rodeo Drive or Fifth Avenue, it's unlikely that you'd raise an eyebrow. The outfit doesn't necessary say "hooker" so much as young woman with the body to carry off the outfit.

I wouldn't really be surprised if no one complained about an attractive young woman wearing a bikini on an airplane, generally we find the stunts of attractive people more amusing than offensive. Some old troll in women's undies isn't enjoyable for anyone.

You said it, I didn't.

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 05:49 PM
Given that she walked through the security station without raising any fuss and then put her coat back on, I think that it's safe to say that she was able to get on the plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHd3i7ZA2uU

Depends on what street. If she were dressed like that and shopping on Rodeo Drive or Fifth Avenue, it's unlikely that you'd raise an eyebrow. The outfit doesn't necessary say "hooker" so much as young woman with the body to carry off the outfit.


You said it, I didn't.

The question is, did she sit in her seat wearing the bikini and only the bikini or was she wearing the coat over it?

Odysseus
06-24-2011, 06:31 PM
The question is, did she sit in her seat wearing the bikini and only the bikini or was she wearing the coat over it?

Most likely not. She doffed the coat in order to make the point to the TSA gropers, and put it on again when she was done with the security checkpoint, so I doubt that she took it off again for the flight, unless she was trying to get an upgrade to First Class. :D

NJCardFan
06-24-2011, 06:37 PM
Most likely not. She doffed the coat in order to make the point to the TSA gropers, and put it on again when she was done with the security checkpoint, so I doubt that she took it off again for the flight, unless she was trying to get an upgrade to First Class. :D

If this is so, then, hence my point. We already know of at least 1 case where a passenger was booted off a flight because someone thought her outfit was too risque. And since we don't know how this other woman boarded the flight, we can only assume she did wearing the coat.