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megimoo
09-09-2011, 05:55 PM
A member of a Pacific Northwest longshoreman’s union verbally attacked and threatened a news crew that showed up at the union’s local headquarters in Longview, Washington. The confrontation was captured on a video that hit YouTube Friday morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHBGGvuQhA&feature=player_embedded

“I’m from KGW and I wanted to know if there was anyone here who would want to talk to us about the situation,” a Portland, Ore. television correspondent is seen asking while knocking on the building’s door.

“Actually, if you go down to Miller Avenue, and talk to them dumbasses down there at EGT, they’ll tell you how they’re fucking the Longshoremen around here,” the union member answered from behind the door. “That’s what you can do, so go back to Portland. Bye!”

EGT Development is a contracting company that operates a grain terminal in Longview, Wash., which is at the center of an International Longshore and Warehouse Union work stoppage. The Portland television news crew, from NBC affiliate KGW, proceeded to film papers posted on the building’s exterior wall. That didn’t sit so well with the already clearly upset union member.

On Wednesday in Longview, hundreds of International Longshore and Warehouse Union members, upset over EGT’s decision to hire workers from a different union, stormed the facility and blocked train tracks there, escalating a longstanding labor dispute.

By Thursday, union workers walked off the job at four other Washington ports, including one in Seattle, and a federal judge was warning the ILWU to stand down. The ILWU contends that it did not call for the work stoppage.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/09/longshoreman-assaults-media-%E2%80%98get-the-fuck-out-of-this-parking-lot-right-now%E2%80%99/#tcot

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 06:08 PM
A member of a Pacific Northwest longshoreman’s union verbally attacked and threatened a news crew that showed up at the union’s local headquarters in Longview, Washington. The confrontation was captured on a video that hit YouTube Friday morning.

They were on private property and had been told to leave, but stayed and were filming printed materials not legible from the public sidewalk.

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 06:09 PM
But good for you megimoo. Sing, sing, sing.

megimoo
09-09-2011, 06:18 PM
But good for you megimoo. Sing, sing, sing.

It seems to me the Union Critters were guilty of kidnapping by holding those guards against their wills ?Why didn't the FBI go in and arrest the whole lot of them ?

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 06:32 PM
It seems to me the Union Critters were guilty of kidnapping by holding those guards against their wills ?
Why didn't the FBI go in and arrest the whole lot of them ?

Probably because the FBI doesn't act on your imagination or bias. If the news crew feels wronged, they have lawyers.

megimoo
09-09-2011, 06:32 PM
They were on private property and had been told to leave, but stayed and were filming printed materials not legible from the public sidewalk.

I assume there were other businesses using that parking lot ?

A bit more from the The Daily Caller :

Longshoreman assaults media: ‘Get the fuck out of this parking lot right now’


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On Wednesday in Longview, hundreds of International Longshore and Warehouse Union members, upset over EGT’s decision to hire workers from a different union, stormed the facility and blocked train tracks there, escalating a longstanding labor dispute.

By Thursday, union workers walked off the job at four other Washington ports, including one in Seattle, and a federal judge was warning the ILWU to stand down. The ILWU contends that it did not call for the work stoppage.

“Hey, get your fucking camera out of here, that’s none of your fucking business, you cock bite,” the union member said to the reporter while grabbing his camera. “Unless you want [to be arrested for] trespassing, get the fuck out of here now. Get out of here now! Don’t fuck with me partner!”

A member of the news crew retorted: “You’re not on the PR staff, are you?”

The union member kept threatening the news crew: “You don’t fucking worry about who I’m with. Get the fuck out of here, that’s none of your fucking business, cocksucker. Unless you want trespassing, get out of here.”

A cameraman kept filming the union member, who then approached him and yelled: “You want your fucking camera broke, cocksucker?”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/09/longshoreman-assaults-media-%e2%80%98get-the-fuck-out-of-this-parking-lot-right-now%e2%80%99/#ixzz1XUsZ8uSN

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 06:43 PM
I assume there were other businesses using that parking lot ?

You have no reason to assume that.

newshutr
09-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Ok...having been in the situation that the cameramen were in numerous times...as I am a cameraman and have been punched, spit on, kicked, pushed, almost run over and been shot at a total of 6 times..

The media has the right to go onto the property to ask to talk to someone. If asked to leave private property, then they must do so. Hopefully the union HQ was clearly marked Private Property..otherwise the news crews have a good argument for being in the parking lot/property.

However what happened there was assault by the longshoreman on the cameraman. Possibly both cameramen. When Mr. Cocksucker (hey, he said that was his name....) physically touched the lens of the camera, he has committed assault. Courts have ruled that in the duty of recording news stories, interviews, etc., the camera becomes an extension of the body, therefore if it is touched in any threatening way it can be considered assault on the person holding the camera.

Whether the parking lot is owned by the union..is vague as it was never mentioned...or if recorded, wasn't shown..there seems to be a gap in the footage...unknown if it is totally "raw". The cameraman could have stopped down, or it was edited for briefness (to cut out some of the ancillary b-roll in between the door and Mr. Cocksucker coming out..)

Mr. Cocksucker had no reason to touch the lens...of either camera..

newshutr
09-09-2011, 07:40 PM
Probably because the FBI doesn't act on your imagination or bias. If the news crew feels wronged, they have lawyers.

No, actually, they have the cops/sheriff dept. to call. Looking at the video..I don't see anywhere that is shown as private property..

No visible signage... but then again, haven't seen all of the b-roll..

newshutr
09-09-2011, 07:47 PM
They were on private property and had been told to leave, but stayed and were filming printed materials not legible from the public sidewalk.

Do you see where it says private property anywhere in the video? Any "no trespassing" signs anywhere..?

This undetermined.. You can't claim it's private property, Nova.. And if it is in a strip mall area, or business park, then where the media could be allowed is vague without clarification from the owner of said property by sign or security.

lacarnut
09-09-2011, 07:51 PM
They were on private property and had been told to leave, but stayed and were filming printed materials not legible from the public sidewalk.

Majority of workers are non union and think unions have served their purpose. This kind of behavior just re enforces their beliefs. Mindless liberals like you think scum bag union members have a right to perpetrate violence. You are some kind of stupid if you think so. Oh, and don't tell me that these fanatics do not do the same thing on public property. You Fail.

newshutr
09-09-2011, 07:59 PM
I can see Nova's conundrum...Leftist media...and leftist unions.. Who to support...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1F5BLLFAeM

newshutr
09-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Here's a little example of someone who thought they could intimidate me. The gentleman who confronted me, his brother had been killed by the cops because during, during a raid on a meth lab, the brother pulled a .45 and was shot dead..

I was on the sidewalk across the street from the house, and then stepped in the street..

I'm not a little guy by any means..6'3", 277, this guy didn't intimidate me but I didn't become confrontational..I stood my ground and explained that I had a job to do..

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/newshutr/?action=view&current=awt.mp4

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 10:59 PM
Do you see where it says private property anywhere in the video? Any "no trespassing" signs anywhere..?

This undetermined.. You can't claim it's private property, Nova.. And if it is in a strip mall area, or business park, then where the media could be allowed is vague without clarification from the owner of said property by sign or security.

The news crew was order to leave from behind the closed door. The union man didn't approach them until he saw that they were not leaving, rather they were filming notices on the side of the building. The location is referred to as the parking lot of the building. My reasoning is sound, yours begins with "if".

newshutr
09-09-2011, 11:13 PM
The news crew was order to leave from behind the closed door. The union man didn't approach them until he saw that they were not leaving, rather they were filming notices on the side of the building. The location is referred to as the parking lot of the building. My reasoning is sound, yours begins with "if".

Yes...because I always obey faceless commands.. If I order you to log out from this site, are you going to obey? They have no idea if that person has the authority to order anyone off. Still hasn't been established IF the parking lot was private or public property. That's the sound reasoning...that the aspect of the property was public or private.

Your reasoning is idiotic.

Notice you didn't say anything about the unprovoked assault BY the union member on the camera crews..

And for God's sake, get it right...they're recording...they're taping. They're not filming.

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 11:25 PM
Yes...because I always obey faceless commands.. .


See that's the beauty of how it works. You can be an asshole if you want, but if someone orders you off a property in Florida, you better leave, and no you don't have the right to demand proof of ownership.



Your reasoning is idiotic.

Yeah well, I'm really impressed by you so far.



Notice you didn't say anything about the unprovoked assault BY the union member on the camera crews..

He ordered them to leave, they weren't leaving. That is an aggressive act. He was not unprovoked. He was a little testy, but he wasn't unprovoked. Nothing he did would have happened if the news crew had retreated to a public sidewalk when ordered to do so. They were the aggressors.



And for God's sake, get it right...they're recording...they're taping. They're not filming.

Kiss my ass.

Novaheart
09-09-2011, 11:41 PM
The union hall is county parcel 02135 and the parking lot is clearly private. There is a wheelstop curb around the property perimeter with breaks at the driveway.

newshutr
09-09-2011, 11:50 PM
See that's the beauty of how it works. You can be an asshole if you want, but if someone orders you off a property in Florida, you better leave, and no you don't have the right to demand proof of ownership.

Well chuckles...they weren't in Florida.




Yeah well, I'm really impressed by you so far.

Glad you're impressed.. You should see my matinee show.




He ordered them to leave, they weren't leaving. That is an aggressive act. He was not unprovoked. He was a little testy, but he wasn't unprovoked. Nothing he did would have happened if the news crew had retreated to a public sidewalk when ordered to do so. They were the aggressors.

No, not one thing the media did was aggressive. I've been in the exact same situation many times. Had the police called on me and my reporters too many times to mention. Unless they have a badge and and will put me in jail, no one orders me to stop performing my job. I will not break the law and if I'm on private property, I'm off once if it's established it's private property..or will not go on if notified beforehand.

Tell me, where did the media people use profanity or threatening words or actions. Who on the video tape uses the profanity? The only thing the media did was...and wait for it..exercise the the First Amendment..but that's lost on a liberal..

And you still haven't proved that it was a private property situation. I can call my home Mt. Everest...it doesn't make it so. Just cause Mr. Cocksucker said it was...doesn't make it so..

So, what about it...was Mr. Cocksucker justified grabbing of the lens hoods on both cameras?





Kiss my ass.

Sorry sissy, I don't swing that way..

newshutr
09-10-2011, 12:21 AM
The union hall is county parcel 02135 and the parking lot is clearly private. There is a wheelstop curb around the property perimeter with breaks at the driveway.

Show me where it's posted Private property...

newshutr
09-10-2011, 12:33 AM
One thing I'd bet on..


If there weren't private property signs up before...there are now.

Novaheart
09-10-2011, 12:48 AM
Show me where it's posted Private property...

It doesn't matter, they had been told to leave.

newshutr
09-10-2011, 12:55 AM
It doesn't matter, they had been told to leave.

Nope...sorry...doesn't work that way.

AmPat
09-10-2011, 12:40 PM
It doesn't matter, they had been told to leave.

The moron did not identify himself as anybody who had authority to tell them to leave. I would have challenged him on that. If the moron had poked his chest in my face I would have shoved the barrel of my pistol 2 inches up his left nostril. This will end up with many holes in the ground. IS that what all you liberturds want?

Starbuck
09-10-2011, 02:34 PM
They were on private property and had been told to leave.........
Actually, in most places if the drive way in connected to the public road it is not considered private property and you may not limit access.

I have some experience in this area with trucks. A police officer usually will not ask anyone to leave who is legally parked. As an officer explained to me: Anyone can buy a no parking sign, but the police force is only allowed to enforce city ordinances.
A business may not order you off their property simply because they do not like you.

Novaheart
09-10-2011, 04:34 PM
The moron did not identify himself as anybody who had authority to tell them to leave. I would have challenged him on that.

He doesn't have to, he answered the door.

You guys are making fools out of yourselves because you have been convinced that union are teh debbil. Any other time, I would expect you to be defending private property rights.

You pull a gun on a man who has told you to leave his property, and he has a right to shoot you in Florida.

Novaheart
09-10-2011, 04:40 PM
Actually, in most places if the drive way in connected to the public road it is not considered private property and you may not limit access.

I have some experience in this area with trucks. A police officer usually will not ask anyone to leave who is legally parked. As an officer explained to me: Anyone can buy a no parking sign, but the police force is only allowed to enforce city ordinances.
A business may not order you off their property simply because they do not like you.

The Jehovah's Witness ruling saying that a solicitor (or a newscrew, or anyone else) has the right to go where the US Postal carrier goes. That is not in dispute. It does not entitle you to hang out on someone else's property. It entitles you to knock on the door, make a statement, request, or delivery, and then leave. The newscrew was not trespassing by knocking on the door of the building. That is not in dispute. They were trespassing as soon as they turned to leave, but decided to stay on the private property.

The newscrew was not standing in a driveway. The driveway is entirely in the right of way, and therefore public. The driveway ends at the entrance to the parking lot, which is private property and they do indeed have a right to decide who can and cannot remain in their parking lot. The union hall is not a public accommodation and no part of it is considered a right of way.

lacarnut
09-10-2011, 05:42 PM
The Jehovah's Witness ruling saying that a solicitor (or a newscrew, or anyone else) has the right to go where the US Postal carrier goes. That is not in dispute. It does not entitle you to hang out on someone else's property. It entitles you to knock on the door, make a statement, request, or delivery, and then leave. The newscrew was not trespassing by knocking on the door of the building. That is not in dispute. They were trespassing as soon as they turned to leave, but decided to stay on the private property.

The newscrew was not standing in a driveway. The driveway is entirely in the right of way, and therefore public. The driveway ends at the entrance to the parking lot, which is private property and they do indeed have a right to decide who can and cannot remain in their parking lot. The union hall is not a public accommodation and no part of it is considered a right of way.

The union scum bag does not have the right to threaten the news crew. It has already been explained to you about putting a hand on the camera. Of course a liberal punk like you thinks it is okay for the union scum in WA to destroy private property and trespass there. Which is it, hypocrite? Once again, everyone sees what a pathetic liberal dumbass you are.

newshutr
09-11-2011, 01:45 PM
He doesn't have to, he answered the door.

You guys are making fools out of yourselves because you have been convinced that union are teh debbil. Any other time, I would expect you to be defending private property rights.

You pull a gun on a man who has told you to leave his property, and he has a right to shoot you in Florida.



Hey numbnuts..Guess what...? I'm also a union member that is going through a dispute with my employer..I've had a 24% pay cut forced on me and my-co-workers..

Once again...you're using Florida's laws that don't apply in another state.

newshutr
09-11-2011, 01:58 PM
It doesn't matter, they had been told to leave.

Ok, if it's that simple...using your logic...

LEAVE THIS SITE NOW...!!!

Lets see if you follow your own train of thought. Leave. Pack up and log out. Don't come back.

Bet you don't.

Chuck58
09-11-2011, 06:54 PM
Hey numbnuts..Guess what...? I'm also a union member that is going through a dispute with my employer..I've had a 24% pay cut forced on me and my-co-workers..

Once again...you're using Florida's laws that don't apply in another state.

A friend of ours is a Teamster, a truck driver in Massachusetts. He works for Yellow Freight. Not long ago, they were forced to take a substantial pay cut - don't know exactly how much or, as I understand, risk the closure of their terminal and job loss. No cut in dues, though. The Teamsters still get all of their money.

newshutr
09-11-2011, 07:17 PM
A friend of ours is a Teamster, a truck driver in Massachusetts. He works for Yellow Freight. Not long ago, they were forced to take a substantial pay cut - don't know exactly how much or, as I understand, risk the closure of their terminal and job loss. No cut in dues, though. The Teamsters still get all of their money.

This was enforced on us.. cuts were based on how long you were there...longer there..more pay cut..we had no say. We're fighting it in the NLRB. I'm not pro union..but what the company did was wrong..and same applies to us..we get a cut in pay but the dues are still the same..

I haven't paid them since the cut..

MountainMan
09-11-2011, 07:19 PM
A friend of ours is a Teamster, a truck driver in Massachusetts. He works for Yellow Freight. Not long ago, they were forced to take a substantial pay cut - don't know exactly how much or, as I understand, risk the closure of their terminal and job loss. No cut in dues, though. The Teamsters still get all of their money.

Best thing that could happen to the trucking industry is if Yellow-Roadway Corp (ie. YRC) goes out of business. They are a cancer in the trucking industry right now.

Chuck58
09-11-2011, 08:00 PM
This was enforced on us.. cuts were based on how long you were there...longer there..more pay cut..we had no say. We're fighting it in the NLRB. I'm not pro union..but what the company did was wrong..and same applies to us..we get a cut in pay but the dues are still the same..

I haven't paid them since the cut..

Sounds similar. Maybe it wasn't just Yellow, but all over. Our friend has been with them 18 yrs. He took a substantial pay cut. That I know.

He doesn't pay much attention to Teamster diatribe. He's Republican and Conservative or as Conservative as any Conservative in Massachusetts, which to me is more conservative light.

newshutr
09-11-2011, 08:07 PM
Sounds similar. Maybe it wasn't just Yellow, but all over. Our friend has been with them 18 yrs. He took a substantial pay cut. That I know.

He doesn't pay much attention to Teamster diatribe. He's Republican and Conservative or as Conservative as any Conservative in Massachusetts, which to me is more conservative light.

Well I'm a NABET member.. Broadcasting union..

AmPat
09-12-2011, 08:43 AM
He doesn't have to, he answered the door.

You guys are making fools out of yourselves because you have been convinced that union are teh debbil. Any other time, I would expect you to be defending private property rights.

You pull a gun on a man who has told you to leave his property, and he has a right to shoot you in Florida.

He could have been the janitor. He showed no more bonifides than the newsman. I would have pushed said DUmmy to the brink, caught his response on tape, and his ass whipping put on you tube.:cool:

AmPat
09-12-2011, 08:46 AM
He doesn't have to, he answered the door.

You guys are making fools out of yourselves because you have been convinced that union are teh debbil. Any other time, I would expect you to be defending private property rights.

You pull a gun on a man who has told you to leave his property, and he has a right to shoot you in Florida.

That would be some trick for a dead man to pull.:rolleyes: