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namvet
10-09-2011, 09:36 AM
another bow wow??? we're sorry we killed your jihadists son.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/sami_paints_target_on_self.jpg


An official from the U.S. State Department has called the Charlotte family of al-Qaida propagandist Samir Khan to offer the government's condolences on his death in a U.S. drone attack last week in Yemen, according to a family spokesman.

"They were very apologetic (for not calling the family sooner) and offered condolences," Jibril Hough said about the Thursday call from the State Department to Khan's father, Zafar.



Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/07/2673163/us-state-dept-contacts-khan-family.html#ixzz1aI7IEib0

DumbAss Tanker
10-09-2011, 10:11 AM
Condolences? Man, that's just messed up.

djones520
10-09-2011, 10:15 AM
Condolences? Man, that's just messed up.

This is a sticky issue. The guy was a terrorist, he had to go, no question about it.

But the government did sanction killing a US Citizen, their son, whom from all reports they seemed to try to turn him from the path he walked.

My initial reaction at this was WTF. But as I think about it a bit more, I can get behind this given the circumstances of the situation. I wouldn't apologize over killing him. I'd just be offering my condolences for their loss. Scumbag or not, he was still their son, and their own government killed him.

Rockntractor
10-09-2011, 10:22 AM
This is a sticky issue. The guy was a terrorist, he had to go, no question about it.

But the government did sanction killing a US Citizen, their son, whom from all reports they seemed to try to turn him from the path he walked.

My initial reaction at this was WTF. But as I think about it a bit more, I can get behind this given the circumstances of the situation. I wouldn't apologize over killing him. I'd just be offering my condolences for their loss. Scumbag or not, he was still their son, and their own government killed him.

No surprise.

djones520
10-09-2011, 10:25 AM
No surprise.

Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?

Or is your heart so cold you can't feel sympathy for those who lost here?

marv
10-09-2011, 10:36 AM
...and let's not forget...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/209677.php



http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/protester%20craps%20on%20car.jpg

namvet
10-09-2011, 10:52 AM
...and let's not forget...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/209677.php



http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/protester%20craps%20on%20car.jpg


no toliet paper now what???

namvet
10-09-2011, 11:10 AM
This is a sticky issue. The guy was a terrorist, he had to go, no question about it.

But the government did sanction killing a US Citizen, their son, whom from all reports they seemed to try to turn him from the path he walked.

My initial reaction at this was WTF. But as I think about it a bit more, I can get behind this given the circumstances of the situation. I wouldn't apologize over killing him. I'd just be offering my condolences for their loss. Scumbag or not, he was still their son, and their own government killed him.

what goes around comes around. he was killed in a foreign country applying his trade to kill us. if him and his bud's succeed in killing american's here or anywhere do we apologize to their families??? hell no. how do we know he didn't renounce his citizenship??? fuck his family.

Rockntractor
10-09-2011, 11:45 AM
Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?

Or is your heart so cold you can't feel sympathy for those who lost here?

No let's not put me in the parents place, I'm not of a religion that sends it's children to be suicide bombers, you drip with PC.

Speedy
10-09-2011, 12:46 PM
Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?

Or is your heart so cold you can't feel sympathy for those who lost here?

If anything, it was al Qaeda's place to offer condolences to the parents. The insurgents have never apologized for killing any Americans before.

DumbAss Tanker
10-09-2011, 02:24 PM
The Oministration would be better off to remember these words and apply them to the condolence issue: "Better to close your mouth and chance being thought an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt."

noonwitch
10-10-2011, 08:54 AM
This is a sticky issue. The guy was a terrorist, he had to go, no question about it.

But the government did sanction killing a US Citizen, their son, whom from all reports they seemed to try to turn him from the path he walked.

My initial reaction at this was WTF. But as I think about it a bit more, I can get behind this given the circumstances of the situation. I wouldn't apologize over killing him. I'd just be offering my condolences for their loss. Scumbag or not, he was still their son, and their own government killed him.



The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.

namvet
10-10-2011, 08:56 AM
The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.

I wouldn't say every parent. many are glad be rid of their off springs.

Lager
10-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Wow, I wonder if any government entities apologize to the parents of convicted killers executed in the prison system.

noworries
10-10-2011, 11:55 PM
The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.

I agree no parent should have to face that kind of pain

txradioguy
10-11-2011, 04:48 AM
Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?


If it were me...there wouldn't be any loss from the death of a child. My son or daughter turns their back on this country and takes up arms and aids and abets people murdering Americans...they cease becoming anyone I claim as one of my children. Their death would mean as much to me as some animal laying dead on the side of the road.

Witmaster
10-12-2011, 01:11 AM
Wow, I wonder if any government entities apologize to the parents of convicted killers executed in the prison system.


I was thinking the same thing. What about criminals who, in the course of violent crimes, are killed by law enforcement?

I don't know the parents of this tool. I'd like to think they were utterly shocked and dismayed at his decision to join a terrorist group. From what I've read, they tried to talk him out of it. Regardless, just as if their son were killed during the commission of a violent crime, getting killed while bearing arms against U.S. Troops shouldn't be a shock to them.

This hardly warrants an "apology" but, I can see extending condolences. It's bad enough to know your son is a terrorist, then to learn he's been killed. It's gotta be rough.

Like I said, I don't know his parents or anything about them.

Tipsycatlover
10-12-2011, 09:34 AM
This is absolutely appalling! If this does not give ample evidence that this regime is anti American, nothing will.

Tipsycatlover
10-12-2011, 11:49 AM
The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.

No they weren't American Citizens. Khan was a citizen by virtue of naturalization. Like MANY other terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Khan

Khan was born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia to parents of Pakistani descent and grew up in Queens, New York. [5][6] He also spent some of his teenage years living in Westbury, New York.[7] He graduated from W. Tresper Clarke High School in 2003 where he wrote for the school newspaper.[7] According to his classmates he refused to recite Pledge of Allegiance and blamed Americans for the September 11 attacks.[8] Khan's father, Zafar Khan, is an information technology executive. The family moved to Charlotte, North Carolina in 2004.[9] There he attended Central Piedmont Community College.[10]

The parents in NOW claiming to oppose the radicalization of their son is unbelievable. I know that this is about all they could say, it's not like they could come out and agree with him is it?

Witmaster
10-12-2011, 01:03 PM
And while we're busy re-applying our chap-stick to our chaffed lips after kissing the terrorists asses, why not apologize to Japan for ending WWII.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587698/201110111829/Apologies-Not-Accepted.htm

DumbAss Tanker
10-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Even MORE messed-up!

:mad:

Odysseus
10-16-2011, 09:19 PM
Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?

Or is your heart so cold you can't feel sympathy for those who lost here?
My sympathy is reserved for the victims of al Qaeda. The people who went to work in the WTC on 9/11 and never came home and the families that mourn them, for example. Or the parents of children who were killed in suicide bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan and every other place that terrorists have targeted the weakest and most vulnerable to further their sick agenda. Or the little girls who were maimed with acid thrown in their faces for the crime of seeking an education, or... I could go on for days. Do I think that his parents deserve to mourn their child? Sure, why not? But it is not our government's place to mourn with them. He chose treason and jihad, and we chose to survive. The two choices were mutually exclusive, and the Predator drone settled the issue decisively.

The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.
Really? Then why do so many of them in the Middle East raise their children to martyr themselves? Why do they teach them that the highest calling is dying in the service of the jihad, and that dying while killing Jews or Christians (or the "wrong" kind of Muslim) is preferable to life? Parents who love their children don't turn them into bombs, and American citizens whose children betray America have a choice, to either support their nation or their child. If they support America, no condolences are necessary, and if they support their treasonous whelp, then they aren't appropriate.

I agree no parent should have to face that kind of pain
And our government shouldn't be forced to inflict it. But as long as their son chose the path of treason, we had no choice.

Tipsycatlover
10-17-2011, 12:27 PM
You are assuming that the parents are in pain. They are no doubt, according to their culture, bursting with pride. However, if it could get them a point or two, they will put on a cry-face for the Americans.

noworries
10-17-2011, 09:56 PM
And our government shouldn't be forced to inflict it. But as long as their son chose the path of treason, we had no choice.[/QUOTE]

Very true I never thought about it that way

Odysseus
10-17-2011, 11:00 PM
Very true I never thought about it that way

There is a phenomena in law-enforcement called "suicide by cop", in which a perp creates a situation, usually involving hostages, where the police are forced to kill him in order to prevent him from taking someone else's life. This happens because the perp wants to die, but lacks the will to pull the trigger, and so puts the police in the position of having to kill him. The results are always bad for the officer involved, as they have to live with the taking of a life and go through the various departmental investigations, not to mention the harassment from those "community activist" types who invariably blame the police for everything that goes wrong in that kind of situation. There are very few of us in the armed forces who get off on killing, and those who do are removed from it as quickly as possible. We do it because if we don't, then worse things will happen to those that we love and want to protect. Expressing sympathy to the parents of a killer of Americans, a traitor and an enabler of evil, sends a message that our government is more concerned about the feelings of the parents of a traitor than they are about the men and women who were endangered by that traitor.