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Rockntractor
10-06-2011, 11:39 PM
Zuccotti Park Owners: Sanitation Becoming A Problem, Quit Hogging The Place
October 6, 2011 9:34 PM
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly had some strong words for “Occupy Wall Street” protesters Thursday, blaming participants for starting skirmishes which led to more than 20 arrests on Wednesday.

“What they did is they counted. They actually had a countdown — 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 — they grouped together, they joined arms and they charged the police. They attacked the police. They wanted to get into Wall Street, they wanted to occupy Wall Street,” Kelly told reporters.

Police arrested 28 people Wednesday — mostly for disorderly conduct. There was at least one arrest for assaulting a police officer and police said one protester even knocked an officer off his scooter.

Kelly said that if demonstrators targeted the police, authorities would respond with “force.”

“They’re going to be met with force when they do that — this is just common sense,” he said.

The commissioner said protesters were told to stay within the barricades that police had erected and when they crossed over them they began hassling the cops.

“These people wanted to have confrontation with the police for whatever reason. Somehow, I guess it works to their purposes,” Kelly said.


The commissioner told reporters that the protests have cost the city about $2 million in overtime for officers assigned to cover the demonstrations.

Despite the clashes and arrests, Kelly stressed that as long as protesters followed the rules, there would be no issues.

“We are accommodating peaceful protests. We are proud of the fact that we do that in this city. People are going to be here for an extended period of time. We’re going to accommodate them as long as they do it peacefully and in accordance with the laws and regulations,” he said.

The problem for the city and the police is even if they wanted to, they can’t evict “Occupy Wall Street” as long as they make Zuccotti Park their headquarters. It is private space that must be opened to the public

“The charter, it gives access to the park 24 hours a day, seven says a week,” Kelly said.

When asked by CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer if there was an end game, his response was carefully considered.

“You know, we’ll see. Right now they’re on private property and people who own that property don’t have the power to eject them,” he said.

But Brookfield Office Properties, which owns Zuccotti Park, seems to be slowly building a case against protesters, saying Thursday that the protestors are interfering with the use of the park by others and are creating sanitary problems.

“Sanitation is a growing concern,” Brookfield said in a statement. “Normally the park is cleaned and inspected every weeknight. . . because the protestors refuse to cooperate. . .the park has not been cleaned since Friday, September 16th and as a result, sanitary conditions have reached unacceptable levels.”
video at link>http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/06/kelly-protesters-to-be-met-with-force-if-they-target-officers/

Constitutionally Speaking
10-07-2011, 06:47 AM
video at link>http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/06/kelly-protesters-to-be-met-with-force-if-they-target-officers/


Anyone else have a problem with the fact that the OWNERS of Zuccotti park cannot evict the protestors without going through a ton of red ink?

The protestors have taken over PRIVATE PROPERTY .

Molon Labe
10-07-2011, 07:46 AM
Anyone else have a problem with the fact that the OWNERS of Zuccotti park cannot evict the protestors without going through a ton of red ink?

The protestors have taken over PRIVATE PROPERTY .

I think that's one of the aims.

Zathras
10-07-2011, 03:04 PM
Anyone else have a problem with the fact that the OWNERS of Zuccotti park cannot evict the protestors without going through a ton of red ink?

The protestors have taken over PRIVATE PROPERTY .

I wonder if these idiots even know that it's privately owned and not city property.

fettpett
10-07-2011, 03:41 PM
I wonder if these idiots even know that it's privately owned and not city property.

they most likely don't give a shit

Elspeth
10-07-2011, 03:44 PM
Who owns the park?

You know these tools renamed it "Liberty Park", and I'm sure the owners love that.

fettpett
10-07-2011, 03:54 PM
Who owns the park?

You know these tools renamed it "Liberty Park", and I'm sure the owners love that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuccotti_Park

actually use to be called Liberty Plaza Park...my guess is that they took it over on purpose because it's "owned by a greedy corporation" Brookfield Office Properties

Elspeth
10-07-2011, 04:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuccotti_Park

actually use to be called Liberty Plaza Park...my guess is that they took it over on purpose because it's "owned by a greedy corporation" Brookfield Office Properties

Thanks for the info. I am still confused on the actual status of ownership though:

According to Wikipedia:


Because Zuccotti Park is not a publicly owned space, it is not subject to ordinary public park curfew. New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said on September 28, 2011 that the NYPD could not bar protesters from Zuccotti Park since it is a public plaza that is required to stay open 24 hours a day. "In building this plaza, there was an agreement it be open 24 hours a day," Kelly said. "The owners have put out regulations [about what's allowed in park]. The owners will have to come in and direct people not to do certain things." A spokesperson for Brookfield Properties, the owner of the park, expressed concern: "Zuccotti Park is intended for the use and enjoyment of the general public for passive recreation. We are extremely concerned with the conditions that have been created by those currently occupying the park and are actively working with the City of New York to address these conditions and restore the park to its intended purpose."[11]

Bailey
10-07-2011, 04:35 PM
I would pay real money to watch the NYPD to go in and clear that nest of scum bags. I would Tee - hee watching them crack some hippie skulls.

fettpett
10-07-2011, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the info. I am still confused on the actual status of ownership though:

According to Wikipedia:

it's privately owned but they had to sign an agreement saying that by owning it they had to let it be open 24hrs/day and give public access

DumbAss Tanker
10-09-2011, 10:20 AM
Anyone else have a problem with the fact that the OWNERS of Zuccotti park cannot evict the protestors without going through a ton of red ink?

The protestors have taken over PRIVATE PROPERTY .

I get the impression the owners are kind of playing both sides of the street, I believe the property company traces back to Obamites and they are treating the pissed-off local population with a Broadway production of "Oh, my, but whatever are we to do???"

Anytime Bloomberg wants, he could just jump to having the site declared a public nuisance due to sanitation and damage issues and close it down, or the owners could file trespass charges on anyone (Everyone) violating the posted park terms of use like 'No tents.'

My sense of it is Bloomberg is waiting for the weather to turn shitty instead of taking a PR hit for acting directly, and the owners of the park are actually following the White House's lead on letting this circus act run until Obama gets his jobs bill passed (Or doesn't, at which point they will still be useful props for him).

djones520
10-09-2011, 10:23 AM
I get the impression the owners are kind of playing both sides of the street, I believe the property company traces back to Obamites and they are treating the pissed-off local population with a Broadway production of "Oh, my, but whatever are we to do???"

Anytime Bloomberg wants, he could just jump to having the site declared a public nuisance due to sanitation and damage issues and close it down, or the owners could file trespass charges on anyone (Everyone) violating the posted park terms of use like 'No tents.'

My sense of it is Bloomberg is waiting for the weather to turn shitty instead of taking a PR hit for acting directly, and the owners of the park are actually following the White House's lead on letting this circus act run until Obama gets his jobs bill passed (Or doesn't, at which point they will still be useful props for him).

I wouldn't count on weather anytime soon, unfortunately.

Tipsycatlover
10-12-2011, 11:41 AM
You just KNOW the owners are going to send the clean and restore bill to the City. I don't think the weather will help clear it out. The parasitic class will just demand heaters.

Disease will clear it out faster than cold weather. These idiots are urinating and defectating in the park and then having sex in the mud they made. These are the educated college kids who want jobs.

noonwitch
10-12-2011, 04:04 PM
Disease will clear it out faster than cold weather. These idiots are urinating and defectating in the park and then having sex in the mud they made. These are the educated college kids who want jobs.




All of that falls under the category of disturbing the peace, which can occur on private or public property. NYPD can arrest them when they do that kind of thing, they just can't arrest them for loitering.

Tipsycatlover
10-13-2011, 11:20 AM
Whether or NOT it is disturbing the peace, THIS is the level of intelligence displayed by these college educated people who can't find a job. Really, oh no WONDER they can't find a job.

In any case, they now have to go.

Unless the parasitic class decides to fight over it.

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/c ... ti-park-fr

Bloomberg tells Occupy Wall Street protesters to clear Zuccotti Park by Friday
Michael Bloomberg
By Azi Paybarah

Wall Street may not be occupied for much longer.

Two days after Mayor Michael Bloomberg said protesters could stay in Zuccotti Park "indefinitely" if they followed the law, the mayor visited them tonight to say they had to be out of there by Friday, according to the mayor's office. The reason given by the mayor tonight was that the park needs to be cleaned.

The request to clean the park is coming from the company that owns it, Brookfield Office Properties, on whose behalf the chief executive wrote a two-page letter to the NYPD asking for help "to clear the Park" and to "assist" on an "ongoing basis" to keep the area safe and clean.

In the Oct. 11 letter to NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly, Brookfield's C.E.O., Richard B. Clark, said the four-week old "trespassing of the protesters" has created "a health and public safety issue that must be addressed immediately."

Odysseus
10-13-2011, 01:08 PM
Anyone else have a problem with the fact that the OWNERS of Zuccotti park cannot evict the protestors without going through a ton of red ink?

The protestors have taken over PRIVATE PROPERTY .
So, when Bloomberg told them that they could stay so long as they obeyed the law, he forgot that trespassing was illegal?

they most likely don't give a shit

Sure they do. Haven't you seen the photo of the guy crapping on the police care? In fact, that may be the only thing that they are capable of giving. http://1389blog.com/pix/Stinky.gif