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megimoo
09-18-2011, 06:52 AM
India has upped the ante against Chinese activities in Pakistan occupied Kashmir. A few months ago, when China sent a diplomatic protest (demarche) to India regarding proposed oil and gas exploration in the South China Sea off Vietnam, India had refused to entertain it. Instead, in its reply, India told China that it should stop its activities in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK). In fact, India has followed up its criticism with another strongly worded representation to China, issued a few weeks ago, asking it to stop its activities in PoK. India said Pakistan was in illegal occupation of that part...

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-16/india/30164512_1_stapled-visas-karakoram-highway-china-issues

Odysseus
09-18-2011, 10:00 AM
Now, will our government use this opportunity to warm up to India? A competent administration would.

AmPat
09-18-2011, 10:05 AM
Now, will our government use this opportunity to warm up to India? A competent administration would.

Our Incompetent-In-Chief hasn't gotten it right yet. The law of averages may hand him an accidental win.

DumbAss Tanker
09-18-2011, 02:44 PM
With Pakistan, India, and China all having competing interests, all being members of the nuclear club, and each necessary to us for different reasons, it would be an excellent time for him to shut up and stand on our official neutrality.

This of course means he will be irresistibly motivated to take sides, which if I had to guess at this point would be the Pakis, which offers us the least possible long-term benefit of the four possible courses of action.

CueSi
09-18-2011, 02:48 PM
Now, will our government use this opportunity to warm up to India? A competent administration would.

I think the only person who's warmed up to India has been Sarah Palin (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-first-trip-to-india-palin-talks-tough-on-china-other-topics/2011/03/19/ABTREYx_story.html). Man, we picked a brilliant lot, didn't we?:D

~QC

Novaheart
09-18-2011, 03:20 PM
With Pakistan, India, and China all having competing interests, all being members of the nuclear club, and each necessary to us for different reasons, it would be an excellent time for him to shut up and stand on our official neutrality.


Especially if this is theater orchestrated behind the scenes by India and China.

Novaheart
09-18-2011, 03:22 PM
I think the only person who's warmed up to India has been Sarah Palin (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-first-trip-to-india-palin-talks-tough-on-china-other-topics/2011/03/19/ABTREYx_story.html). Man, we picked a brilliant lot, didn't we?:D

~QC

I don't know where we get the idea that India is warmed up to or cold shouldered. India has transformed over the last 50 years from a post colonial society to a world player; relationships would necessarily change even if it's a bit shocking to deal with a demanding India.

And while India has some severe problems, when you consider the scale, it's a pretty remarkable country.

AmPat
09-18-2011, 03:30 PM
Especially if this is theater orchestrated behind the scenes by India and China.
Paranoid much?

I don't know where we get the idea that India is warmed up to or cold shouldered. India has transformed over the last 50 years from a post colonial society to a world player; relationships would necessarily change even if it's a bit shocking to deal with a demanding India.

And while India has some severe problems, when you consider the scale, it's a pretty remarkable country.

So's ours. I wonder when liberals, including our Dunce-In-Chief will acknowledge that?:confused::cool:

Odysseus
09-18-2011, 10:52 PM
I don't know where we get the idea that India is warmed up to or cold shouldered. India has transformed over the last 50 years from a post colonial society to a world player; relationships would necessarily change even if it's a bit shocking to deal with a demanding India.

And while India has some severe problems, when you consider the scale, it's a pretty remarkable country.

Yes, and it shares certain interests in common with the US. It is a democracy bordered by a hostile communist state on one side and an Islamic nuclear power on the other. It has been on the receiving end of Islamic imperialism for centuries and Islamic terrorism for the last sixty years.

An alliance with India simply makes sense, while continuing to empower China and Pakistan does not.

DumbAss Tanker
09-18-2011, 11:03 PM
Yes, and it shares certain interests in common with the US. It is a democracy bordered by a hostile communist state on one side and an Islamic nuclear power on the other. It has been on the receiving end of Islamic imperialism for centuries and Islamic terrorism for the last sixty years.

An alliance with India simply makes sense, while continuing to empower China and Pakistan does not.

The fact that their lingua franca is English doesn't hurt either. However, winning them over to us would be a protracted process, and due to our need to stay on the good side of Pakistan while we are still engaged in Afghanistan, as well as the shaky credibility of our current administration, I expect they'd view any major public overtures now as a puzzlement, and not to be taken seriously. Ah, for the days of secret codicils to treaties...