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megimoo
09-07-2011, 07:28 PM
Radio giant high on Florida senator despite question of eligibility

PALM BEACH, Fla. Even though he's not running for the presidency and may not even be eligible for it, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida will someday hold the highest office in the land, according to talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh.

The top-rated political analyst made the prediction this afternoon while making a point about sticking to candidates with conservative purity instead of promoting moderate Republicans.

"You want conservative purity," said Limbaugh, "I'll give it to you: Marco Rubio, who is someday going to be president of the United States."

He made the statement as part of an in-depth discussion on whether conservatives should remain faithful to their values, or become more moderate.

He cited Rubio, an unabashed conservative, who defeated former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, often described as a moderate, in the race for U.S. Senate.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=342485

Hawkgirl
09-07-2011, 07:38 PM
question of eligibility? Was he born in Cuba?

megimoo
09-07-2011, 08:34 PM
question of eligibility? Was he born in Cuba?

Nope, born May 28, 1971 (age 40) Miami, Florida

djones520
09-07-2011, 09:33 PM
Nope, born May 28, 1971 (age 40) Miami, Florida

Yeah... that's what I'm finding. This website is weird though.

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/09/marco-rubio-eligible-for-president-or-vice-president-inquiring-minds-want-to-know/

It completely ignores the fact that he was born in the US, and tries to make the case that because both his parents weren't citizens, he's not eligible. Then they try to extrapolate that onto Obama. *shrugs*

fettpett
09-07-2011, 10:22 PM
Yeah... that's what I'm finding. This website is weird though.

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/09/marco-rubio-eligible-for-president-or-vice-president-inquiring-minds-want-to-know/

It completely ignores the fact that he was born in the US, and tries to make the case that because both his parents weren't citizens, he's not eligible. Then they try to extrapolate that onto Obama. *shrugs*

yeah, that guy is trying to make something out of nothing, all cases pertaining to the 14th amendment ("All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.") and citizenship since United States v. Wong Kim Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark) have ruled that person's born on US soil are citizens. it's cut and dry. Rubio is eligible.

djones520
09-07-2011, 10:23 PM
yeah, that guy is trying to make something out of nothing, all cases pertaining to the 14th amendment ("All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.") and citizenship since United States v. Wong Kim Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark) have ruled that person's born on US soil are citizens. it's cut and dry. Rubio is eligible.

Which suprises me about Rush's uncertainty about it. He's usually smarter then that.

fettpett
09-07-2011, 10:30 PM
Which suprises me about Rush's uncertainty about it. He's usually smarter then that.

I didn't listen to him today, so I don't know how he said it. Knowing him though, his comments were probably completely off the cuff and hasn't really looked into Rubio's eligibility so wasn't sure. He does that a lot.

djones520
09-07-2011, 10:44 PM
I didn't listen to him today, so I don't know how he said it. Knowing him though, his comments were probably completely off the cuff and hasn't really looked into Rubio's eligibility so wasn't sure. He does that a lot.

Rereading it, I think it was WND who made that statement, which wouldn't suprise me. Those guys couldn't bother to fact check anything if there life depended on it.

fettpett
09-07-2011, 10:54 PM
Rereading it, I think it was WND who made that statement, which wouldn't suprise me. Those guys couldn't bother to fact check anything if there life depended on it.

yeah, bunch of tards...they just try to create stories 1/2 the time, that's why i rarely ever even go to that site. This whole story is stupid and they are just trying to make something out of nothing

malloc
09-08-2011, 01:15 AM
I think it has to do with language from the Constitution:



No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

compare that to the eligibility requirement for a Senator/Rep:



No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.


Since the phrase "Natural Born Citizen" was used for the executive and simply "Citizen" was used for Senator and Representative, there is an argument that the intent was that the POTUS should be somehow more "pure" American, and that both parents have to be American citizens in order to be "Natural Born"..

I don't buy it at all, but I'm not sure if it's ever been tested in Court. I think "Citizen for 9 years" means "at least 9 years since naturalization if the person was naturalized". I believe "Natural Born Citizen" means "citizen since birth". So a naturalized citizen is a citizen of the U.S., but cannot run for Senate for 9 years or Rep for 7 years. In order to be POTUS, you'd have to be a citizen all your life, or alive during the signing of the constitution.

fettpett
09-08-2011, 09:45 AM
I agree with you, but Rubio was still born in the US, is old enough, and therefore eligible to be Pres, he's meet all requirements.