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megimoo
08-15-2011, 01:40 AM
Russia not amused at Red Army statue re-invented as Superman and friends

Sofia's communist war monument after a colourful makeover replacing troops with Superman, Robin, Santa, and Ronald McDonald.....There was Superman in red leather boots, Ronald McDonald clutching a bottle of beer, and Santa Claus about to look through a pair of binoculars.....

A benign if motley bunch, you may think. But they were enough to provoke an international diplomatic rebuke, it emerged on Wednesday, after they featured in an impudent make-over of a Soviet war memorial. Members of Russia's government were said to be seething.....An unidentified street artist struck last weekend, daubing paint on a high-relief statue in Sofia, Bulgaria, to transform the monument's Red Army soldiers into a tableau of storybook characters. The artist's caption spray-painted on the statue read: "In step with the times."

Moscow was not amused. In a statement issued Wednesday, the foreign ministry urged Sofia to expose and punish the "hooligans behind the vandalism" and stop the "desecration of the memory of Soviet soldiers who fell in the name of freeing Bulgaria and Europe from Nazism".....Captain America and Batman's sidekick, Robin, also featured in the composition, which quickly became a tourist magnet.

Imposing socialist-realist war memorials have become painful reminders of Soviet rule for some countries that threw off their communist shackles in the late 1980s and early 1990s. In 2007 ethnic Russians rioted in Estonia when authorities there removed the Bronze Soldier statue. One man was stabbed to death and dozens were injured.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/22/russia-red-army-memorial-painted

fettpett
08-15-2011, 08:49 AM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/6/22/1308761755652/Soviet-war-monument-in-So-007.jpg


That's so awesome!

noonwitch
08-15-2011, 09:15 AM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/6/22/1308761755652/Soviet-war-monument-in-So-007.jpg


That's so awesome!


It's a big improvement over the dull soviet war memorial. Plus, Bulgaria is no longer part of the Warsaw Pact, so who cares what the russians think?

namvet
08-15-2011, 09:26 AM
I thought they had one of Rambo :D

Odysseus
08-15-2011, 09:51 AM
I'm of two minds on this one.

Imagine if some French socialist did the same thing to the allied memorial at Normandy, or some local idiot took his spray cans to the USMC memorial in Washington DC. I am not equating our army with the Soviets, far from it. Their record of atrocities in Europe is unmatched by any nation's forces, including the Wehrmacht (The Soviets raped every woman that they were able to capture, and not just in Germany), but once you accept that memorials can be vandalized with impunity, you end up having to explain why ours are off limits but theirs are not. It is still vandalism.

OTOH, it's really cool vandalism.

Rockntractor
08-15-2011, 10:34 AM
I'm of two minds on this one.

Imagine if some French socialist did the same thing to the allied memorial at Normandy, or some local idiot took his spray cans to the USMC memorial in Washington DC. I am not equating our army with the Soviets, far from it. Their record of atrocities in Europe is unmatched by any nation's forces, including the Wehrmacht (The Soviets raped every woman that they were able to capture, and not just in Germany), but once you accept that memorials can be vandalized with impunity, you end up having to explain why ours are off limits but theirs are not. It is still vandalism.

OTOH, it's really cool vandalism.

Do I have to stop vandalizing trolls?:confused:

Odysseus
08-15-2011, 10:48 AM
Do I have to stop vandalizing trolls?:confused:

That's not vandalism. It's... Hmmmm... It's really cool vandalism. Now, when are you going to switch nightie's tag line?

DumbAss Tanker
08-15-2011, 12:29 PM
I can see why the Russians aren't too amused about this. It would be like repainting the Iwo Jima statue as dudes wearing assless chaps for Gay Pride week.

djones520
08-15-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm of two minds on this one.

Imagine if some French socialist did the same thing to the allied memorial at Normandy, or some local idiot took his spray cans to the USMC memorial in Washington DC. I am not equating our army with the Soviets, far from it. Their record of atrocities in Europe is unmatched by any nation's forces, including the Wehrmacht (The Soviets raped every woman that they were able to capture, and not just in Germany), but once you accept that memorials can be vandalized with impunity, you end up having to explain why ours are off limits but theirs are not. It is still vandalism.

OTOH, it's really cool vandalism.

While they may not have conducted themselves all that great, yeah I can definitely see the reason for anger.

Last time I was in Kyrgyzstan, a tour guide was telling us about how WW2 affected the country. Apparently the Soviet Union conscripted something like 3 out of 5 men from the country. Only 1 in 5 of those came home.

So for them, I could definitely understand their anger at defacing a memorial that was put in place for such a huge portion of their population that died in a war they really didn't have a say in.

Rockntractor
08-15-2011, 01:54 PM
As an art work though it is simply monumental!

Odysseus
08-15-2011, 05:51 PM
I can see why the Russians aren't too amused about this. It would be like repainting the Iwo Jima statue as dudes wearing assless chaps for Gay Pride week.

Yeah, the Captain America figure had to particularly hurt.

Hawkgirl
08-15-2011, 06:23 PM
He gotz mad skillz!

megimoo
08-15-2011, 08:14 PM
As an art work though it is simply monumental!
Groan..Pun Proneness is ,perhaps,Symptomatc of an embrionic mental condition...

It's sure to inspire Banksy,...His record in America has now been challanged...And Washington DC is such a Statue target rich zone.....What with the Pterodactyl grabbing a surfer in California.....Banksy needs some new publicity to stay on top....

proneness - being disposed to do something; "accident proneness"
disposition - a natural or acquired habit or characteristic tendency in a person or thing; "a swelling with a disposition to rupture"
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According to Freud..,But what does he really know ....

Puns may be the lowest form of wit (and "therefore the foundation of all wit" according to Henry Erskine) but do they deserve the scorn that has been heaped upon them by their detractors down through the ages? Coleridge allowed that the pun was "harmless... because it never excites envy." Even Sigmund Freud waded in on the topic explaining the pun's lowly stature with the fact that they are "the cheapest- can be made with the least trouble." Leave it to Oscar Levant to astutely point out: "A pun is the lowest form of humor- if you didn't think of it first."
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Puns and Play on Words...

Much Ado About Nothing is a comedy by William Shakespeare about two pairs of lovers, Benedick and Beatrice, and Claudio and Hero.
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Mistaken Identity/Masks

People are constantly pretending to be others or being mistaken for other people. The most famous example is Margaret who is mistaken for Hero, which leads to Hero's public disgrace. However, during a festival in which everyone is masked, Beatrice rants about Benedick to a masked man who turns out to be Benedick himself.

During the same celebration, Don Pedro, masked, pretends to be Claudio and courts Hero for him. After Hero is announced "dead," Leonardo orders Claudio to marry his "niece," who is actually Hero in disguise.
Noting

Another motif is the play on the words nothing and noting, which in Shakespeare’s day were homophones.[12] Taken literally, the title implies that a great fuss ("much ado") is made of something which is insignificant ("nothing"), such as the unfounded claims of Hero’s infidelity. The title could also be understood as Much Ado About Noting. Much of the action is in interest in and critique of others, written messages, spying, and eavesdropping. This is mentioned several times, particularly concerning "seeming", "fashion", and outward impressions. Nothing is a double entendre, "an O-thing" (or "'n othing" or "no thing") was Elizabethan slang for "vagina", evidently derived from the pun of a woman having "nothing" between her legs.[13][4] 'Noting' can refer to singing, especially sight-reading.

Examples of noting as noticing occur in the following instances: (1.1.131–132)
Claudio: Benedick, didst thou note the daughter of Signor Leonato?

Benedick: I noted her not, but I looked on her.

and (4.1.154–157).
Friar: Hear me a little,

For I have only been silent so long
And given way unto this course of fortune
By noting of the lady.

At (3.3.102–104), Borachio indicates that a man’s clothing doesn’t indicate his character:
Borachio: Thou knowest that the fashion of a doublet, or a hat, or a cloak is nothing to a man.

A triple play on words in which noting signifies noticing, musical notes and nothing occurs at (2.3.47–52):
Don Pedro: Nay pray thee, come;

Or if thou wilt hold longer argument,
Do it in notes.
Balthasar: Note this before my notes:
There’s not a note of mine that’s worth the noting.
Don Pedro: Why, these are very crotchets that he speaks –
Note notes, forsooth, and nothing!

Don Pedro’s last line can be understood to mean, "Pay attention to your music and nothing else!" The complex layers of meaning include a pun on "crotchets," which can mean both "quarter notes" (in music) and whimsical notions.

The following are puns on notes as messages: (2.1.174–176),
Claudio: I pray you leave me.

Benedick: Ho, now you strike like the blind man – ‘twas the boy that stole your meat, and you’ll beat the post.

in which Benedick plays on the word post as a pole and as mail delivery in a joke reminiscent of Shakespeare’s earlier advice "Don’t shoot the messenger"; and (2.3.138–142)
Claudio: Now you talk of a sheet of paper, I remember a pretty jest your daughter told us of.

Leonato: O, when she had writ it and was reading it over, she found Benedick and Beatrice between the sheet?

in which Leonato makes a sexual innuendo concerning sheet as a sheet of paper (on which Beatrice’s love note to Benedick is to have been written) and a bedsheet.

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Alls Well That ends Well....:D