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Zafod
11-10-2011, 01:27 PM
Im down 7 pounds.

all while eating bacon and eggs and burger patties and steak and bacon and more bacon and did I mention the bacon?

Odysseus
11-13-2011, 02:20 AM
Im down 7 pounds.

all while eating bacon and eggs and burger patties and steak and bacon and more bacon and did I mention the bacon?

Zero carbs? Been there, done that, but watch your cholesterol and liver function.

Zafod
11-14-2011, 10:08 AM
Zero carbs? Been there, done that, but watch your cholesterol and liver function.

Not zero carbs. Just low carbs. I still take 3 table spoons of fiber a day and every 6th and 7th day is a carb up day. This is the best way to lose fat and still keep muscle. No cardio bunny bull shit. Just heavy weight throwing and complex movements and i burn about 800 cals in a hour vs a cardio bunny running their ass off.......

Zafod
11-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Oh and it has been proven that dietary cholesterol has little to no impact on your total cholesterol levels.....

Zafod
11-14-2011, 10:10 AM
Now insulin spikes do. Like what vegietardians have going for them all the damm time lol

Odysseus
11-14-2011, 12:38 PM
Oh and it has been proven that dietary cholesterol has little to no impact on your total cholesterol levels.....
Cool. Pass the bacon. :D

Now insulin spikes do. Like what vegietardians have going for them all the damm time lol

Vegetarians always crack me up, especially Vegans. In order to get the required nutrients, they end up consuming so many supplements that they negate any value from their diet. They might as well be eating sand for all the good that they get from their diet.

Powerlifter181
01-13-2012, 01:34 AM
Whyd you choose Cyclical Keto over Targeted Keto?

Novaheart
01-13-2012, 01:43 AM
Cool. Pass the bacon. :D


Vegetarians always crack me up, especially Vegans. In order to get the required nutrients, they end up consuming so many supplements that they negate any value from their diet. They might as well be eating sand for all the good that they get from their diet.

http://horsebreedslist.com/horse_breed_images/83/big/shire-picture-6.jpg vegetarian

noonwitch
01-13-2012, 11:56 AM
"Cutting Cycle" means a whole different thing in the field of social work, especially social work with teenaged foster girls.

Hawkgirl
01-13-2012, 12:11 PM
Im down 7 pounds.

all while eating bacon and eggs and burger patties and steak and bacon and more bacon and did I mention the bacon?

Is this the 5 day atkins and two days carbs diet you spoke about in another thread?

Odysseus
01-13-2012, 05:52 PM
http://horsebreedslist.com/horse_breed_images/83/big/shire-picture-6.jpg vegetarian
http://i.pbase.com/g3/27/613727/2/56819062.HORSESASS.jpg
Novaheart.


A horse isn't a vegetarian, it's an herbivore. There's a difference. Herbivores are biologically programmed to get all of their nutritional requirements from that diet. Vegetarians are people who have chosen to restrict their diets for aesthetic reason, but people are omnivores. We cannot get all of the nutrients that we need from the dietary restrictions that Vegans impose on themselves and seek to impose on others.

Starbuck
01-14-2012, 12:08 AM
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/f/fat_cow-12290.bmp

Vegetarian? Herbivore? Who cares?:confused:

Zafod
01-18-2012, 06:24 PM
Is this the 5 day atkins and two days carbs diet you spoke about in another thread?

yes

Zafod
01-18-2012, 06:26 PM
Whyd you choose Cyclical Keto over Targeted Keto?

Im off it now. Started Wendler 531 and cant make gains without carbs. lol
strength is way up and I am maintaining at 4500 cals a day

fettpett
01-18-2012, 07:37 PM
http://i.pbase.com/g3/27/613727/2/56819062.HORSESASS.jpg
Novaheart.


A horse isn't a vegetarian, it's an herbivore. There's a difference. Herbivores are biologically programmed to get all of their nutritional requirements from that diet. Vegetarians are people who have chosen to restrict their diets for aesthetic reason, but people are omnivores. We cannot get all of the nutrients that we need from the dietary restrictions that Vegans impose on themselves and seek to impose on others.

not true, many people are vegetarian because for health reasons. You do not need supplements to get what your body needs. I've posted many times before pointing out how false those statements are. Everything a body needs, including B12 can be gotten from plants. It takes a level of education and research to do so. Hell many of the longest lived and healthiest people on the planet eat very very little meat, including seafood.

Zafod
01-18-2012, 08:27 PM
not true, many people are vegetarian because for health reasons. You do not need supplements to get what your body needs. I've posted many times before pointing out how false those statements are. Everything a body needs, including B12 can be gotten from plants. It takes a level of education and research to do so. Hell many of the longest lived and healthiest people on the planet eat very very little meat, including seafood.

sources please?

Rockntractor
01-18-2012, 08:28 PM
:popcorn:

fettpett
01-19-2012, 12:16 AM
sources please?

i've posted them before, they are on here

Rockntractor
01-19-2012, 01:20 AM
not true, many people are vegetarian because for health reasons. You do not need supplements to get what your body needs. I've posted many times before pointing out how false those statements are. Everything a body needs, including B12 can be gotten from plants. It takes a level of education and research to do so. Hell many of the longest lived and healthiest people on the planet eat very very little meat, including seafood.

Seventh Day Adventist dogma.

fettpett
01-19-2012, 10:47 AM
Seventh Day Adventist dogma.

ah, no, look at Greek and Okinawan diets, neither have much in the way of meat, seafood sure, wine sure, but not a lot of either over all. Both groups of people are among the longest lived and healthiest on the planet.

you want to eat pork, bacon, a big fat t-bone steak, go for it.

Zafod
01-19-2012, 02:37 PM
i've posted them before, they are on here

lame bro. lame.

fettpett
01-19-2012, 03:26 PM
lame bro. lame.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showpost.php?p=392296&postcount=13

http://www.naturalnews.com/022599_vegetarian_cancer_meat.html#ixzz1I22M6lDf

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&tok=6vrws1qG0x-LWAwcc4OhDQ&cp=22&gs_id=je&xhr=t&q=health+benefits+of+a+vegetarian+diet&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&safe=off&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=health+benefits+of+a+v&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=694e8924650858ea&biw=1680&bih=894

whats lame is the false claim that vegetarianism is unhealthy for people. It's not, yes people need to educate themselves, not crab load on white pasta, and what not because they are too stupid to figure out what to eat.

I'm not saying meat is bad, in of it's self for you. Just that straight meat diets are unhealthy.

Zafod
01-19-2012, 03:37 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showpost.php?p=392296&postcount=13

http://www.naturalnews.com/022599_vegetarian_cancer_meat.html#ixzz1I22M6lDf

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&tok=6vrws1qG0x-LWAwcc4OhDQ&cp=22&gs_id=je&xhr=t&q=health+benefits+of+a+vegetarian+diet&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&safe=off&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=health+benefits+of+a+v&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=694e8924650858ea&biw=1680&bih=894

whats lame is the false claim that vegetarianism is unhealthy for people. It's not, yes people need to educate themselves, not crab load on white pasta, and what not because they are too stupid to figure out what to eat.

I'm not saying meat is bad, in of it's self for you. Just that straight meat diets are unhealthy.


see was it that hard?

now the first link, meh seen it not saying you cant get vitamins from plant sources.

never claimed that straight meat is healthy or unhealthy. the anibolic diet (the subject of this thread) doesnt state that you never eat veggies and fruit but that you teach your body to eat a macro nutuient that it already makes. Fat....

Fat is not bad.

That was the point.

now to your last link (smart ass)

http://www.livestrong.com/article/252265-benefits-of-a-meat-diet/

john hopkins for veggie burger nutballs anyone?

hahahahaha

Artois
01-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Zero carbs? Been there, done that, but watch your cholesterol and liver function.

How does carb cycling affect your liver? :confused:

Rockntractor
01-19-2012, 04:08 PM
I'm not saying meat is bad, in of it's self for you. Just that straight meat diets are unhealthy.

Over doing any single thing is bad for you, variety is best.

Zafod
01-19-2012, 04:21 PM
How does carb cycling affect your liver? :confused:

it doesnt.

Rockntractor
01-19-2012, 04:37 PM
Life is to short, I see no reason on Gods green earth to over stress your liver just to have your neck the bigger than your head.

Zafod
01-19-2012, 04:52 PM
Life is to short, I see no reason on Gods green earth to over stress your liver just to have your neck the bigger than your head.

you failed there bud.

just give up now

Rockntractor
01-19-2012, 04:54 PM
you failed there bud.

just give up now

I like to poke the hamster!:D

Zafod
01-19-2012, 04:56 PM
I like to poke the hamster!:D

and I am getting hungry

http://ocean1025.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/pig1.jpg

fettpett
01-19-2012, 10:50 PM
see was it that hard?

now the first link, meh seen it not saying you cant get vitamins from plant sources.

never claimed that straight meat is healthy or unhealthy. the anibolic diet (the subject of this thread) doesnt state that you never eat veggies and fruit but that you teach your body to eat a macro nutuient that it already makes. Fat....

Fat is not bad.

That was the point.

now to your last link (smart ass)

http://www.livestrong.com/article/252265-benefits-of-a-meat-diet/

john hopkins for veggie burger nutballs anyone?

hahahahaha

no, it wasn't hard never said it was, only that I had posted it before.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/images/healthy-eating-plate-565.jpg

Harvard did their research without any money or interference from any Ag group.


I can understand the reason for teaching the body to use adipose tissue for energy particularly for those that need to lose it, however for those without much, such as yourself, is it necessary? You need around 4% body fat to stay healthy, anything less and the body starts to loses the ability to function properly. Normal function doesn't use adipose tissue though, uses ATP which comes from sugars. excess sugars are turned into fat.

Rockntractor
01-20-2012, 12:41 AM
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/buffham.jpg

Zafod
01-20-2012, 10:26 AM
no, it wasn't hard never said it was, only that I had posted it before.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/images/healthy-eating-plate-565.jpg

Harvard did their research without any money or interference from any Ag group.


I can understand the reason for teaching the body to use adipose tissue for energy particularly for those that need to lose it, however for those without much, such as yourself, is it necessary? You need around 4% body fat to stay healthy, anything less and the body starts to loses the ability to function properly. Normal function doesn't use adipose tissue though, uses ATP which comes from sugars. excess sugars are turned into fat.

You think I have low bfp? Hahahahahaha I'm prob around 20% or more right now.
But again, my post was from when I was starting a "cutting" cycle.
You seem to have taken it as some kind of attack which is fucking retarded.

Zafod
01-20-2012, 10:28 AM
Eat you veggies I could care less.