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SarasotaRepub
07-24-2011, 08:36 AM
:rolleyes:

Mr. Original here... (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1562074)





MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-24-11 06:50 AM
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Conservatism is a mental illness Ordnary sane and rational people do not act at all like the McVeighs, Rudolphs and Breiviks of the world.



Ok there...





MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-24-11 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #5 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1562074#1562203)

8. I'm going going to take every opportunity that I can to call wingers every single name in the book These people are crazy and dangerous... In more ways than one.



Ya...that sounds sane. Moron.

txradioguy
07-24-2011, 11:06 AM
Ordnary sane and rational people do not act at all like the McVeighs, Rudolphs and Breiviks of the world.

Since when did any sane or rational Republican/Conservative support these two mass murderers?

AmPat
07-24-2011, 11:28 AM
Conservatism is a mental illness
But of course.
Conservatives want to take individual responsibility for choices and actions; PREPOSTEROUS!
Conservatives want to pay taxes for LEGITIMATE government enterprises, not for every feel good issue out there.
Conservatives like to live within their means, not spend themselves into bankruptcy.
Conservatives seek self improvement to improve their condition, not bitch about their sorry state and demand somebody else fix it or pay for it.
Conservatives know how to look at a problem, understand it, and make a logical plan to effectively deal with it; how ABSURD!
Conservatives object to government overreach by voting, not throwing a hissy fit, taking over Capitol buildings, trashing the grounds, cheating at the polls, bullying or generally acting like a childish or boorish peon.

Yep, this kind of Conservative mental illness is exactly what we need more of. Perhaps one of you liberal O Blah Blah-Reid-Peelousy minions can explain YOUR condition?:rolleyes:

Apache
07-24-2011, 01:27 PM
Zorra (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-24-11 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #3
46. Horseshit.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 12:29 PM by Zorra
Tell that to the parents of the kids that got massacred in Norway. Or the relatives of the people killed in the Oklahoma City Bombing and 9/11. Or the descendants of Holocaust victims. Or the descendants of Stalin's purges. Etc, ad infinitum.

Conservatives have repeatedly and frequently engaged in predatory repression of populations and caused suffering and death on a mass scale throughout the entire history of the human race.

Liberals are always the ones that stop, or attempt to stop, the destructive madness of conservatives.

If you want to call this undeniable fact moral relativism, or say that calling conservatives on their actions (which appears to be the new Third Way meme) stigmatization, so be it. Is repressing and causing suffering and death to innocent people perfectly acceptable because it is part of the grand yin/yang design of the universe?

Demeaning conservative ideology and actions does not automatically demean liberal ideology and action, unless you either have absolutely no socially acceptable ethics or morals as defined by most democratic and democratic socialist societies, or have extreme perception challenges.

Our laws, our democratic government was, for all practical purposes, originally instituted by liberals to protect innocent people from the predations and control of conservatives, and yet allowed conservatives the maximum freedom to exercise their beliefs and opinions to the limit of where liberty can constrain them from hurting others.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...

Many of us here have spent our entire adult lives struggling to prevent conservatives from destroying our democracy, instituting repressive authoritarian government and killing and maiming innocent people.

When someone has the fucking audacity to tell us that calling a predator a predator is demeaning to the poor thing, and therefore demeaning to us, it just ain't gonna fly here.
This one is waaaayyyyy out there:eek:

Dan D. Doty
07-24-2011, 02:36 PM
First things, first; Zorra, The United States is not a Democracy, its a Republic.

What we have here is something as old as Mankind itself,

The Denizens of DU are trying to come with a reason to hurt people again, and maybe in a big way this time.

People have done it with Jews and Mormons, rationizing excuses to harm all those who do not think as they do. Their Narcisstic world views keeps telling them that " If I hate them, they must hate me" but now its becoming more " If I want to destroy them, then they must want to destroy me ... so I better destroy them first."

This line of thought could turn out to be very dangerous ... heed my advice below,

There is a dark storm that is almost upon us.

NJCardFan
07-24-2011, 04:47 PM
MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-24-11 06:50 AM
Original message

Conservatism is a mental illness Ordnary sane and rational people do not act at all like the McVeighs, Rudolphs and Breiviks of the world.
And ordinary, sane people don't act like:

Jared Laughner
Seung Hui Cho
James Jay Lee
Andrew Joseph Stack III
Eric Harris
Dylan Klebold

Shall I continue or is the point made?


Or the descendants of Stalin's purges. Etc, ad infinitum.

Conservatives have repeatedly and frequently engaged in predatory repression of populations and caused suffering and death on a mass scale throughout the entire history of the human race.
Wait, Stalin was a conservative? :rotfl:

swirling_vortex
07-24-2011, 08:12 PM
Conservatives have repeatedly and frequently engaged in predatory repression of populations and caused suffering and death on a mass scale throughout the entire history of the human race.
Right, because it wasn't the liberals who made death threats to Bush. It wasn't the left-wing anarchists and socialists who continue to advocate violence to eliminate "capitalist oppression". It wasn't the series of communist states that arose from the Soviet Union that ended up killing millions in the name of fairness and egalitarianism. It wasn't the monarchists who created tyranny in the American colonies. It wasn't the Fascists in Italy and Germany that ended up creating some of the most oppressive governments in the 20th Century. Yup, those dang small-government conservatives were all at fault.

Our laws, our democratic government was, for all practical purposes, originally instituted by liberals to protect innocent people from the predations and control of conservatives, and yet allowed conservatives the maximum freedom to exercise their beliefs and opinions to the limit of where liberty can constrain them from hurting others.

Actually, our republican form of government (Note: Republic, not Democracy) was derived from the ideals of John Locke and the classic liberal tradition. Modern liberalism has nothing to do with this and and pretty much takes a stand against Locke (i.e. rights come from government instead of natural law).

movie buff
07-26-2011, 10:17 AM
And ordinary, sane people don't act like:

Jared Laughner
Seung Hui Cho
James Jay Lee
Andrew Joseph Stack III
Eric Harris
Dylan Klebold

Shall I continue or is the point made?


Wait, Stalin was a conservative? :rotfl:

On the one hand, you beat me to it.
On the other hand, you missed two:
1. Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber (Far-left ecoterrorist, closely connected to the ultra- liberal terrorist group Earth First, which the DUmmies and similar leftists portray as heroes).
2. Matthew Murray, aka the 2007 Denver church shooter (When word about his shooting spree, and especially about the fact that he was gay, reached the DUmmies' ears, they portrayed him as a noble hero standing up to oppression, portrayed the churchgoers he murdered and injured as a bunch of evil fundies who all got exactly what they deserved, and portrayed the brave security guard who risked her own life to bring Murray's rampage to an end as a bloodthirsty lunatic).

This leads to a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals; As txradioguy notes, when a far- right extremist goes nuts and kills or threatens people, conservative citizens like us immediately and unhesitatingly condemn his actions and desire to see him receive the just criminal sentence that the law requires.
In contrast, when a far- left extremist goes nuts and kills or threatens people, liberals like the DUmmies rely on one of the following strategies (Which one they use depends on the circumstances):
1. Attempt to portray the psycho as a conservative in spite of how much evidence to the contrary there may be (i.e. Jared Loughner, Joseph Stack), then hold him up as an example of how all conservatives in the country are exactly like him and must thus be silenced by any means necessary.
2. Attempt to portray the psycho as a plant/ agent provocateur used by Republicans and/ or the cops as part of a conspiracy to make liberals look bad (Especially when done in the middle of a liberal protest campaign against some person or industry they have demonized).
3. Attempt to portray the psycho as a harmless eccentric who posed no threat to anybody in spite of how much evidence to the contrary there may be (i.e. a liberal troll I occasionally sparred with on another site tried using this argument for James Jay Lee).
4. Attempt to portray the psycho as an innocent victim of circumstance framed by evil, racist cops.
5. Attempt to portray the psycho as a brave and noble hero "Sticking it to the Man," "Fighting the System," or "Standing up for equality and social justice." Portray his victims as monsters who all got what they deserved, portray the cops as evil oppressors who violated the psycho's rights in some way by stopping him, and use the occasion to try and promote whatever cause motivated the psycho.

Bottom Line: We acknowledge and condemn the actions of the loonies on our side; The left does not.

AmPat
07-26-2011, 02:28 PM
Bottom Line: We acknowledge and condemn the actions of the loonies on our side; The left does not.
That's because a major fundamental difference between Conservatives and the pooh flingers from the left is that Conservatives don't have an aversion to personal responsibility. Libertards blame everybody and every thing but themselves for their sorry state.