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jnkbortka
07-14-2011, 06:04 PM
we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts

Rockntractor
07-14-2011, 06:07 PM
we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts

I want no socialism, little, big or bigger, none, nano, zero, zilch!

jnkbortka
07-14-2011, 06:39 PM
i think by county healthcare would be the best way to work it out... if they did do this

Rockntractor
07-14-2011, 06:41 PM
i think by county healthcare would be the best way to work it out... if they did do this

I don't want it in a town, in a state would make me frown.
I don't want it in my county, in my village or my township, in my sector or my hectare. I do not want your health care son you can have it just for one!

jnkbortka
07-14-2011, 06:46 PM
haha i think it could work as long as the feds dont get involved.... but we can do just as good without it

bmovies
07-15-2011, 04:40 PM
we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts

Still wouldnt work.

Hawaii tried this and then had to repeal it after only 7 months.

Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html

Constitutionally Speaking
07-15-2011, 06:30 PM
Tax credits should be ELIMINATED for employer paid health care and instead tax credits given for employer paid "vouchers" than can be used by the individual to purchase their own health care plan. Make insurance portable and allow people to keep the money they save.

lacarnut
07-15-2011, 06:36 PM
Still wouldnt work.

Hawaii tried this and then had to repeal it after only 7 months.

Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html

Not working in MA either and has caused huge budget problems. At the time Romney-care was passed 93% had health care. Therefore, only 7% were not covered. A one size fits all screwed it up royally for the 93% by increasing costs.

Novaheart
07-15-2011, 07:10 PM
we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts

A federal healthcare system, despite the endless lies from the right, is not even proposed. National Single Payer is not a national health service, it's a non-profit universal system for the payments for healthcare, fpaid through taxes where we now pay premiums to private insurers and at the same time pay taxes towards Medicare, Medicaid, government operated hospitals etc...

As for whether it could operate at the state level, it wouldn't make sense because our political divisions are such that many metropolitan areas span two or more states, and states would undoubtedly try to make it more expensive to the patient to cross state lines for treatment.

However, single payer in Canada did start in one province.

bmovies
07-16-2011, 07:14 AM
A federal healthcare system, despite the endless lies from the right, is not even proposed.

Yes it is. Its being proposed all over the place.


National Single Payer is not a national health service

Its a big part of it:

Single-payer health care is the financing of health care from a single insurance pool, which in all existing and proposed cases are government run. Under a single-payer system, universal health care for an entire population is financed from a pool to which many parties--employees, employers, the state--have contributed. Single-payer is a market in which one buyer faces many sellers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care

Its a system thats more than halfway on the road towards a national health care service. And if it has to be legislated into existence by the government and if government is partly (or fully) paying for it, then that alone should set off the warning bells of alarm.

The Myths of Single-Payer Health Care

http://freemarketcure.com/singlepayermyths.php

AmPat
07-16-2011, 08:15 AM
The lies are all from the left Nova. The truth as usual is from the right and the historical and present PROOF is all around you. Health care and health insurance are intricately intertwined now and average Americans cannot differentiate between the two. If we don't unravel the National Socialism imposed by O Blah Blah and his minions (PeeLousy, stinky Harry, et al, we are doomed to accelerate our slide down the Socialist path toward full on communism. Welcome to the end state of liberalism.:cool::mad:

Starbuck
07-16-2011, 08:45 AM
As far as I have seen, universal anything causes overuse and laziness.
I know people on welfare - several of them, in fact. And they go to the doctor 2 or 3 visits to my 1. "Doesn't cost anything", they say.

I take care not to make them uncomfortable talking about it because I would rather understand their feelings than impress my thoughts on them. After all, I reason, I am not going to be able to change them. Might as well make the journey inside their thought process.

And a sorry, limited, process it is. There are poor people and then there are broke people. Unfortunately, these two very different groups may have the same outward appearance. The broke people will probably find a way out of their position. The poor people never will.

We have to provide assistance to the poor people and opportunity and incentive to the broke people. The problem is: How do we tell them apart?:confused: