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bijou
07-28-2011, 09:02 AM
Fox News: At least one U.S. military serviceman arrested for allegedly planning another attack on the Fort Hood Military base in Texas.


http://twitter.com/#!/SkyNewsBreak

No story on the Fox site yet.

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At least one US serviceman has been arrested for allegedly planning another attack on Fort Hood military base in Texas.

According to Fox News, one Awol soldier is in the custody of the Killeen Police Department near Fort Hood.

He was not reportedly captured on base.

Two other US soldiers were also reportedly arrested earlier today, found to be in possession of weapons and explosives.

Fox News has obtained the names of three possible suspects, but is currently withholding that information. ...

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16039245

Zathras
07-28-2011, 12:02 PM
At least one U.S. military serviceman has been arrested after raising concerns over another alleged plot to attack Fort Hood, Fox News has learned exclusively.

Pvt. Nasser Jason Abdo, an AWOL soldier from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, was arrested by the Killeen Police Department near Fort Hood and remains in custody there. Authorities, however, will not say if Abdo is the one who raised security concerns.

Abdo was found with weapons and explosives at the time of his arrest, a senior Army source confirms to Fox News. He was arrested at around 2 p.m. Wednesday after someone called authorities to report a suspicious individual.

Eric Vasys, a spokesman with the FBI's San Antonio Office, said authorities found firearms and bomb making components, which he described as smokeless gun powder, inside Abdo's motel room.

Bob Jenkins, a Fort Campbell spokesman, told Fox News that Abdo was also being investigated for child pornography found on his government computer.

Abdo went AWOL on July 4. On the eve of his first deployment to Afghanistan -- after only one year in the Army -- Abdo applied for conscientious objector status. It was denied by his superiors at Ft. Campbell but later overturned by the Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Army review board.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28/exclusive-us-military-serviceman-arrested-in-second-alleged-attack-on-ft-hood/#ixzz1TPs21qaK

ROPMA

linda22003
07-28-2011, 12:27 PM
Jason? His middle name is Jason?

noonwitch
07-28-2011, 12:38 PM
Jason? His middle name is Jason?



That's what I thought when I read the article.

He was also being investigated for kiddie porn.

lacarnut
07-28-2011, 12:53 PM
Both should lined up and shot as traitors.

AmPat
07-28-2011, 04:40 PM
I did not read the article but I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and suggest they look for Muhammed (PBOH) in his name.:cool::popcorn:

Apocalypse
07-28-2011, 04:42 PM
Another link

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-plot-awol-us-serviceman-arrested/story?id=14179096


U.S. officials told ABC News an AWOL serviceman, identified by the FBI as a Private First Class Naser Jason Abdo, was arrested Wednesday after making a purchase at Guns Galore in Killeen, Texas, the same ammunition store where Maj. Nidal Hasan purchased the weapons he allegedly used to gun down 13 people and wound 32 others on Nov. 5, 2009.

Abdo, 21, allegedly told law enforcement he wanted to "get even" and was targeting Ft. Hood because of the previous attack there allegedly carried out by Hasan, according to law enforcement documents obtained by ABC News. He allegedly did not plan to attack the base itself, but instead planned to plant a bomb at a nearby restaurant popular with Ft. Hood personnel.



He was in the process of building two bombs and hoped to detonate both at the target location before using a pistol to shoot survivors, the documents say....




Abdo, reportedly of Palestinian descent, was raised by his Muslim father and non-denominational Christian mother in Texas. In 2010 he told ABC News he was Muslim and should not have to participate in what he called an "unjust war" in the Middle East.



"Any Muslim who knows his religion or maybe takes into account what his religion says can find out very clearly why he should not participate in the U.S. military," Abdo said then....


Abdo had filed for conscientious objector status, which had been approved by the Secretary of the Army, but his discharge was put on hold after Abdo was charged with having child pornography on his computer, an Army spokesperson told ABC News.


So he was pissed off his discharge was halted, and faced criminal prosecution, and decided to follow another attack there.

Odysseus
07-28-2011, 06:23 PM
Another link

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-plot-awol-us-serviceman-arrested/story?id=14179096



So he was pissed off his discharge was halted, and faced criminal prosecution, and decided to follow another attack there.

That may be part of it. Another part is that he's clearly been radicalized. He presented the same arguments as MAJ Nidal Hasan regarding Muslims and CO status, and by accepting his application, the Army validated his arguments. This was a huge mistake, as it puts those Muslims who want to serve in the Army and oppose Sharia under tremendous pressure to withdraw from the fight. They can be accused of apostasy and their families and communities will be closed off to them. It's a horrible precedent, and one that clearly wasn't thought out.

Molon Labe
07-28-2011, 08:04 PM
If they trusted commissioned officers and senior NCOs with carrying concealed while on post, no one would be concerned with another attack.

noworries
07-28-2011, 08:59 PM
I wonder how many idiots over at DU are trying to praise him for what he wanted to do. I am just glad they got him before he was able to carry out his plan.
I hope he likes the cold winters in Leavenworth because it sounds like he is going to be there a while.

Apocalypse
07-28-2011, 10:43 PM
If they trusted commissioned officers and senior NCOs with carrying concealed while on post, no one would be concerned with another attack.
I'm by no means knowledged on this, but wasn't Hasan a commissioned officer?

Rockntractor
07-28-2011, 10:52 PM
I'm by no means knowledged on this, but wasn't Hasan a commissioned officer?

The point is not to keep the gun out of the hands of a determined idiot, it is to arm others around the idiot so they don't commit a massacre.

Odysseus
07-28-2011, 11:06 PM
If they trusted commissioned officers and senior NCOs with carrying concealed while on post, no one would be concerned with another attack.
It would certainly cut down on the risk.

I'm by no means knowledged on this, but wasn't Hasan a commissioned officer?

He was. And the reason that he kept his commission was that the Army refused to acknowledge his increasingly bizarre and radical behavior. The minute that he began corresponding with a jihadi cleric, his clearance should have been pulled and the Army should have initiated a security investigation to determine whether he posed a threat. After SGT Akbar, this should have been a no-brainer.

txradioguy
07-29-2011, 04:43 AM
Another link

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-plot-awol-us-serviceman-arrested/story?id=14179096



So he was pissed off his discharge was halted, and faced criminal prosecution, and decided to follow another attack there.

No he was a radicalized sleeper from the start. The radicals are continuing to attempt what they successfully do in Afghanistan on a regular basis...infiltrate rouge/sleeper soldiers into the force and when the time is right...*boom*

Molon Labe
07-29-2011, 01:26 PM
I'm by no means knowledged on this, but wasn't Hasan a commissioned officer?

right..but technically the weapon he was carrying was unauthorized.

Only the law abiding follow post gun regulations. The officer commission carries great responsibility. You would think that would translate into something as simple as trusting one with a weapon. If you can't trust someone with a weapon then what does that say about the senior leadership?

That used to be the case a long long long time ago.

Odysseus
07-29-2011, 05:30 PM
right..but technically the weapon he was carrying was unauthorized.

Only the law abiding follow post gun regulations. The officer commission carries great responsibility. You would think that would translate into something as simple as trusting one with a weapon. If you can't trust someone with a weapon then what does that say about the senior leadership?
That they've read my evaluation reports? :D

Seriously, they need to allow anyone with unrestricted arms room access to carry, at a minimum. Ideally, any officer or NCO with a secret or higher clearance also ought to be considered safe with a firearm (or at least trustworthy, I've seen some loggies that I wouldn't trust with a water pistol). At the company level, anyone with a green tab ought to be authorized to carry, and at BN or higher, the unit security manager, S2/G2, S3/G3, and the security managers should be authorized to carry in the headquarters.

Sonnabend
08-03-2011, 08:16 PM
Colonel, I don't get this. After Hassan, wouldnt it now be SOP to have armed sentries on post? Given what happened, why aren't there armed guards in these public areas?

txradioguy
08-04-2011, 07:35 AM
Colonel, I don't get this. After Hassan, wouldnt it now be SOP to have armed sentries on post? Given what happened, why aren't there armed guards in these public areas?

They have armed civilian guards at the gates and the MP's patrol the streets within the confines of the post.

Odysseus
08-04-2011, 05:08 PM
Colonel, I don't get this. After Hassan, wouldnt it now be SOP to have armed sentries on post? Given what happened, why aren't there armed guards in these public areas?

There are. As TX said, there are gate guards and MPs who patrol, but FT Hood is like any good-sized town. A police car might get up to 80 MPH en route to an attack, but a bullet will get there a lot faster.

Frankly, what they ought to do is ensure that each headquarters down to company level has at least one weapon and some Force Protection ammunition available to each leader on the premises. Maybe the BN S1 or S4 doesn't need to carry (and given the way that some of them shoot, I'd prefer that they not, "Loggies with ive ammo" is the scariest phrase in the English language), but commanders, CSM/1SGs, Platoon leaders and Platoon sergeants ought to be trustworthy enough to carry, and if they aren't, then they aren't leaders.