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SaintLouieWoman
09-10-2011, 08:59 AM
Beckel a racist? (http://http://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2011/09/09/a_history_lesson_for_the_racist_bob_beckel)



A History Lesson for the Racist Bob Beckel

By Humberto Fontova

9/9/2011



“I still have my Che Guevara poster. Che Guevara was a freedom fighter.” (Bob Beckel on FoxNews’ “The Five” Sept. 5th)
If Bob Beckel’s “freedom-fighter” had been allowed his fondest bit of “freedom-fighting” Bob Beckel’s incinerated remains would fit in a gin bottle today. “America is the great enemy of mankind! Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination!...If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York City (http://www.hfontova.com/che.html).”
For the record: Ernesto “Che” Guevara was second in command, chief executioner, and chief KGB liaison for a regime that jailed more political prisoners per capita than did Stalin’s during the Great Terror and murdered more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its first three years in power than Hitler’s murdered (out of a population of 70 million) in its first six (http://www.hfontova.com/che.html). Many, perhaps most, of those murdered and jailed by the regime Che Guevara co-founded were Batista opponents.

The Stalinist regime Che Guevara imposed on Cuba also stole the savings and property of 6.4 million citizens, made refugees of 20 percent of the population from a nation formerly deluged with immigrants and whose citizens had achieved a higher standard of living than those residing in half of Europe. Many opponents of the regime Che Guevara co-founded qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history, having suffered prison camps, forced labor and torture chambers for a period three times as long in Che Guevara’s Gulag as Alexander Solzhenitsyn suffered in Stalin’s Gulag. Most of these had been Batista opponents.

“Don't put him in a list of fascists. The fascists (Batista) were the ones he was trying to get rid of.” (Bob Beckel on FoxNews’ “The Five” Sept. 5th)
For the record: According to the Cuba Archive Project (http://cubaarchive.org/home/), the Castro regime – with firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture and drownings at sea – has caused an estimated 102,000 Cuban deaths. According to the Harper Collins Atlas of the Second World War, Nazi repression caused 172,260 French civilian deaths during the occupation. France was nation of 42 million in 1940. Cuba was a nation of 6.5 million in 1960. My calculator reveals that Beckel’s freedom-fighter caused an enormously higher percentage of deaths among the people he “freed” than the Nazis caused among the French they enslaved and tortured with the SS and Gestapo.

Beckel tells the “Fox Five” that the CIA killed many more people than Che and implies that in the 50’s the agency was Che’s enemy.
In fact during the late 1950’s the Castro brothers and Che Guevara had no better friends--and Fulgencio Batista few worse enemies--than the CIA. “Me and my staff were all Fidelistas,” (Robert Reynolds, the CIA’s “Caribbean Desk’s specialist on the Cuban Revolution” from 1957-1960.)
“Everyone in the CIA and everyone at State was pro-Castro, except (Republican) ambassador Earl Smith.” (CIA operative in Santiago Cuba, Robert Weicha.)
“Don’t worry. We’ve infiltrated Castro’s guerrilla group in the Sierra Mountains. The Castro brothers and Ernesto “Che” Guevara have no affiliations with any Communists whatsoever.” (crackerjack Havana CIA station chief Jim Noel 1958.)
“Listen, we (the U.S.) did not have the most stellar reputation in Latin America and South America during the 1950s and '60s….when the CIA was complicit in the assassination of Allende, that was killing a head of state.” (Bob Beckel)
Ground control to Major Bob: Allende died in the 70’s. But whatever. The leftist proverb that he was assassinated by the CIA was spun and spread only by the hardest of hard-left wackos. Not even Allende’s</I> own family believed it. An investigation including an autopsy by Chilean authorities just last month confirmed that Salvador Allende committed suicide. Surely you read the New York Times, Bob? (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/20/world/americas/20allende.html?_r=2)

“(Che) did help Fidel Castro get rid one of the biggest thugs and murdering bastards there ever was, and that was Batista in Cuba.” (Bob Beckel)
Batista was a mulatto grandson of slaves born on the dirt floor of a palm roofed shack in the Cuban countryside. As President (via honest elections 1940-44, bloodless coup 1952-58) he always enjoyed the support of Cuba’s labor unions. And under Batista, according to a study by the International Labor Organization, the Cuban workforce was more highly unionized than the U.S. work force, with Cuba’s Industrial laborers earning the 8th highest wages in the world (http://www.hfontova.com/fidel.html).
“Cuba’s laborer’s always maintained a stony indifference to Fidel Castro’s movement,” admitted Cuba’s richest man and Fidel and Che bankroller Julio Lobo, who knew because he employed thousands of them.
So here’s Bob Beckel bashing a black politician of lowly origin who enjoyed overwhelming unionized labor support--while hailing the lily-white rich-boys, Fidel and Che, who outlawed labor unions and sent such as Richard Trumka and Jimmy Hoffa to the firing squad or prison. Where’s Trumka, Hoffa and Maxine Waters on this? Using liberals’ own standards Beckel sure sounds like an elitist--and a racist to boot.

No doubt Beckel picked up the leftist proverb about Batista as “one of the biggest murdering bastards there ever was” from a meme hatched in 1957 by a Fidelista Cuban magazine publisher named Miguel Angel Quevedo. The meme asserts that Batista’s police and army “murdered 20,000 Cubans” and is still parroted by the MSM/Academia axis.
For the record: Ten years after he hatched and spread the lie, Quevedo (from exile, he scooted out just ahead of a Fidelista firing squad) confessed to the lie and greatly regretted how the lie helped the propaganda campaign to put Fidel and Che in power. The regret for the calamity he helped bring upon Cuba was such that, that right after signing the letter, Miguel Angel Quevedo put a gun to his head and blew his brains out (http://neoliberalismo.com/quevedo.htm).
“The idea of picking Che Guevara and calling him a mass-murder is crazy.” (Bob Beckel)

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“Humberto Fontova
Humberto Fontova is the author of four books including Exposing the Real Che Guevara and the Useful Idiots Who idolize Him and Fidel; Hollywood's Favorite Tyrant. Visit www.hfontova.com (http://www.hfontova.com/)

Novaheart
09-10-2011, 11:02 AM
Meh, I just have a Che! t-shirt because I like the idea of pissing off some useless POC like lacarnut sitting in his girly pseudo sportscar .

BTW, in the category of questioning the source, I found this wording to be suspicious:

"According to the Cuba Archive Project, the Castro regime – with firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture and drownings at sea – has caused an estimated 102,000 Cuban deaths."

Elian Gonzales' mother was not killed by Castro, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy counts all the people who died trying to cross to Florida as having been killed. It's dishonest.

AmPat
09-10-2011, 01:30 PM
Meh, I just have a Che! t-shirt because I like the idea of pissing off some useless POC like lacarnut sitting in his girly pseudo sportscar .

BTW, in the category of questioning the source, I found this wording to be suspicious:

"According to the Cuba Archive Project, the Castro regime – with firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture and drownings at sea – has caused an estimated 102,000 Cuban deaths."

Elian Gonzales' mother was not killed by Castro, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy counts all the people who died trying to cross to Florida as having been killed. It's dishonest.

Sure, just ignore the spinach in your teeth. Nothing to see here. (Just more hatred by the right against my chosen sex object. I'm a Che fan because it seemed cool to the mindless minions I try so pathetically hard to impress). Just like a libertard; ignore the facts and substitute the fantasy I can live with. :rolleyes::vomit:

SaintLouieWoman
09-10-2011, 01:38 PM
I believe the premise of the piece is Bob Beckel is historically challenged. He regurgitates the liberal slant (as do many far out righties with their point of view). However, if anyone on either side is going to make their grand pronouncements, they sure in the hell ought to know at least a bit about what they're pontificating.

Beckel isn't the worst of the libs, but annoying. He's not as annoying as Alan Colmes, so I guess that's damning him by faint praise. :D

CueSi
09-10-2011, 09:41 PM
Meh, I just have a Che! t-shirt because I like the idea of pissing off some useless POC like lacarnut sitting in his girly pseudo sportscar .

BTW, in the category of questioning the source, I found this wording to be suspicious:

"According to the Cuba Archive Project, the Castro regime – with firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture and drownings at sea – has caused an estimated 102,000 Cuban deaths."

Elian Gonzales' mother was not killed by Castro, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy counts all the people who died trying to cross to Florida as having been killed. It's dishonest.

You can find far more creative ways to piss off the people on this forum. I trust you. :p

I don't know about idolizing Che, Nova. . .the guy was a racist homophobe.

Then again, I live in Miami. . .with the people who know the guy best in a way. He may not have caused 100K deaths, but he would have put you and I against the wall if we lived in his Cuba, so . . . Bob Beckel can kiss my black ass.

~QC

txradioguy
09-11-2011, 04:06 AM
I believe the premise of the piece is Bob Beckel is historically challenged. He regurgitates the liberal slant (as do many far out righties with their point of view). However, if anyone on either side is going to make their grand pronouncements, they sure in the hell ought to know at least a bit about what they're pontificating.

Beckel isn't the worst of the libs, but annoying. He's not as annoying as Alan Colmes, so I guess that's damning him by faint praise. :D

It seems that Beckel and Nova are both historically challenged.

Novaheart
09-11-2011, 10:14 AM
It seems that Beckel and Nova are both historically challenged.

Why? Because I question the methodology? I always do that, because people have a tendency to exaggerate, and authors have a tendency to fluff to make a point.

You know who responds like you do? The people at DU. When they put out some ridiculous statistic, like "Europeans murdered as many as 100 million native Americans." I used to call them on that bullshit. And they would accuse me of being stupid, ignorant, needing to read a book or attend some class they attended, racist, etc....

The bottom line is that because most of these authors are not bald faced liars, they use words and phrases which are tells that they are bullshitting or exaggerating. Sometimes, it's simply something that doesn't fit in the list. In this case, "drownings at sea" doesn't fit in the list with with "firing squads, forced-labor camps, torture."