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bijou
09-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Combine high unemployment, a stagnant economy and basement-level housing prices, and what have you got?

The most miserable cities in America, according to Brookings, of course! The think tank combined every major U.S. city's unemployment rate, level of employment, gross metropolitan product and housing prices to create an index of utter wretchedness.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-miserable-cities-in-america-2011-9#ixzz1YbS85p60
See the list here (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-miserable-cities-in-america-2011-9)

ralph wiggum
09-21-2011, 12:06 PM
SR & SLW must not be pleased:

#6 Sarasota, Florida

Unemployment: up 4.2%

Employment: down 15.3%

Gross Metropolitan Product: down 9.1%

Home prices: down 55.4%

Employment, GMP and home prices measured from peak through Q2 2011. Unemployment measured from Q2 2008 through Q2 2011. Data provided by Brookings MetroMonitor.

Novaheart
09-21-2011, 12:23 PM
So this list has Detroit at #12, and yet I would rather live in any of the cities which are "more miserable" than Detroit.

Starbuck
09-21-2011, 12:28 PM
Man, ya really gotta feel for those cities where home values are down 50 and 60%! That's a lot of dreams and plans vanishing into thin air.

I could easily have been caught in all that. A few years back I was offered a 6 figure salary to move to California. You just never know what you are really getting or really turning down. We just lucked out, is all.:)

noonwitch
09-21-2011, 12:50 PM
So this list has Detroit at #12, and yet I would rather live in any of the cities which are "more miserable" than Detroit.



It doesn't help when they show a picture of an abandoned factory to represent Detroit, yet show happy seniors in their Florida pictures, or showgirls in Vegas, football games in one city, or Disney Princesses to represent Orlando.


We don't have Vegas showgirls, or Disney Princesses, but we do have professional athletic teams with nice stadiums and dancers from the titty bars!

megimoo
09-21-2011, 01:17 PM
It doesn't help when they show a picture of an abandoned factory to represent Detroit, yet show happy seniors in their Florida pictures, or showgirls in Vegas, football games in one city, or Disney Princesses to represent Orlando.


We don't have Vegas showgirls, or Disney Princesses, but we do have professional athletic teams with nice stadiums and dancers from the titty bars!.......Are you big into titty bars ?

noonwitch
09-21-2011, 01:47 PM
.......Are you big into titty bars ?



Not as much as you are into prison rape fantasies.

lacarnut
09-21-2011, 02:07 PM
The author must have turned a blind eye to cities in the northeast such as Camden NJ and Baltimore MD. In fact, any city/state that has extreme cold weather, sky high property taxes, high local, state taxes and high cost of living expenses would be miserable to me.

Constitutionally Speaking
09-23-2011, 06:26 AM
I have to step in and defend Detroit here for a second. YES it is true that some of the areas in Detroit are run down, but it is no different than any other Democrat run big city. In fact, I've been in far worse areas of Chicago than I have in Detroit.

djones520
09-23-2011, 06:31 AM
I have to step in and defend Detroit here for a second. YES it is true that some of the areas in Detroit are run down, but it is no different than any other Democrat run big city. In fact, I've been in far worse areas of Chicago than I have in Detroit.

Same for St. Louis. I've been to the bad parts of Detroit. But there are places in this area I will NOT go into.

noonwitch
09-23-2011, 09:03 AM
The thing about Detroit is this: it's not really a dangerous place for white people to visit. The areas by the stadiums or casinos (most of Downtown) are very well patrolled by cops. So is Mexicantown. But even in the worst parts of town, most of the crime victims are black, as are most of the perps.



There are still some nice residential areas, but they are few and far between. I moved to Warren in 2001, and shortly after that, the state passed a law that stated cities and municipalities could no longer force their employees to live within their geographical limits. All the cops and other city employees moved out.

Novaheart
09-23-2011, 10:27 AM
It doesn't help when they show a picture of an abandoned factory to represent Detroit, yet show happy seniors in their Florida pictures, or showgirls in Vegas, football games in one city, or Disney Princesses to represent Orlando.


We don't have Vegas showgirls, or Disney Princesses, but we do have professional athletic teams with nice stadiums and dancers from the titty bars!

I have never been to Detroit. I understand that like many of the old industrial cities, it has some very nice residential sections and some urban renewal areas that are quite impressive. My disdain for the city and region is largely founded in the weather, because without good weather the rest of Detroit's problems simply aren't worth putting up with.

To a lesser degree San Francisco is the same way. A large portion of San Francisco is a crime ridden and filthy human dump, but the relatively good weather and beauty from certain angles redeem the city, especially if you can afford to live in or hang out in the Castro, Noe Valley, Haight (for the hipness) , or Pacific Heights.

Novaheart
09-23-2011, 10:29 AM
The thing about Detroit is this: it's not really a dangerous place for white people to visit. The areas by the stadiums or casinos (most of Downtown) are very well patrolled by cops. So is Mexicantown. But even in the worst parts of town, most of the crime victims are black, as are most of the perps.



There are still some nice residential areas, but they are few and far between. I moved to Warren in 2001, and shortly after that, the state passed a law that stated cities and municipalities could no longer force their employees to live within their geographical limits. All the cops and other city employees moved out.

Fun fact to know and tell, did you know that the westernmost point of Virginia is west of Detroit ?

Tipsycatlover
09-23-2011, 02:32 PM
Las Vegas is #1!

I could have told them that. There is nothing wrong with Vegas that turning it back over to the mob to run wouldn't fix.

noonwitch
09-23-2011, 03:19 PM
Las Vegas is #1!

I could have told them that. There is nothing wrong with Vegas that turning it back over to the mob to run wouldn't fix.

You are hilarious!

SaintLouieWoman
09-23-2011, 03:29 PM
Same for St. Louis. I've been to the bad parts of Detroit. But there are places in this area I will NOT go into.
Are you talking E St Louis? There are some really bad parts of St Louis (in the hood) that I'd never enter. When I was working as an outside sales rep there, I'd have customers from the bad areas come to my office. I made up excuses why I wouldn't go to their office, but I'm sure that they understood. :D

How ironic, move to "paradise", take a hit on my house in St Louis (but nothing like the hits down here), get this place that has taken another hit, but the assessor is raising the value to get more taxes to pay for stuff like a $12.5 million comples in the Sarasota small "hood".

So after all this, managed to move from an area not even showing in the top 21 list of "miserable" cities to #6 in the misery index. Now maybe folks will understand why I don't buy lottery tickets or gamble. :p

SarasotaRepub
09-23-2011, 04:34 PM
SR & SLW must not be pleased:

#6 Sarasota, Florida

Unemployment: up 4.2%

Employment: down 15.3%

Gross Metropolitan Product: down 9.1%

Home prices: down 55.4%

Employment, GMP and home prices measured from peak through Q2 2011. Unemployment measured from Q2 2008 through Q2 2011. Data provided by Brookings MetroMonitor.


Hell, I'm just fine being miserable here! :p:D Especially wait till January...

Novaheart
09-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Las Vegas is #1!

I could have told them that. There is nothing wrong with Vegas that turning it back over to the mob to run wouldn't fix.

There isn't much wrong with any given city that a bulldozer can't fix.


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