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SaintLouieWoman
08-13-2011, 09:45 AM
Eeek, diet soda is making us fat (http://http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/is-diet-soda-making-you-gain-weight.aspx?xid=nl_EverydayHealthWomensHealth_2011 0812)



Is Diet Soda Making You Gain Weight?

Diet soda sounds like an easy way to cut calories, but new research shows it may not be good for weight loss. Learn why diet soda may actually cause you to gain weight, among other problems.


By Chris Iliades, MD (http://www.everydayhealth.com/contributing-writers-and-editors.aspx)
Medically reviewed by Pat F. Bass III, MD, MPH (http://www.everydayhealth.com/medical-reviewers.aspx)






If you feel better about having a burger and fries for lunch because you ordered a diet soda, you shouldn't. Studies show that diet soda may not be any better for you than regular soda (http://www.everydayhealth.com/photogallery/soda-alternatives.aspx). In fact, it may even be worse.

Close to 60 percent of Americans drink diet soda on a regular basis. Many of them believe diet soda helps them with weight loss (http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/steps-to-speed-up-weight-loss.aspx), but there is mounting evidence that diet soda may actually cause you to gain weight (http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/calories.aspx).
Diet Soda and Weight Loss: What Research Revealed
"Recent literature suggests that those who drink diet soda weigh more than those who don't. That shouldn't surprise anyone. Does diet soda cause weight gain? I think that is the wrong question. I don't think people should drink diet soda, whether they have weight problems or not," says Darwin Deen, MD, senior attending physician at Montefiore Medical Center's Department of Family and Social Medicine in the Bronx, New York.

Of top concern, drinking diet soda has been linked to developing metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome is a group of conditions that include expanding waist size, increased blood pressure, elevated triglycerides, lower levels of good cholesterol, and high fasting blood sugar levels. Having three or more of these findings increases your risk of diabetes (http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/diabetes-counting-calories.aspx) and heart disease. Here are some other research findings you should know about diet soda:

According to the San Antonio Heart Study, the more diet sodas you drink, the greater the chance that you will be overweight or obese. For each diet soda you drink there is a 65 percent increase in your risk of becoming overweight.
According to the Framingham Heart Study, if you drink diet soda you are at risk for weight gain and metabolic syndrome.
According to research done at Purdue University, rats that were fed artificial sweeteners gained more weight than rats fed normal sugar.
Findings from the Atherosclerosis Risk in Communities Study sponsored by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, show that meat, fried food, and diet soda are all significantly associated with metabolic syndrome.
Diet Soda and Weight Loss: Why the Weight Gain?

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Although researchers can't say for sure why diet soda sets the stage for weight gain, there are several possible reasons. "I discourage my patients from drinking diet sodas because while they have no calories, they are created to simulate the sweetness of a regular soda. This leaves the drinker’s taste buds completely overwhelmed. For an example of this, take a sip of water and then bite into your favorite fruit. Then try the same experiment with diet soda. Note that the real food tastes flat after drinking soda," explains Dr. Deen. The distortion of taste may cause the diet soda drinker to seek higher calorie foods.

Another possibility is that people just eat more because they think they are saving calories (http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/fewer-calories-stalls-metabolism.aspx) from drinking a diet soda. A direct link between artificial sweeteners and a craving for high-calorie foods may exist. There is also the possibility that the link is related to unknown factors involving diet, exercise, or other personal characteristics.

Diet Soda and Weight Loss: Caffeine’s Role
Although diet soda has fewer calories than regular soda, the caffeine content may be greater. According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a 12-ounce regular Coke contains 35 milligrams of caffeine and a Diet Coke contains 47 mg. At low levels, caffeine can stimulate energy, make you more alert, and may be beneficial for weight loss. In higher amounts it can cause nervousness, increased heart rate, and difficulty concentrating. You may also get withdrawal symptoms such as headache, irritability, or depression if you stop taking caffeine suddenly.

"Although caffeine can be helpful for weight loss, I recommend getting your caffeine from iced coffee. If you need to add sugar, add as little as possible for taste," says Deen. "I advise my patients to drink water. For a healthy alternative to diet soda, try adding one-third cup of fruit juice to seltzer water for a low-calorie and not-too-sweet beverage.”

Although the exact relationship of diet soda to weight gain and metabolic syndrome is not clear, it is obvious that diet soda should not be considered a “healthy” alternative to regular soda. When you choose to drink any soda, you are choosing to drink a beverage that is just not as healthy for you as milk, juice, or water.

Hawkgirl
08-14-2011, 08:10 AM
I stopped drinking diet soda about 3 years ago...and haven't gained a pound since I switched to regular...actually, I have lost weight.

Zafod
08-14-2011, 08:49 AM
Diet soda is perfectly fine if you watch your DIET. Calories in vs out is the basis of any successful diet. I still drink diet soda but not as a source of hydration which is what a lot of people do....

SaintLouieWoman
08-14-2011, 10:52 PM
Diet soda is perfectly fine if you watch your DIET. Calories in vs out is the basis of any successful diet. I still drink diet soda but not as a source of hydration which is what a lot of people do....

If you have x amount of calories per day vs x amount of calories expended via exercise, you still need to make the best of those daily allotted calories.

Here's the tip of the day from the trainer at Sarasota Memorial Hospital's affiliated Healthplex fitness club.


Avoid fat FREE diets! Many fat-free foods are actually loaded with sugar. Too much sugar is often the real reason people gain weight because if you don't burn it, you store it. Candy, cookies and soda aren't the only problem. Sugar is in virtually every food you eat. Breads, crackers, pretzels, and chips contain sugar. Be sure to check food labels

marinejcksn
08-14-2011, 11:30 PM
I've been mixing my Diet Soda with Whiskey. Maybe why I've gained a few lbs. :eek:

Zafod
08-14-2011, 11:36 PM
If you have x amount of calories per day vs x amount of calories expended via exercise, you still need to make the best of those daily allotted calories.

Here's the tip of the day from the trainer at Sarasota Memorial Hospital's affiliated Healthplex fitness club.

Ok... Not related to what I said really. Of course people need to watch what they eat and low fat diets never work EVER!!!! I believe in eating a good amount of fat. 50 to 60 % of my daily cals are fat.....

Novaheart
08-14-2011, 11:46 PM
Avoid fat FREE diets! Many fat-free foods are actually loaded with sugar. Too much sugar is often the real reason people gain weight because if you don't burn it, you store it. Candy, cookies and soda aren't the only problem. Sugar is in virtually every food you eat. Breads, crackers, pretzels, and chips contain sugar. Be sure to check food labels

AKA "Snackwell's Syndrome".

People may read labels, but you really don't master portion control until you measure the foods you are eating. I keep a (measuring) tablespoon and a digital scale on my kitchen counter. I write down exactly what I have eaten. If I eat something somewhere else, I make my best estimate and make a note which I put in my pocket. I took my digital scale to the health food store the other day, so I could get a visual idea of what I was actually putting in my salad.

I'm not so much about the calories, but the salt, potassium, and phosphorus. But when you count salt, potassium, and phosphorus the calories seem to get reduced as well. Now, I sometimes find myself at the end of the day looking at the food diary and needing to eat something. That hasn't happened in my entire life.

One of the things I object to about most diet plans is the idea that it should be as easy as it can be. Keeping a food diary really isn't all that hard, or time consuming, and when you sit down at the computer to figure up what you have eaten, it's really educational, because you also see the various vitamins and minerals you are taking in. The way you look at food starts to change.

SaintLouieWoman
08-14-2011, 11:53 PM
AKA "Snackwell's Syndrome".

People may read labels, but you really don't master portion control until you measure the foods you are eating. I keep a (measuring) tablespoon and a digital scale on my kitchen counter. I write down exactly what I have eaten. If I eat something somewhere else, I make my best estimate and make a note which I put in my pocket. I took my digital scale to the health food store the other day, so I could get a visual idea of what I was actually putting in my salad.

I'm not so much about the calories, but the salt, potassium, and phosphorus. But when you count salt, potassium, and phosphorus the calories seem to get reduced as well. Now, I sometimes find myself at the end of the day looking at the food diary and needing to eat something. That hasn't happened in my entire life.

One of the things I object to about most diet plans is the idea that it should be as easy as it can be. Keeping a food diary really isn't all that hard, or time consuming, and when you sit down at the computer to figure up what you have eaten, it's really educational, because you also see the various vitamins and minerals you are taking in. The way you look at food starts to change.

Impressed with how you're keeping track of things. I was wondering about the phosphorous. I've been trying to really watch the sodium content of foods. I don't eat any prepackage stuff, but prefer fixing my own veggie combinations. I've also been watching the sugar contents. I'm trying to achieve a lifestyle change, eating healthier.

I was told by a nutritionist that I wasn't getting enough fats, so have been eating those huge Florida avacados, now that they're in season. (not eating a whole one, but cutting them up with fresh tomatoes, several grated fresh peppers and a bit of onion) with a tad of olive oil. SR really enjoys that "salad", I guess a non-fancy caprese salad.

Do you take any supplements? I take those statin drugs for cholesterol, and have gone through quite a few of them. They all seem to have some side effects with the muscles, so have been taking a magnesium supplement, recommended by a chiropractor in St Louis. I thought she was a semi-quack who blatantly tried to take advantage of her patients' credit cards, but that suggestion seems to help.

noonwitch
08-15-2011, 09:48 AM
No. I never got fat from drinking Diet Coke. I got fat from eating too many Reese's Peanut Butter cups and not getting enough exercise.

I did quit the candy when I started exercising, and started eating more homemade sweets instead. I'm not dieting, though.

I'm down another size, since I added riding the bike and lifting some light weights at the gym (3 days or so a week) to my daily lap swimming.

Novaheart
08-15-2011, 11:43 AM
Impressed with how you're keeping track of things. I was wondering about the phosphorous. I've been trying to really watch the sodium content of foods. I don't eat any prepackage stuff, but prefer fixing my own veggie combinations. I've also been watching the sugar contents. I'm trying to achieve a lifestyle change, eating healthier.

I was told by a nutritionist that I wasn't getting enough fats, so have been eating those huge Florida avacados, now that they're in season. (not eating a whole one, but cutting them up with fresh tomatoes, several grated fresh peppers and a bit of onion) with a tad of olive oil. SR really enjoys that "salad", I guess a non-fancy caprese salad.

Do you take any supplements? I take those statin drugs for cholesterol, and have gone through quite a few of them. They all seem to have some side effects with the muscles, so have been taking a magnesium supplement, recommended by a chiropractor in St Louis. I thought she was a semi-quack who blatantly tried to take advantage of her patients' credit cards, but that suggestion seems to help.

The only reason I am watching potassium and phosphorus is because my blood levels of those two are at the high end of normal and these are nutrients which people with kidney damage watch. When I was only watching the calories and sodium I also lost weight, because I kept my diary and because processed foods and restaurant foods are either unknowns or unreliable in accounting. The sodium difference between an order of french fries in Easton Maryland and one in San Francisco is probably 100%.

My cholesterol is OK, but I was reading the other night that my high cabbage intake is really good for cholesterol management. I eat a lot of cabbage as I use it to fill my homemade 45 calorie egg rolls.

http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?dbid=19&tname=foodspice

Cabbage can provide you with some special cholesterol-lowering benefits if you will cook it by steaming. The fiber-related components in cabbage do a better job of binding together with bile acids in your digestive tract when they've been steamed. When this binding process takes place, it's easier for bile acids to be excreted, and the result is a lowering of your cholesterol levels. Raw cabbage still has cholesterol-lowering ability, just not as much as steamed cabbage..............


Health Benefits
Cancer prevention tops all other areas of health research with regard to cabbage and its outstanding benefits. More than 475 studies have examined the role of this cruciferous vegetable in cancer prevention (and in some cases, cancer treatment). The uniqueness of cabbage in cancer prevention is due to the three different types of nutrient richness found in this widely enjoyed food. The three types are (1) antioxidant richness, (2) anti-inflammatory richness, and (3) richness in glucosinolates.

Novaheart
08-15-2011, 11:45 AM
No. I never got fat from drinking Diet Coke. I got fat from eating too many Reese's Peanut Butter cups and not getting enough exercise.

I did quit the candy when I started exercising, and started eating more homemade sweets instead. I'm not dieting, though.

I'm down another size, since I added riding the bike and lifting some light weights at the gym (3 days or so a week) to my daily lap swimming.

Don't freak out, but getting fat is not the worst thing attributed to Diet Coke. Read about phosphoric acid and kidney disease. There is only one study, and it's not rock hard science, but the Mayo Clinic suggests that while the accusation against "dark sodas" isn't proven, it's not an essential food and erring on the side of caution might be in order.

Most sources recommend drinking clear sodas. I have started drinking Polar Seltzer waters. It comes in flavors and the neat thing is that when you drink one you are satisfied, you don't feel the need for a refill unless you are actually thirsty.

SaintLouieWoman
08-15-2011, 12:45 PM
After reading all this information, looks like I'll have to add it to my shopping list at the Amish markets. That SautA steaming method is the one that my mom used to use all the time. I'm sure she didn't realize that she was using a healthy method, but used to love the green and red cabbage she'd make with a touch of soy. It was about the only thing she made that wasn't totally bland and horrible. I hated her cube steaks. :vomit:
They were as tough as shoe leather.

I couldn't find the recipe of the egg rolls. They sound good. SR isn't a big cabbage fan, but hopefully he'll learn to enjoy it. :D

Starbuck
08-15-2011, 01:49 PM
.......... SR isn't a big cabbage fan, but hopefully he'll learn to enjoy it. :D

Tie him up and starve him! By the end of the week he'll be beggin' for it!:)

noonwitch
08-15-2011, 01:55 PM
Don't freak out, but getting fat is not the worst thing attributed to Diet Coke. Read about phosphoric acid and kidney disease. There is only one study, and it's not rock hard science, but the Mayo Clinic suggests that while the accusation against "dark sodas" isn't proven, it's not an essential food and erring on the side of caution might be in order.

Most sources recommend drinking clear sodas. I have started drinking Polar Seltzer waters. It comes in flavors and the neat thing is that when you drink one you are satisfied, you don't feel the need for a refill unless you are actually thirsty.




The DUmmies were always trying to tell me that aspartame was the problem, and that somehow, Donald Rumsfeld was behind it's use.

Diet Coke is so much better than the product it replaced (Tab), and most of that is due to aspartame being a more pleasant taste than saccherine. I hate coffee and drink Diet Coke the way a lot of people drink coffee. Clear sodas generally don't have caffeine.

Novaheart
08-15-2011, 05:05 PM
I couldn't find the recipe of the egg rolls. They sound good. SR isn't a big cabbage fan, but hopefully he'll learn to enjoy it. :D

1 package of shredded cole slaw cabbage mix (in the bagged lettuce section of regular grocery)

Pam or spray olive oil

garlic powder (or minced garlic)
onion powder
a sprinkle of balsamic vinegar
Mrs. Dash "Steak" seasoning

Put the slaw mix (this is not dressed cole slaw, it's just the vegetables you can shred or mince of head of lettuce if you want but it won't have the carrot and purple cabbage for color) in your best teflon pan, sprinkle with garlic, Mrs. Dash, onion powder and balsamic vinegar and about two cups of water and cook on high until pretty well wilted. Drain in colander and put in a bowl and stick it in the fridge while you make the sauce.

Sauce:

pineapple juice 1 cup
rice vinegar 1/2 cup
water 1/2 cup
cornstarch 2 tablespoons
crushed red pepper (to taste)



Okay so after you empty the pan of the cabbage mix, use the same pan if you like, or a small good teflon pan. I keep saying "good" and "best" for teflon because fat free cooking sticks to beat pans.

Put the juice in the pan and bring to a boil. Add the peppers, vinegar and (having whizzed the corn starch with the water) add the cornstarch/water. Stir on high heat until thickening begins. Pour in a tupperware and set aside.

Use Filipino Lumpia wrappers in the blue box only (oriental market). They are very thin. The blue box has paper separations and the red box wrappers are almost impossible to peel apart. Add filling (whatever amount you want, but remember that these are not sturdy wrappers), I use 35 grams of filling. Roll and fold like an eggroll. Place in your cleaned pan which has been sprayed with olive oil. Cook on high rolling and turning the last ones as you add the new ones. Let them get a little burnt. I have no idea if cooking on a lower temp and rolling often will produce uniform browning, but I don't have the patience for that and you have more than one panful to cook. Remove when done and plate.