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txradioguy
11-30-2011, 05:15 AM
President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama's job approval rating has hovered above Carter's, considered among the 20th century's worst presidents, but today Obama's punctured Carter's dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama's job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter's 51 percent.

Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter's ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

According to Gallup, here are the job approval numbers for other presidents at this stage of their terms, a year before the re-election campaign:

-- Harry S. Truman: 54 percent.

-- Dwight Eisenhower: 78 percent.

-- Lyndon B. Johnson: 44 percent.

-- Richard M. Nixon: 50 percent.

-- Ronald Reagan: 54 percent.

-- George H.W. Bush: 52 percent.

-- Bill Clinton: 51 percent.

-- George W. Bush: 55 percent.

What's more, Gallup finds that Obama's overall job approval rating so far has averaged 49 percent. Only three former presidents have had a worse average rating at this stage: Carter, Ford, and Harry S. Truman. Only Truman won re-election in an anti-Congress campaign that Obama's team is using as a model.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters

Odysseus
11-30-2011, 10:16 AM
November 29, 2011 RSS Feed Print President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama's job approval rating has hovered above Carter's, considered among the 20th century's worst presidents, but today Obama's punctured Carter's dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama's job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter's 51 percent.

Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter's ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

According to Gallup, here are the job approval numbers for other presidents at this stage of their terms, a year before the re-election campaign:

-- Harry S. Truman: 54 percent.

-- Dwight Eisenhower: 78 percent.

-- Lyndon B. Johnson: 44 percent.

-- Richard M. Nixon: 50 percent.

-- Ronald Reagan: 54 percent.

-- George H.W. Bush: 52 percent.

-- Bill Clinton: 51 percent.

-- George W. Bush: 55 percent.

What's more, Gallup finds that Obama's overall job approval rating so far has averaged 49 percent. Only three former presidents have had a worse average rating at this stage: Carter, Ford, and Harry S. Truman. Only Truman won re-election in an anti-Congress campaign that Obama's team is using as a model.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters
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Hope and Change Cartoons nailed it:


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Proving once again that he can make history simply by being "present," Barack Obama has now achieved the lowest job approval rating of any President at this stage in his administration.

Achieving only a 43% approval rate, Mr. Obama's numbers are a full 8 percentage points beneath those of Jimmy Carter, a president so awful that even complimentary peanuts have nothing nice to say about him. (Okay, that's an awful joke about the peanut-farming president but astoundingly, even that punchline has more than a 43% approval rate).

Mr. Carter, gleefully adding insult to injury, has suggested that part of Mr. Obama's problem is that he doesn't really participate in leading the country... and rather than formulating legislation, he simply "lets Congress evolve multiple bills and then negotiate to get a final decision or even no decision."

Granted, the idea of getting Mr. Obama more involved in legislation is the same sort of godawful miscalculation that previously made Carter's tenure a political punchline - but he still makes a point.

And gets the last laugh.


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Now available at the
Carter Presidential Library Gift Shop.

noonwitch
11-30-2011, 10:21 AM
I got my first Christmas card on Friday-it was from the real estate agent who sold me my house.
I got my second one on Monday-it was from the Carter Library, and was signed in blue ink "Rosalyn and Jimmy Carter". Attached was a letter soliciting donations.


It's only because I subscribe to Soujourners.

Arroyo_Doble
11-30-2011, 10:23 AM
Here is a cool link for comparing over time:


Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx)

djones520
11-30-2011, 10:57 AM
Here is a cool link for comparing over time:


Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx)

That is kinda nifty. Thanks for digging that up.

Odysseus
11-30-2011, 03:22 PM
Here is a cool link for comparing over time:

Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx)

Real Clear Politics has it on a graph (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html), along with other polls, that they average out.

The Gallup poll is interesting because it shows a new low for Obama in that poll, but they poll voters and non-voters, so its impact on the election is minimal. OTOH, Rasmussen only polls likely voters, while other polls go for registered voters. In each poll, Obama's approval rating is around 43-44%, while his disapproval rating fluctuates. Among registered voters, he tends to have a higher disapproval rating than among all respondents, and among likely voters, his disapproval rating is a whopping 56%. That's significant because likely voters are, as the term implies, more likely to vote than registered voters, that is, they are more engaged politically and more intense about voting. Intensity is just as critical as approval, because it demonstrates that the more committed someone is to voting next year, the more likely it is that that person disapproves of Obama, and he is more popular among those who are less committed to voting. This means that his base can expect a lower turnout, while the opposition can expect a higher one.

Janice
12-02-2011, 09:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jkRrt.jpg

Seems to me that Gallup has a real problem comparing our Marxist Pres to Truman as Truman was Pro-US on domestic policy and had a strong (Pro-US) foreign policy while 0blamer does not. Carter grew peanuts, 0dimbo cultivates 'ACORNs'. And actually Jimmuh wasn't near as arrogant as Commissar Barry is. Of the 43% that do approve of Barry, about 90% are black, and an even more significant number are ultra leftists imho.

Rockntractor
12-02-2011, 10:07 PM
More people approve of waterboarding than approve of Obama. Come to think of it I would rather be waterboarded than put up with 4 more years of this man.

Elspeth
12-02-2011, 10:50 PM
More people approve of waterboarding than approve of Obama. Come to think of it I would rather be waterboarded than put up with 4 more years of this man.

You may not have to.

There's only one way a candidate with 43% can win and that's with a conservative spoiler. Remember Slick Willy won the 1992 election with 43% of the vote (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992) thanks to Ross Perot, who siphoned off almost 19% of the popular vote.

The problem is that the spoilers existing right now will actually hurt Obama. MSNBC covered a couple of possible spoilers this week: (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/)

1. Rocky Anderson's "Justice" party. (http://open.salon.com/blog/rick_lucke/2011/12/02/the_justice_party_rocky_anderson_ows)

2. "Americans Elect". (http://www.americanselect.org/?gclid=CJrq48zu5KwCFcF05QodTHl5Mw)

The Justice Party is using the language of Occupy Wall Street and Anderson is a known liberal, well as liberal as one can be in Salt Lake City. However, he is a great fan of fellow Utah politician John Huntsman personally and Huntsman could end up on the ballot as veep for the firebrand liberal Anderson. This party would eat away at Obama's left flank.

Americans Elect, on the other hand, is the brainchild of Buddy Roemer, a conservative, but the ticket is required to be mixed with a GOP presidential candidate being required to pick a Democratic veep and vice versa. This kind of ticket will not appeal to true conservatives, but will appeal to the centrist, the undecided voter. This party would eat away at Obama's independent voters.

Both parties are tech savvy: the Justice party has started on Rocky Anderson's Facebook page (!) and Roemer's Americans Elect is going to allow people to vote online for their favorite candidate, a la American Idol. This means that Obama's younger demographic, tech savvy and online most of the time, will be pulled in.

Not sure how this is all going to pan out but at least one Daily Kos blogger (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/01/1041413/-Rocky-Anderson-runs-for-President-as-Justice-Party-Candidate!) is in love with the idea of the Justice Party and thinks Anderson took the core platform from a Kos blog.

Just some musings: I could be entirely wrong, but the rumblings from Cheney (and others) that Hillary would have been a better President, indicate a real Washington insider disappointment in what Oblahblah has been able to accomplish (or not accomplish).

Starbuck
12-02-2011, 11:12 PM
This thread is so scary that I will not be able to sleep.:(

Please, God. Make him go away.:an:

Elspeth
12-02-2011, 11:17 PM
This thread is so scary that I will not be able to sleep.:(

Please, God. Make him go away.:an:

You should be happy after reading my post (above). :)

Starbuck
12-02-2011, 11:23 PM
You should be happy after reading my post (above). :)

No. That frightens me even more. I remember all too well how Perot tossed the election to an unqualified liberal. It makes me nervous when y'all talk about it. Clinton and Wilson are the only two Presidents to serve 2 terms and never get 50% of the popular vote.

But I'll be brave. I'll keep the faith and when the time comes I'll vote just as HARD AS I CAN!:)

Elspeth
12-02-2011, 11:34 PM
No. That frightens me even more. I remember all too well how Perot tossed the election to an unqualified liberal. It makes me nervous when y'all talk about it. Clinton and Wilson are the only two Presidents to serve 2 terms and never get 50% of the popular vote.

But I'll be brave. I'll keep the faith and when the time comes I'll vote just as HARD AS I CAN!:)

The current 3rd parties are much more likely to hurt Oblahblah than a conservative with solid support. Unless a real challenge comes from the right--say Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry run on an independent ticket--the GOP candidate should win.

Janice
12-02-2011, 11:38 PM
Interesting observation Elspeth. I like it.