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Odysseus
08-14-2011, 02:34 PM
'No porn or prostitution': Islamic extremists set up Sharia law controlled zones in British cities

By REBECCA CAMBER
Last updated at 12:11 PM on 28th July 2011 (More than 24 hours old, but only hitting the US media today via American Thinker).

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/27/article-2019547-0D076F6F00000578-268_233x423.jpg
Strict: The posters warn passers-by that they are entering a zone where Islamic rules, such as 'no alcohol', are 'enforced'

Islamic extremists have launched a poster campaign across the UK proclaiming areas where Sharia law enforcement zones have been set up.

Communities have been bombarded with the posters, which read: ‘You are entering a Sharia-controlled zone – Islamic rules enforced.’

The bright yellow messages daubed on bus stops and street lamps have already been seen across certain boroughs in London and order that in the ‘zone’ there should be ‘no gambling’, ‘no music or concerts’, ‘no porn or prostitution’, ‘no drugs or smoking’ and ‘no alcohol’.

Hate preacher Anjem Choudary has claimed responsibility for the scheme, saying he plans to flood specific Muslim and non-Muslim communities around the UK and ‘put the seeds down for an Islamic Emirate in the long term’.

In the past week, dozens of streets in the London boroughs of Waltham Forest, Tower Hamlets and Newham have been targeted, raising fears that local residents may be intimidated or threatened for flouting ‘Islamic rules’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019547/Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-extremists-set-Sharia-law-zones-UK-cities.html#ixzz1V1mO3aG2

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One quick note to the liberals here who claimed that this would never, ever happen, and that Sharia would never make any inroads in a western democracy: You can admit that you were wrong any minute now.
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The article states that Choudary has threatened to enforce this with patrols: "We now have hundreds if not thousands of people up and down the country willing to go out and patrol the streets for us and a print run of between 10,000 and 50,000 stickers ready for distribution.'"

Think about that. Islamist brownshirts enforcing Sharia in London. Not Riyadh. Not Cairo. Not Baghdad. London.

Other rules in effect in a Sharia-controlled zone (if they are serious about enforcing the whole thing, which they are) will include:

No usury, which Islam defines as any loan for interest. Which means no mortgages, auto loans, etc. Can't wait to see what the thugs do to the repo men.
No other religions. Is there a church or synagogue nearby? Sharia bans any construction of new ones or repairs or improvements to old ones, and no display of the symbols of other faiths.
No such thing as crime if the perp is a Muslim and the victim isn't. You see, under Sharia, the testimony of non-Muslims is worth only half of that of Muslims, and many of the things that we consider crimes, like assault, theft, rape and murder are perfectly acceptable if done in the name of forcing unbelievers to submit to Islam. In fact, such things are actively encouraged in the Sunna and Hadiths (which are the basis of Sharia) as ideal means of making non-Muslims feel humiliation and weakness so that they will cease resisting submission.
No dating. Any contact between unmarried men and women is forbidden.
No music. It's on the sign. Music apparently offends Allah.
No alcohol. Again, on the sign. But does that mean that you can't sell it, buy it outside the district and bring it in, or even have it in your home if you aren't a Muslim? Yep.

txradioguy
08-14-2011, 02:59 PM
Aaaand the deniers claiming "this won't happen here" coming in 4...3...2...

Bubba Dawg
08-14-2011, 03:01 PM
:eek:

No they din't!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :rolleyes:

Dan D. Doty
08-14-2011, 05:25 PM
Can someone drop this little goody over at DU, and the other Liberal websites and see what the Moonbats have to think about this?

Just wait till they kill or cripple someone who's Jewish, or Gay; want see how the Leftist spin that.

The British should be kicking the asses of these Islamofascist punks, not letting them take over because of PC bullsh*t,

Odysseus
08-14-2011, 07:38 PM
Can someone drop this little goody over at DU, and the other Liberal websites and see what the Moonbats have to think about this?

Just wait till they kill or cripple someone who's Jewish, or Gay; want see how the Leftist spin that.

The British should be kicking the asses of these Islamofascist punks, not letting them take over because of PC bullsh*t,

It happens all of the time, and they ignore it or downplay it. Here's a story about three Muslims (okay, the article doesn't explicitly call them Muslims, and it's entirely possible that Mohammad Habibzada, Shafiq Hashemi and Sayed Bassam were Presbyterians, but the odds are against it) who were trolling San Francisco homeless shelters so that they could shoot gay men in the face with a bb gun while videotaping it:



Video has more BB attacks, S.F. officials say
Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, March 13, 2010

(03-12) 15:13 PST SAN FRANCISCO --

A video made by three cousins from Hayward charged with an alleged anti-gay shooting with a BB rifle last month in San Francisco shows 11 other attacks in a single night, authorities said Friday.

The men have been charged in San Francisco with a hate crime and assault for allegedly firing a BB rifle Feb. 26 at the face of a man they believed was gay. The man, who was walking on 16th Street near Guerrero Street, was not badly hurt and later identified the three suspects.

The three were freed on $50,000 bail soon after their arrest. But on Friday, Mohammad Habibzada, Shafiq Hashemi and Sayed Bassam, all 24, appeared in court and were immediately rearrested. They were all being held late Friday on $450,000 bail.

They were returned to custody after prosecutors viewed a video that police found in the three men's car when they were arrested.

Brian Buckelew, spokesman for District Attorney Kamala Harris, said the video showed the 16th Street attack and BB rifle shootings aimed at 11 other men. Police say the video depicts the suspects laughing as they fire.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/12/BALL1CEUUK.DTL#ixzz1V2wLHcfy

And Muslim on Jewish violence happens all the time. UC Berkeley is being sued for allowing Muslims to attack and intimidate Jews:


U.S.: Jewish Student Sues UC Berkeley over Muslim Assault
A Jewish student attacked for supporting Israel is suing UC Berkeley for allowing a “dangerous and threatening” campus environment.
by Maayana Miskin
Published: 06/03/11, 8:41 PM / Last Update: 06/03/11, 10:53 PM

Takver, Wikimedia
A Jewish student at the University of California at Berkeley who was attacked by a Muslim student last year has filed suit against UC Berkeley for failing to provide a safe atmosphere. In her suit, 21-year-old Jessica Felber alleges that UC Berkeley did not effectively deal with harassment and intimidation by Muslim and pro-Arab student groups, leading to “a dangerous and threatening environment.”

Felber was attacked by Husam Zakharia, leader of the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) group, during a rally. At the time, she was holding a sign that said “Israel Wants Peace.”

Zakharia rammed Felber with a shopping cart, causing her injury. Following the assault, she was granted a restraining order against Zakharia.

The assault could have been prevented if campus authorities had taken sufficient care to ensure students' safety, according to the suit. Instead, UC Berkeley policies “fostered and encouraged” pro-terrorist incitement, “turned a blind eye to the perpetrators of illegal activities,” and “failed to effectively discipline the MSA [Muslim Student Association] and SJP for their pro-terrorist programs, goals and conduct; despite having ample notice that such violence was foreseeable.”

By failing to provide security to Jewish and pro-Israel students, UC Berkeley “condoned and allowed the MSA, the SJP and MSU [Muslim Student Union] to threaten, harass and intimidate Jewish students and to endanger their health and safety.”

The suit lists several instances of past anti-Israel and anti-Jewish incitement on the Berkeley campuses and UC campuses in central and northern California, particularly the campus in Irvine.

According to the lawsuit, the SJP and MSA have previously staged “checkpoints” at which they brandish mock weapons and demand that students state their religious affiliation. The checkpoints are meant to mimic the IDF's checkpoints in Judea and Samaria, at which soldiers check passing vehicles for weapons and bombs.

The suit also notes that Zakharia and two other SJP activists were cited in 2008 for battery, after disrupting a college by a campus Jewish group and assaulting a Jewish student.

SJP members heckled Mideast expert Daniel Pipes and author Nonie Darwish when the two came to speak at UC Berkeley in 2004 and 2007 respectively. SJP activists allegedly shouted “Death to Zionism,” “Zionism is racism,” and “Seig Heil” during Pipes' address.
And Jews are roughly eight times more likely to be on the receiving end of a reported bias crime than Muslims.


Let's start with the national numbers: 8.4 percent of religious hate crimes in America were anti-Muslim in 2009 (the most recent date for which statistics are available). By contrast, that same year, nearly 72 percent of religious hate crimes in America were anti-Jewish (Muslims in America faced 107 incidents of bias in 2009; Jews faced 931).

This pattern has remained fairly consistent over the past decade. For example, in 2002, 10.5 percent of the religious bias crimes in America were anti-Muslim while 65% were anti-Jewish; in 2006 (just to pick another post- 9/11/2001 year), 11.9 percent of the religious bias crimes in America were anti-Muslim while 65.4 percent were anti-Jewish. (It is worth noting here that exact statistics on the Muslim population in America are hard to assess -- estimates range from 2.6 million to 7 million, a number President Obama cited -- the Jewish population is generally agreed upon at about 6.5 million).
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/26/bennett.muslim.hearing/index.html


BTW, here's a video of a jihadi woman crashing the memorial for the two Soldiers who were gunned down in Little Rock last year. If she'd done this at a memorial for Matthew Shepard, she'd have been all over the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqopnIAnmAw&feature=player_embedded#at=65

Novaheart
08-14-2011, 07:47 PM
Can someone drop this little goody over at DU, and the other Liberal websites and see what the Moonbats have to think about this?



I can predict what the moonbats will have to say about it: they will claim that it's probably a "false flag" operation by the BNP or one of a dozen other "neo-nazi/nationalist" organizations.

ABC in Georgia
08-14-2011, 08:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqopnIAnmAw&feature=player_embedded#at=65

Wow Ody!

Video longer than I thought, but worth every minute spent on it.

What a load of taqiyya!

And what a stupid naive muslim *bitch* she is.

"Jesus was a Muslim." And something about we all have the same God.

Dream on lady! And guess what?

There sure aren't going to be any 72 virgin Muslim males in heaven waiting for YOU if you should die in the name of your "Moon God Allah" or however the hell you spell his name.

No such thing as a "virgin" male believer in that CULT of a religion!

Not to mention, women are not even respected by the males ... only useful as a means to give birth to yet more "soldiers for Allah."

Spleen vented! ~ ABC

Odysseus
08-14-2011, 10:11 PM
There sure aren't going to be any 72 virgin Muslim males in heaven waiting for YOU if you should die in the name of your "Moon God Allah" or however the hell you spell his name.

No such thing as a "virgin" male believer in that CULT of a religion!

Not to mention, women are not even respected by the males ... only useful as a means to give birth to yet more "soldiers for Allah."

Spleen vented! ~ ABC

Actually, there are boys in the Islamic heaven, as well, who are "like pearls", but they're for the men. Seriously. I suppose that a woman who wants to be surrounded by 72 male virgins can go to a comic book convention. :D

Sonnabend
08-14-2011, 11:14 PM
Seriously. I suppose that a woman who wants to be surrounded by 72 male virgins can go to a comic book conventionColonel, that meme was dead thirty years ago. You're showing your age, not to mention a few stereotypes. The last comic con I went to? The ladies were as much involved as the men were...they were the wives making sure hubby behaved himself. :D

txradioguy
08-15-2011, 04:00 AM
Actually, there are boys in the Islamic heaven, as well, who are "like pearls", but they're for the men. Seriously. I suppose that a woman who wants to be surrounded by 72 male virgins can go to a comic book convention. :D

There's a reason it's called "man love Thursday" in Afghanistan.

the director
08-15-2011, 07:20 AM
I'm going to play devil's advocate, so here we go:

How is this any different than the Christian Right Wingers in America? What is their basis for blocking the legalization of gay marriage? How about the constant battle to inject religion and creationism into public schools? Who go batshit crazy themselves when a TV station leaves God out of a national anthem? Who claim that America is a "Christian nation built on Christian values?"

There are "dry counties" in America where alcohol is banned (ask anyone from the 101st). Anti-smoking ads and anti-smoking laws make many areas of this nation "Sharia compliant" already. Conservatives rail against porn and violence, like in video games (see: the conservative reaction to the ruling that allows companies to sell violent video games to minors). Conservatives block prostitution from being legalized, as well as drugs (marijuana, cocaine).

I'd say America is pretty Sharia law compliant already, thanks to conservatives - more specifically, right wing Christian fundamentalists.

Sooooooooo ... yeah. Kinda scary, actually.

namvet
08-15-2011, 09:09 AM
I'm going to play devil's advocate, so here we go:

How is this any different than the Christian Right Wingers in America? What is their basis for blocking the legalization of gay marriage? How about the constant battle to inject religion and creationism into public schools? Who go batshit crazy themselves when a TV station leaves God out of a national anthem? Who claim that America is a "Christian nation built on Christian values?"

There are "dry counties" in America where alcohol is banned (ask anyone from the 101st). Anti-smoking ads and anti-smoking laws make many areas of this nation "Sharia compliant" already. Conservatives rail against porn and violence, like in video games (see: the conservative reaction to the ruling that allows companies to sell violent video games to minors). Conservatives block prostitution from being legalized, as well as drugs (marijuana, cocaine).

I'd say America is pretty Sharia law compliant already, thanks to conservatives - more specifically, right wing Christian fundamentalists.

Sooooooooo ... yeah. Kinda scary, actually.

your fuckin' boat to the EU is ready to go anytime

noonwitch
08-15-2011, 09:42 AM
There is a difference between muslims that want to impose Sharia laws on all around them and those that don't.



Considering the large number of muslims of middle-eastern descent who own liquor stores (that also sell porn) and gas stations (that sell cigarettes) in metro Detroit, I'm not all that concerned that this is the next move here. When I go into ME restaurants, I hear music playing, music being sung in arabic.


Prostitution is illegal. I just want the police enforcing it, not some group of religious neighborhood people doing so.

Odysseus
08-15-2011, 10:29 AM
Colonel, that meme was dead thirty years ago. You're showing your age, not to mention a few stereotypes. The last comic con I went to? The ladies were as much involved as the men were...they were the wives making sure hubby behaved himself. :D
Back when I was in the business, it was the norm, but I haven't been to a con since the mid-nineties. I guess today they'd be at a gaming con.

I'm going to play devil's advocate, so here we go:

How is this any different than the Christian Right Wingers in America? What is their basis for blocking the legalization of gay marriage? How about the constant battle to inject religion and creationism into public schools? Who go batshit crazy themselves when a TV station leaves God out of a national anthem? Who claim that America is a "Christian nation built on Christian values?"

There are "dry counties" in America where alcohol is banned (ask anyone from the 101st). Anti-smoking ads and anti-smoking laws make many areas of this nation "Sharia compliant" already. Conservatives rail against porn and violence, like in video games (see: the conservative reaction to the ruling that allows companies to sell violent video games to minors). Conservatives block prostitution from being legalized, as well as drugs (marijuana, cocaine).

I'd say America is pretty Sharia law compliant already, thanks to conservatives - more specifically, right wing Christian fundamentalists.

Sooooooooo ... yeah. Kinda scary, actually.

There are several differences. First, while the Christian right does argue for values-based policies, they seek to impose policy through persuasion and the ballot box, i.e., through democratic means. The Muslims are unilaterally declaring sovereignty in their enclaves and denying the supremacy of the law of the land. It is the difference between an election and a coup. And let's remember that the Muslims who are declaring their sovereignty have no legal authority, but will be acting through intimidation and the threat of violence (and the threat is very real, as any woman who has walked through a Muslim enclave without a head scarf can tell you).

Second, dry counties only ban the sale of liquor, not its possession in private hands. When I was stationed at FT Knox, we persons who lived in the surrounding dry county could buy liquor on post and bring it home without issue. The Muslims will not simply ban the sale of liquor, they will also attack those who merely possess it.

Third, we aren't talking about the US here, but Britain, which does have a national church, and which is explicitly a Christian nation, which even has blasphemy laws on the books. The unilateral declaration of a relio-political enclave in which the Church of England and English law are no longer observed or respected is not simply a moral crusade, but an act of sedition and treason against the crown.

Finally, whether you care to admit it or not, the US is a predominently Christian nation, in which non-Christian minorities enjoy a level of religious liberty not seen in the world since the fall of Rome (The Romans only suppressed two religious orders during their reign, the Druids, who practiced human sacrifice, and Judaism, which instigated violent rebellions against Roman rule). The First Amendment guarantees of religious freedom are a direct reaction to the sectarian religious wars that devastated Europe during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, and the basic premise was that all religious would be equal before the law. Sharia, by contrast, denies the equality of the rights of all other religions. It demands and enforces the supremacy of Islam and Muslims. It imposes special taxes on non-Muslims, denies them the right to build other houses of worship or even to maintain those already built, imposes additional restrictions on the rights of women and otherwise mandates unequal treatment by the law. It is also assumed to be divine law, and as such, supercedes any man-made law. In fact, man-made law is considered heresy under Sharia. Our entire Constitution would have to be overthrown by a Sharia-compliant enclave, and ultimately, that is the final issue, that Sharia is not simply a religious doctrine, but a political one. It is the legal code that augments the religious code of Islam and facilitates the imperialistic expansion of Islam. Christians in the US do not seek global conquest. Sharia-imposing Muslims do.

txradioguy
08-15-2011, 10:33 AM
I'm going to play devil's advocate, so here we go:

How is this any different than the Christian Right Wingers in America? What is their basis for blocking the legalization of gay marriage? How about the constant battle to inject religion and creationism into public schools? Who go batshit crazy themselves when a TV station leaves God out of a national anthem? Who claim that America is a "Christian nation built on Christian values?"

If you want to dispute the "Christian Nation built on Christian values" you're argument is really with the fellow who wrote this:


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

I believe his name was Thomas Jefferson...perhaps you've hard of him.

Please point out who went "batshit crazy" when a broadcast network purposely deleted "Under God" from a recitation of the National Anthem.

The evolution battle? That we came from primordial ooze and all that stuff Darwin touted is about as credible as the "facts" behind AGW. And last time I checked the Athiests had won that battle in the schools...for now.

Fact of the matter is you and others have no cluse anymore as to what the Establishment Clause stands for in the Constitution. You're too lazy to find out. You're all too content to just lip synch the MSM version of what it stands for....and that is a lie in itself what they are trying to tell people.

You're a sucker for buying it.


There are "dry counties" in America where alcohol is banned (ask anyone from the 101st). Anti-smoking ads and anti-smoking laws make many areas of this nation "Sharia compliant" already. Conservatives rail against porn and violence, like in video games (see: the conservative reaction to the ruling that allows companies to sell violent video games to minors). Conservatives block prostitution from being legalized, as well as drugs (marijuana, cocaine).

I'd say America is pretty Sharia law compliant already, thanks to conservatives - more specifically, right wing Christian fundamentalists.

Christians in the U.S. aren't advocating "their way" via the use of bomb gun or knife on those that don't submit.

The things you point out that happen in the U.S. are accomplished via the ballot box or in the case of "dry counties" city ouncils and county boards.

You don't see anyone who is a Christian saying "make this a dry county or we'll stone you". "Quit buying cigarettes or we'll send a suicide bomber to your corner Bodega."

Roman Catholics aren't creating their own autonomous areas within large cities enforcing Vatican law instead of city regulations or county ordanaces.

Baptists aren't out there destroying Methodist churches.

You're attempt at playing the moral relevance card is as pathic as your examples are lame.



Sooooooooo ... yeah. Kinda scary, actually.

What is scary is that you actually thought what you were saying made sense.

Hawkgirl
08-15-2011, 05:39 PM
....and they said it wouldn't happen...

I'd like to see them try this shit in New York..

Odysseus
08-15-2011, 05:50 PM
....and they said it wouldn't happen...

I'd like to see them try this shit in New York..

Give it about a decade. Parts of Brooklyn are ripe for this. They have a number of extremist mosques that preach Sharia compliance and the overthrow of the infidel, and which have created the nexus of this kind of enclave. When they have had enough people move in around them to dominate the area, they will declare themselves a Sharia-Controlled Zone. Basically, they need a working majority in the immediate area in order to make it work.

Bloomberg is such a dhimmi that he's probably already calculating his Jizya.

Hawkgirl
08-15-2011, 05:57 PM
Give it about a decade. Parts of Brooklyn are ripe for this. They have a number of extremist mosques that preach Sharia compliance and the overthrow of the infidel, and which have created the nexus of this kind of enclave. When they have had enough people move in around them to dominate the area, they will declare themselves a Sharia-Controlled Zone. Basically, they need a working majority in the immediate area in order to make it work.

Bloomberg is such a dhimmi that he's probably already calculating his Jizya.

They may try it, but it will not be successful...as a former New Yorker...I know they would be killed.
They'd have the hispanic, black and aryan gangs kick the crap out of them, just for trying. Bloomberg hasn't stopped Organized Crime (including gangs in this), the death toll would be steep. They are just waiting for the right time to seek revenge for 9/11.

MrsSmith
08-15-2011, 09:34 PM
I'm going to play devil's advocate, so here we go:

How is this any different than the Christian Right Wingers in America? What is their basis for blocking the legalization of gay marriage?

Something like 70% of the voters consistently vote against redefining marriage to make it nothing more than "whoever you're screwing." The basis for this is the fact that for all of written history, marriage has been between men and women, and has always been the basic arrangement for bringing children into this world...and was usually more like a business partnership to raise children that belonged physically to both adults...not some "batshit crazy" arrangement.


How about the constant battle to inject religion and creationism into public schools?

I have some of my great-grandmother's old text books. Believe me, whatever religion and creationism we manage to put back into public schools is nothing new!


Who go batshit crazy themselves when a TV station leaves God out of a national anthem? No one. :rolleyes:


Who claim that America is a "Christian nation built on Christian values?" Um...the founding fathers, especially the ones that were active pastors.


There are "dry counties" in America where alcohol is banned (ask anyone from the 101st). Anti-smoking ads and anti-smoking laws make many areas of this nation "Sharia compliant" already. Dry counties may be conservative, but the anti-smoking stuff is purely left-wing.


Conservatives rail against porn and violence, like in video games (see: the conservative reaction to the ruling that allows companies to sell violent video games to minors). **GASP** NO!! Conservatives actually want to protect minors from porn and violence!! Say it ain't so. :rolleyes:


Conservatives block prostitution from being legalized, as well as drugs (marijuana, cocaine).

I'd say America is pretty Sharia law compliant already, thanks to conservatives - more specifically, right wing Christian fundamentalists.

Sooooooooo ... yeah. Kinda scary, actually.Yeah, those horrible fundies and their honor killings. Wow, if someone were to make like an image of that Christ dude and put him in urine, or maybe cover him with chocolate, some fundie would cut his head off or bomb his house.

OOPS! Guess not... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andres_Serrano The guy is still alive, not in hiding to save his life...oh, well. You were almost right on a couple points. Almost...

txradioguy
08-16-2011, 01:52 AM
....and they said it wouldn't happen...

I'd like to see them try this shit in New York..

What do you think is next if the Ground Zero Mosque gets built?

Sonnabend
08-16-2011, 08:19 AM
Back when I was in the business, it was the norm, but I haven't been to a con since the mid-nineties. I guess today they'd be at a gaming con.

Average age of gamers, mid 20's married with kids or no kids and double income. As many women as men in gaming, many husband / wife teams in gaming of all kinds.

Most famous women in gaming: Roberta Williams,. co founder of Coarsegold, later known as Sierra/ Vivendi (creator of Kings Quest series amongst others)


As of 2011, the average age for a video game player is 37, a number slowly increasing as people who were children playing the first arcade, console and home computer games continue playing now on current systems.The gender distribution of gamers is reaching equilibrium, according to a 2011 study showing that 58% of gamers are male and 42% female.As of 2011, ESA reported that 71% of people age six to forty-nine in the U.S. played video games, with 55% of gamers playing on their phones or mobile devices.The average age of players across the globe is mid to late 20s, and is increasing as older players grow in numbers

Sorry Colonel, your Intel is out of date (http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2011.pdf)

:D:D:D:D

noonwitch
08-16-2011, 08:38 AM
What do you think is next if the Ground Zero Mosque gets built?



A huge, multi-cultural celebration headed up by Rick Warren?

txradioguy
08-16-2011, 10:55 AM
A huge, multi-cultural celebration headed up by Rick Warren?

Please tell me that was tongue-in-cheek

noonwitch
08-16-2011, 12:32 PM
Please tell me that was tongue-in-cheek

Yes. I watch Jack van Impe for laughs.

Odysseus
08-16-2011, 04:30 PM
A huge, multi-cultural celebration headed up by Rick Warren?

Unlikely. The imams won't allow a Christian to preach under Sharia.

Hawkgirl
08-16-2011, 05:23 PM
What do you think is next if the Ground Zero Mosque gets built?

a titty bar and liquor store flanking both sides of it.

MrsSmith
08-16-2011, 07:24 PM
a titty bar and liquor store flanking both sides of it.

And pork BBQ place across the street...

Odysseus
08-16-2011, 07:59 PM
a titty bar and liquor store flanking both sides of it.


And pork BBQ place across the street...

And a gay bar around the corner, right by the rear entrance.

namvet
08-16-2011, 08:13 PM
virgins. don't forget the virgins

8w49fJwvjRs

Hawkgirl
08-16-2011, 08:22 PM
And a gay bar around the corner, right by the rear entrance.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA

Odysseus
08-16-2011, 11:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA

Rimshot could be the name of the gay bar. :D

Hawkgirl
08-17-2011, 04:32 PM
Rimshot could be the name of the gay bar. :D


:applause:

Elspeth
08-17-2011, 10:52 PM
Years ago I read While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within . The author was accused of racism at the time, but how right he was:

http://www.amazon.com/While-Europe-Slept-Radical-Destroying/dp/0767920058/ref=sr_1_29?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313635592&sr=1-29

Snarky review, but read between the lines. (And, yeah, this was a gay liberal author!)


Having recently published an indictment of Christian fundamentalist intolerance in the U.S. (Stealing Jesus), New York native Bawer relocated to Europe with his Norwegian partner in 1998 and found an even more dangerous strain of religious and cultural bigotry ensnaring Western Europe. A swarming menace called radical Islam, he writes, rings Europe's cities in smoldering Muslim ghettos, provoking everything from so-called honor killings and political assassinations to the Madrid subway bombings and the massacre of school children in Beslan. Worse, the Taliban-like theocracy Bawer sees looming inside backward immigrant populations resistant to integration flourishes under the protective wing of Western Europe's America-bashing, multicultural, liberal establishment. The latter correspond to the appeasers of Nazi Germany, in Bawer's view, since he believes that radical Islamism is every bit the threat to Western civilization that Nazism was. He scoffs at talk of "understanding" or "dialogue," indeed, at any but the most muscular response hitching Europe ever tighter to the U.S. war on terror. His clash-of-civilizations outlook means real issues often get washed away by sweeping statements designed to tar Europe's Muslims with one irredeemably hostile, welfare-sponging brush, while trading in well-worn stereotypes about virtuous American "realists" and corrupt European "idealists." (Mar.)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


The groundwork has been laid for Islamic space in European communities for quite some time.

http://www.amazon.com/Making-America-Comparative-Studies-Societies/dp/0520204042/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313635277&sr=1-10#reader_0520204042


Check out the items in the table of contents. This is an academic book from some 15 years ago.

Also:

Islam: Europe's second religion
http://www.amazon.com/Islam-Europes-Second-Religion-Political/dp/0275976092/ref=sr_1_16?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313635527&sr=1-16

cajunrevenge
08-18-2011, 01:09 AM
I am going to have to call bull shit on this story. This story makes no sense. How are they going to enforce sharia law? What authority do they have? Any dip shit can post some flyers.

Elspeth
08-18-2011, 01:35 AM
I am going to have to call bull shit on this story. This story makes no sense. How are they going to enforce sharia law? What authority do they have? Any dip shit can post some flyers.

From 2008, Sunday Times (UK)--mainstream paper:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece




Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts
Abul Taher

ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.

Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.

Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

Siddiqi said: “We realised that under the Arbitration Act we can make rulings which can be enforced by county and high courts. The act allows disputes to be resolved using alternatives like tribunals. This method is called alternative dispute resolution, which for Muslims is what the sharia courts are.”

The disclosure that Muslim courts have legal powers in Britain comes seven months after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was pilloried for suggesting that the establishment of sharia in the future “seems unavoidable” in Britain.

In July, the head of the judiciary, the lord chief justice, Lord Phillips, further stoked controversy when he said that sharia could be used to settle marital and financial disputes.

In fact, Muslim tribunal courts started passing sharia judgments in August 2007. They have dealt with more than 100 cases that range from Muslim divorce and inheritance to nuisance neighbours.

It has also emerged that tribunal courts have settled six cases of domestic violence between married couples, working in tandem with the police investigations.

Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of “smaller” criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. “All we are doing is regulating community affairs in these cases,” said Siddiqi, chairman of the governing council of the tribunal.

Jewish Beth Din courts operate under the same provision in the Arbitration Act and resolve civil cases, ranging from divorce to business disputes. They have existed in Britain for more than 100 years, and previously operated under a precursor to the act.

Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.

Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”

Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “I think it’s appalling. I don’t think arbitration that is done by sharia should ever be endorsed or enforced by the British state.”

There are concerns that women who agree to go to tribunal courts are getting worse deals because Islamic law favours men.

Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.

The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.

In the six cases of domestic violence, Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.

In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police and the police stopped their investigations.

Siddiqi said that in the domestic violence cases, the advantage was that marriages were saved and couples given a second chance.

Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: “The MCB supports these tribunals. If the Jewish courts are allowed to flourish, so must the sharia ones.”

txradioguy
08-18-2011, 04:10 AM
The same thing has happened in Canada.

This President has a Sharia banking advisor.

And yet the denial reamins that at the very least an attempt to impose Sharia law in the U.S. can never happen.

Odysseus
08-18-2011, 09:06 AM
I am going to have to call bull shit on this story. This story makes no sense. How are they going to enforce sharia law? What authority do they have? Any dip shit can post some flyers.
The imposition of Sharia will be done by the "patrols" that Choudary referred to in the article. These are essentially Muslim brownshirts who will wander the neighborhood and violently harrass anyone that they deem to be in violation. The French have had huge problems with this kind of violence in their Islamic enclaves, as the patrols consider it their right and duty to assault women who aren't properly veiled or confiscate anything that they decide violates Sharia (which allows them to take over the illicit activities that they are ostensibly attacking, such as drug dealing) and harrass non-Muslims until they leave the enclave. In addition, these patrols attack police and other first responders when they enter the enclaves, so they end up not responding to calls unless they can go in massive strength. The locals soon learn that the legitimate police cannot help them, and stop relying on them.

The same thing has happened in Canada.

This President has a Sharia banking advisor.

And yet the denial reamins that at the very least an attempt to impose Sharia law in the U.S. can never happen.

The president should have a Sharia banking advisor. We need to understand how Islamic financial institutions work so that we can track terror funding and money laundering for other illicit purposes, such as violations of weapons conventions. What he shouldn't have is an advisor who tells him how the US can be Sharia compliant. Dhimmitude is not an American tradition.