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megimoo
09-17-2011, 02:00 PM
71-year-old Gullan Holmgren from Pite, in northern Sweden, is 'too old' for pain rehab, according to the pain rehabilitation unit at the local hospital that turned her away.

I might be over 70, but that doesn't mean I am dead yet, said an outraged Holmgren to The Local.

Holmgren, who has had chronic pain after an unsuccessful hip operation six years ago, sought help through her primary care provider, the local clinic in Pite where she lives.....After trying all sorts of pain relief to no avail, her doctor referred her to the pain rehabilitation unit at Sunderby Hospital.

Holmgren then waited to be called for an appointment but instead received a letter from her doctor telling her she had been turned down for treatment at the rehabilitation unit. The reason she was too old.

The rehabilitation unit at Sunderby Hospital is specialised to help chronic pain sufferers overcome their disabilities.....The staff work in specialised teams and the treatment is aimed at patients aged between 18 and 65 people of a "professional" age.

It makes me feel like if I am too old to work then I am not allowed help to cope with my pain, Holmgren said.
Holmgren's daughter, 37-year-old Linda, broke her leg earlier in the year and has since experienced the same chronic pain as her mother.

http://www.thelocal.se/36156/20110915/

lacarnut
09-17-2011, 03:49 PM
This kinda shit coming to the USA under Obama care. Idiot liberals like Nova think it can not happen here.

Starbuck
09-17-2011, 05:50 PM
It will happen here.

Christ!, how much could pain treatment be?! We're not talking surgery, I don't think.

I'll be 70 before very many years and Lacarnut is already there, I think................Sorta makes us take notice. And if you think it won't effect you, think of your mother...

lacarnut
09-17-2011, 07:14 PM
It will happen here.

Christ!, how much could pain treatment be?! We're not talking surgery, I don't think.

I'll be 70 before very many years and Lacarnut is already there, I think................Sorta makes us take notice. And if you think it won't effect you, think of your mother...

I am already there. Thank the Lord I have great health. Plus, I have the means to go outside the US to get medical care if I am denied coverage in this country.

My brother's general practitioner has decided to cut his practice from 5,000 to 600. It will cost him $1,500 per year to remain his doctor. In return, he will get a same day appointment and all tests (x-rays & blood work and minor surgery) will be included. So, no out of pocket expense to him. Doctors will find a way to make up for the Obamacare hit that is coming. Hospitals will probably do the same. In the long run, it may wind up that the poor get worse care cause government run anything can f... up a soup sandwich.

Novaheart
09-17-2011, 09:03 PM
This kinda shit coming to the USA under Obama care. Idiot liberals like Nova think it can not happen here.

Healthcare in the US is not universally available regardless of considerations simply because the technology is available. Age, health, finances, and location all affect your consideration for different therapies.

If you had read the article, you would see that the clinic in question is not a geriatric facility. There is a geriatric facility, but the woman in question lives in East Bumfuck Sweden and the facility is 200 KM away, a distance she finds inconvenient. You would also have read that the local hospital has committed to training staff for geriatric pain management of the sort the woman seeks.

In other words: yet another failure on your part to read and comprehend.

Novaheart
09-17-2011, 09:06 PM
It will happen here.

Christ!, how much could pain treatment be?! We're not talking surgery, I don't think.

I'll be 70 before very many years and Lacarnut is already there, I think................Sorta makes us take notice. And if you think it won't effect you, think of your mother...

It appears that the issue here is that the pain management clinic is not a geriatric facility. Geriatrics is an evolving speciality as is pain management. We're having a huge shake-up in Florida with the pain management clinics, because many of them are shaing out to pill mills. Doctors and patients are being arrested.

Starbuck
09-18-2011, 01:47 PM
It appears that the issue here is that the pain management clinic is not a geriatric facility. Geriatrics is an evolving speciality as is pain management. We're having a huge shake-up in Florida with the pain management clinics, because many of them are shaing out to pill mills. Doctors and patients are being arrested.
Boy, people just never get tired of ripping off the medical system, do they?

But another question arises: Does a 71 year old need to go to a geriatric facility? The answer to that is unknowable, of course, and would be answered in a case by case manner so I only ask the question rhetorically. But it is out there.:)

noonwitch
09-19-2011, 10:57 AM
It appears that the issue here is that the pain management clinic is not a geriatric facility. Geriatrics is an evolving speciality as is pain management. We're having a huge shake-up in Florida with the pain management clinics, because many of them are shaing out to pill mills. Doctors and patients are being arrested.



So the problem is not national health care, it's that doctors have become specialists and can only work with certain population groups with specific medical needs. That works in a big city where there are a lot of doctors, but not in smaller communities.

lacarnut
09-19-2011, 12:03 PM
Healthcare in the US is not universally available regardless of considerations simply because the technology is available. Age, health, finances, and location all affect your consideration for different therapies.

If you had read the article, you would see that the clinic in question is not a geriatric facility. There is a geriatric facility, but the woman in question lives in East Bumfuck Sweden and the facility is 200 KM away, a distance she finds inconvenient. You would also have read that the local hospital has committed to training staff for geriatric pain management of the sort the woman seeks.

In other words: yet another failure on your part to read and comprehend.

If you had read my post, it describes what is happening in the United States of America Today. I could care less what is happening in Sweden. Medical care in the EU is substandard. Under Obamacare, the same type of thing will happen here. A bureaucrat will determine whether or not your treatment is worth the cost of medical care based on age or treatment or services available. In many rural towns, doctors are few and far between so that may have to travel a hundred or two hundred miles. The patient in Sweden has to travel to get treatment. So what. Yearly Mammograms is an example for women under the age of 50. If you have Aids, you will die at home rather in the hospital cause it cost too much to keep your diseased ass there.

In other words, you are too stupid to realise that managed care and rationed care is coming to the US. It will not just affect the elderly but everyone will be put under this socialistic umbrella of Obamacare. Capiche. Tunnel-vision much.

ABC in Georgia
09-19-2011, 12:56 PM
In other words, you are too stupid to realise that managed care and rationed care is coming to the US. It will not just affect the elderly but everyone will be put under this socialistic umbrella of Obamacare. Capiche. Tunnel-vision much.

100% correct lacarnut!

I underlined your second sentence for emphasis.

Watched his "teleprompting" lies this morning and was yelling "LIAR! LIAR!" at the TV so much, I frightened the poor cat.

My loathing for this man has no equal.

~ ABC ...:vomit:

Novaheart
09-19-2011, 01:09 PM
In other words, you are too stupid to realise that managed care and rationed care is coming to the US. It will not just affect the elderly but everyone will be put under this socialistic umbrella of Obamacare. Capiche. Tunnel-vision much.

And I am telling you that managed care and rationed care is and has been in the US for some time.

Many factors are taken into consideration when a patient in the US is considered for certain therapies.

lacarnut
09-19-2011, 03:33 PM
And I am telling you that managed care and rationed care is and has been in the US for some time.



Not to the extent of other countries. I went to the Dr. this am and made an appointment for a Cat scan tomorrow. Try doing that in any country in the world and let me know when it is not an emergency. A month or two wait under any of these EU socialized countries would be the norm. This country has the best health care in the world. Canadians come here for it. You got to pay for it. Obama is going to fuck up our great medical system. Doctors will retire, leave the country or just see less patients which will create shortages of doctors. A mental midget like you should be able to see that but I guess not.

SaintLouieWoman
09-19-2011, 08:00 PM
Not to the extent of other countries. I went to the Dr. this am and made an appointment for a Cat scan tomorrow. Try doing that in any country in the world and let me know when it is not an emergency. A month or two wait under any of these EU socialized countries would be the norm. This country has the best health care in the world. Canadians come here for it. You got to pay for it. Obama is going to fuck up our great medical system. Doctors will retire, leave the country or just see less patients which will create shortages of doctors. A mental midget like you should be able to see that but I guess not.
The place where I'll go for physical therapy rehab after my surgery was the result of my surgeon's (and others) attempt to get a place for people coming primarily from Canada for orthoepidic surgery to stay while recovering, before they could travel home.

The surgery schedule this year has been very crowded as quite a few people are trying to get it done this year, afraid of what next year and Obamacare will bring.

ABC, agree with you, absolutely loathe the man! When his lips are moving, there are lies emerging. :rolleyes: I couldn't stand Jimmy Carter and not a big Bubba Clinton fan, but they both are real peaches next to the Annointed One.