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Carol
07-28-2011, 02:47 PM
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-28-11 02:12 PM
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Any form of a debt ceiling passes Obama/Democrats win Republicans/Tea Party lose

The teabaggers drew a line in the sand: NO RAISING OF THE DEBT CEILING!

Debt ceiling raised? They lose. There will be some on our side who will say we lost, they are wrong.
They figure they are going to "lose" so they have to lie and change the narrative to make it seem like the Republicans "lose", when the focus for Republicans has been on budget cuts with raising the debt limit.

They do this stuff and then they can't figure out why they aren't believed. It's like they drink the koolaide, believe their own lies and then are shocked when others see the truth.

FBaggins (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-28-11 02:15 PM
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3. I'm all for raising/lowering the bar to try and spin...

...but that's taking it a bit too far, wouldn't you say?

wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Thu Jul-28-11 02:19 PM
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5. The debt ceiling debate was never the place to debate other issues

The debt ceiling debate was always about whether or not to raise it. If it is raised we win.If that's the case then why don't the Democrats agree one of the various Republican plans that involve raising the debt limit?

Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-28-11 02:19 PM
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6. Unless Social Security and Medicare are completely dismantled,

No matter what happens now the Democrats have already won.More spin because they know they are not going to get 100% of what they want and somehow they need to declare that they "won".

MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-28-11 02:22 PM
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11. Is that what you're calling a "victory"?

Any raising of the debt ceiling, no matter how odious the budget cuts are? "Hey, Obama won, he raised the debt ceiling! Nevermind that Grandma has to eat cat food and we've thrown the economy into the ditch again."

That truly shows what your priorities are, doing what is politically expedient no matter what the costs are to the vast majority of Americans.

And you call yourself a Democrat :puke:
Not all agree.


Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Thu Jul-28-11 02:31 PM
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13. Yes, the bar has been lowered pretty much to ground level

If the president doesn't trip and fall on way to the podium, and doesn't piss his pants during the appearance, HE WON!!!!11!LOL

MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-28-11 02:35 PM
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16. No, the debt ceiling debate should be about raising the debt ceiling, and only about that

This false crisis comes from 'Pugs linking budget cuts to hiking the debt ceiling, and Democrats going along with the madness. We should either have a clean bill on hiking the debt ceiling, or Obama should use the 14th amendment solution. Anything else is a loss for the American people. Democrats want a blank check to spend, spend, spend other peoples money.

michaelsean
07-28-2011, 03:45 PM
MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-28-11 02:22 PM
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11. Is that what you're calling a "victory"?

Any raising of the debt ceiling, no matter how odious the budget cuts are? "Hey, Obama won, he raised the debt ceiling! Nevermind that Grandma has to eat cat food and we've thrown the economy into the ditch again."

That truly shows what your priorities are, doing what is politically expedient no matter what the costs are to the vast majority of Americans.

And you call yourself a Democrat uke:

I've never priced cat food, but I have to think that pound for pound it's more expensive than ground beef, potatoes, eggs etc.