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marv
11-01-2011, 12:35 PM
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/31/the-99-official-list-of-ows/
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All entries on this list are real and verified. Below each entry you will find a series of source links documenting the support for OWS. We have striven in almost all cases to reference either first-hand statements by the groups or individuals themselves, hosted on their own Web sites; or videos of the people in question voicing their support for OWS at various Occupations; or news reports from reliable mainstream networks; or articles by publications or organizations sympathetic to the Occupy movement; or indisputable evidence, whatever the source. As a result, it cannot be claimed that these statements of support were made up or distorted by detractors of the Occupy movement.

As each new controversial endorsement has appeared over the last month, OWS supporters have dismissed them one by one as “isolated examples” that don’t reflect any overall trend toward extremism. But when viewed in aggregate like this, it becomes much more difficult to dismiss any individual endorsement as an aberration; instead, an undeniable pattern emerges.

This list is obviously incomplete; we hope to update it over the upcoming days and weeks.

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The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers

Communist Party USA
Sources:
Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller

American Nazi Party
Sources:
Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News

Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran
Sources:
The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News

Barack Obama
Sources:
ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York

The government of North Korea
Sources:
Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India

Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam
Sources:
video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly

Revolutionary Communist Party
Sources:
Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance

David Duke
Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com

Joe Biden
Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones

Hugo Chavez
Sources:
Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com

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...and the list goes on and on. Visit the list.

Lanie
11-01-2011, 11:22 PM
Thing is if you put all these people and groups together, how many people can you possibly get? I heard once that the ISO only has about two thousand nationwide.

Now, how many protesters do we have for OWS?

http://www.care2.com/causes/occupy-wall-street-numbers-swell-during-global-day-of-change.html


On Saturday, over 6,000 protesters from all five of New York’s boroughs flooded the subways to converge on Times Square in the largest single showing since the beginning of the movement.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/occupy-wall-street-numbers-swell-during-global-day-of-change.html#ixzz1cVule000

That's just NYC.

I really doubt all those communists are up in the NYC area. Even if they were, whose protesting in the other states?

Guess what else?

http://www.fa-mag.com/component/content/article/29-evan-simonoff-fa-blog/9004-many-millionaires-give-occupy-wall-street-protesters-buffett-credibility.html


Surprise, surprise. Even if the Occupy Wall Street protesters find it challenging to articulate precisely what they want, 35% of millionaires surveyed by Spectrem Group say they are making "a good and valid point."

Millionaires are starting to agree with them to a point. Are they all a bunch of communists?


What explains the sympathy with the protesters? Most millionaires are professionals or small business owners, not Wall Street investment bankers and derivative traders. The Great Recession has caused serious pain for small businesses and many doctors and lawyers, and many of them blame the Wall Streeters who got bailed out just like the protesters do.


You know what? I agree with them.

I can understand bailing out the main banks to save our economy, but the constant bail outs of banks which hurt home owners and small business owners is unacceptable.


When it comes to raising taxes on the rich, millionaire investors recognize the need for it and seem resigned to it. Spectrem research reveals that fully 67% believe that raising taxes on those earning more than $1 million a year would improve the economic situation.

However, unlike some politicians, millionaires realize there is a huge difference between earning $250,000 a year and $1 million or more a year. Only 45% think raising taxes on individuals earning $250,000 would improve the economy.


So there's one of the problems, defining rich as really nothing more than middle class.

Question. Are those 67% of millionaire investors that they researched communist?

So yes, a number of traditionally socialist groups might be supporting this movement, but they really don't make up this many in numbers. I think the majority of these people are people who think that the rich have gotten too much at their expense. I'm sorry, but why the crap are banks being bailed out like that? Where are Republicans and the Tea Party then? Nowhere to be found. It appears that some of these banks are allowed to live on welfare.

Tipsycatlover
11-03-2011, 08:01 AM
The rich have gotten nothing at the expense of anyone else. If the bail out of banks has hurt taxpayers and small businesses, certainly the bail out of welfare recipients for years has hurt even worse. The banks at least perform a service, aside from getting drugged out and having those money making babies, what do welfare queens do?

jediab
11-03-2011, 09:38 AM
The rich have gotten nothing at the expense of anyone else. If the bail out of banks has hurt taxpayers and small businesses, certainly the bail out of welfare recipients for years has hurt even worse. The banks at least perform a service, aside from getting drugged out and having those money making babies, what do welfare queens do?

Provide more democrat voters.

marv
11-03-2011, 09:40 AM
The rich have gotten nothing at the expense of anyone else. If the bail out of banks has hurt taxpayers and small businesses, certainly the bail out of welfare recipients for years has hurt even worse. The banks at least perform a service, aside from getting drugged out and having those money making babies, what do welfare queens do?

Since the dawn of Johnson's "War on Poverty" in 1964, the number of impoverished in this nation has increased....so much for bailouts of any sort.

Lanie
11-03-2011, 12:19 PM
The rich have gotten nothing at the expense of anyone else. If the bail out of banks has hurt taxpayers and small businesses, certainly the bail out of welfare recipients for years has hurt even worse. The banks at least perform a service, aside from getting drugged out and having those money making babies, what do welfare queens do?

Those "welfare queens" are human beings. Most of them are single mothers and welfare only lasts for five years. The idea of living off of welfare is over.

A lot of people on welfare lack the basic skills to come into or to succeed in the workforce.
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/rb/RB_499HJRB.pdf


Almost one in four American adults has very low basic
skills. This means that they are generally unable to follow
simple written directions for performing a single mathematical operation using numbers easily located in the text.


As might be expected, the basic skills of welfare recipients are lower than those of the general adult population,
and the skills of people heavily dependent on welfare (welfare recipients who did not work in the year preceding the
survey) are even lower

http://www.ncsall.net/fileadmin/resources/research/welfare.pdf


Using
the NALS we find that 76 percent of TANF recipients in the U.S. are at the lowest two
levels of literacy. In contrast, almost two-thirds of all employed adults in the U.S. have
literacy levels 3 and higher.
Even service sector jobs, reputed to be low skilled, often require more language
and math skills than TANF recipients possess. Employers typically require their
workers to speak and read English proficiently and to be able to do basic math. Much
evidence suggests that these skills are becoming increasingly important in the labor
market: Employers screen for basic skills when hiring for almost one-third of all jobs in
the United States. Low skills make it hard to find a job and even harder to find one that
pays well.


So I think instead of condemning them as lazy, we should be assisting them with obtaining basic skills so they can enter the workforce. I just realized something. I'm rich.

As for the banks providing a service, they often have. They've also often made out loans to people they knew couldn't pay them. Instead of renegotiating the payment plan with them, they had the government bail them out so they could sell the house for a thousand or so dollars. They've done some good, but they've also done harm. I don't think that harm should be ignored.

As for what welfare recipients do, most of them are mothers. Being a mother is actually a very important job.

Hansel
11-03-2011, 12:36 PM
Those "welfare queens" are human beings. Most of them are single mothers and welfare only lasts for five years. The idea of living off of welfare is over.

A lot of people on welfare lack the basic skills to come into or to succeed in the workforce.
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/rb/RB_499HJRB.pdf





http://www.ncsall.net/fileadmin/resources/research/welfare.pdf



So I think instead of condemning them as lazy, we should be assisting them with obtaining basic skills so they can enter the workforce. I just realized something. I'm rich.

As for the banks providing a service, they often have. They've also often made out loans to people they knew couldn't pay them. Instead of renegotiating the payment plan with them, they had the government bail them out so they could sell the house for a thousand or so dollars. They've done some good, but they've also done harm. I don't think that harm should be ignored.

As for what welfare recipients do, most of them are mothers. Being a mother is actually a very important job.
Why didn't these people learn basic arithmetic and to read and write while they were in grades K thru 12 of school? Or did they go to school just for the free lunches?

marv
11-03-2011, 01:03 PM
A lot of people on welfare lack the basic skills to come into or to succeed in the workforce.
Well, so much for the most expensive K-12 public education per student in the world.


So I think instead of condemning them as lazy, we should be assisting them with obtaining basic skills so they can enter the workforce.
...see above...


As for what welfare recipients do, most of them are mothers. Being a mother is actually a very important job.
As I recall, it's generally a CHOICE! But the important part is not BEING a mother, but being able to RAISE a child after making the choice, for better or worse, to have it.