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Apocalypse
12-01-2011, 08:58 PM
It is the age old debate among sci-fi fans.

The video that kicked off the debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BYNdTHjstI

Princess Liea herself, Carrie Fisher, responds with her own video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU2jqIRjJVI

William Shatner takes a some pretty heavy jabs at Fisher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPiWm4mGgyg

Bailey
12-01-2011, 09:31 PM
OMG Carrie looks so old :(

Molon Labe
12-02-2011, 08:45 AM
Star Trek really inspired Star Wars but Star Wars was far superior and revolutionized the entire genre.

Star Wars rules.

linda22003
12-02-2011, 09:35 AM
OMG Carrie looks so old :(

Fear not. She's done Jenny Craig and had a nip/tuck. :)

http://snarkfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Carrie-Fisher-weight-loss.jpg

Starbuck
12-02-2011, 09:43 AM
As I carefully explained to my wife:
It is simple, Sweetie. Star Trek was television. You know, Starship Enterprise, Captain James T Kirk, Spock. All that was just for TV.

But, Star Wars really happened!:D

Bailey
12-02-2011, 09:49 AM
Please Star Trek is way better then Star wars. Star Trek was a glimpse into the future of what might become of the Human Race if we ever decide to stop killing one another. In a word Hope.

NJCardFan
12-02-2011, 09:59 AM
Please Star Trek is way better then Star wars. Star Trek was a glimpse into the future of what might become of the Human Race if we ever decide to stop killing one another. In a word Hope.

And there are no wars in the Star Trek universe? Did I miss something?

noonwitch
12-02-2011, 10:03 AM
I was a kid when Star Wars was released, and to me and my friends, it was the best movie ever.

Hunk factor:
Han Solo vs Captain Kirk=Han Solo. Even as old men, Harrison Ford is better looking than Shatner. Han Solo is funnier than Captain Kirk.

Tough woman role model factor:
Princess Leia vs Lt. Uhuru=Princess Leia, at least in the second and third movies, when she fights. Then again, she takes torture in the first movie without giving up the Rebels' plans, so she is tough.

The worst thing that Lt. Uhuru faces is aliens who force her and Kirk to kiss. She has more style than Leia, though.

Special effects:

No comparison. Lucas is the master.


But any contest regarding campiness would be won by Star Trek.

Molon Labe
12-02-2011, 11:07 AM
Please Star Trek is way better then Star wars. Star Trek was a glimpse into the future of what might become of the Human Race if we ever decide to stop killing one another. In a word Hope.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

Star Wars Episode IV


A NEW HOPE

Arroyo_Doble
12-02-2011, 11:14 AM
Star Trek was better. It was genuine science fiction with the context being necessary for the narrative.

Star Wars was a western. I figure Uncle Owen and his wife were sheep herders.

Bailey
12-02-2011, 11:16 AM
And there are no wars in the Star Trek universe? Did I miss something?

Not until DS9. TNG or TOS never had any wars (cept maybe a battle with the borg) Besides who said there wasnt any war? I said Humans stopped killing one another.

jediab
12-02-2011, 12:36 PM
Star Wars is way better. If for any reason because ILM does the special effects for both.

NJCardFan
12-02-2011, 12:40 PM
Star Wars is way better. If for any reason because ILM does the special effects for both.

Considering that Star Wars had a much bigger FX budget, I think Star Trek did amazing with what they had. The innovation of the original series right up to the more advanced FX of TNG, DS9, and Voyager not to mention the movies. In fact, Star Trek aliens were much much more believable than Star Wars aliens.

Also, the writing was better in Star Trek. Not to take anything away from Star Wars but the concepts were different. Star Wars were an homage to the old serials like Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon while Star Trek was more cerebral(actual reason why the original pilot didn't help to launch Star Trek:TOS to be picked up).

Bailey
12-02-2011, 12:42 PM
Star Wars is way better. If for any reason because ILM does the special effects for both.



kind of off topic but go to youtube and search for the critique of the last 3 star wars films, lol its funny as hell as this creepy guy rips the newest movies into shreds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI


this is so funny lol

Articulate_Ape
12-02-2011, 02:08 PM
OMG Carrie looks so old :(

She stole Cher's fake lips.

jediab
12-02-2011, 03:11 PM
Both are great actually. I prefer Star Wars mostly because that is what I grew up on.

It could also have something to do with the amount of money my parents handed over to Kenner for all of the toys I had. ;)

noonwitch
12-02-2011, 04:10 PM
Both are great actually. I prefer Star Wars mostly because that is what I grew up on.

It could also have something to do with the amount of money my parents handed over to Kenner for all of the toys I had. ;)


Too bad that being a kid, you probably tore open all that packaging and actually played with the toys, or you could get a pretty good return on your parents investment by selling it all on ebay.

JB
12-02-2011, 07:06 PM
TNG rules all because no one is hotter than Ensign Lefler:

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/MSBrady78/charpics/lefler.jpg

Bailey
12-02-2011, 07:28 PM
TNG rules all because no one is hotter than Ensign Lefler:

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/MSBrady78/charpics/lefler.jpg

Hell with her, 7 of 9 rules or troy before she that age wall going at a 100 miles an hour

JB
12-02-2011, 07:42 PM
Hell with her, 7 of 9 rules or troy before she that age wall going at a 100 miles an hourOK, that's not the best pic.

But in their prime, Ashley Judd smokes those two. Troi a close second.

Bailey
12-02-2011, 07:55 PM
OK, that's not the best pic.

But in their prime, Ashley Judd smokes those two. Troi a close second.

Face wise yes but 7of9 body is smoking, baring in mind if the suit she wore affected her or not

Kay
12-02-2011, 09:06 PM
http://www.meredy.com/lis03.jpg

Don was hot.

Bailey
12-02-2011, 10:15 PM
http://www.meredy.com/lis03.jpg

Don was hot.

You sure are dating yourself :p

SarasotaRepub
12-02-2011, 10:56 PM
http://www.helpfarm.com/images/wars-trek.jpg


:vader:

Rockntractor
12-02-2011, 10:58 PM
http://www.helpfarm.com/images/wars-trek.jpg


:vader:

That ship is like square!:rolleyes:

Apocalypse
12-02-2011, 11:34 PM
http://www.helpfarm.com/images/wars-trek.jpg


:vader:

Just get off work SR?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wGR4-SeuJ0

NJCardFan
12-02-2011, 11:54 PM
I don't think you can fairly compare the 2. As some said, I like both but Star Trek just that much more. I've been to Star Trek conventions, met some of the cast members(Troi, Scotty, Worf, Sisco) and really enjoyed their stories. Jim Doohan(Scotty) was a combat vet and mixed in some war stories. But Star Trek was deeper, more heady, because it was a weekly show and not only 6 two movies. I think the reason why some like Star Wars better was because there was more action. But Star Trek allowed you to identify with some of the characters and understand them. 7 seasons of TNG and I knew a lot about the crew and you saw some of them grow into good characters. For me, Phantom Menace and the re-do of the original 3 killed Star Wars for me.

Novaheart
12-03-2011, 02:06 AM
Star Trek seems more real and the writers spent a lot more time on continuity of technology. We now have some of the technology from Star Trek, it's as if they knew it was coming. Star Wars was more of a sci-fi fantasy where tech is mixed with magic. When Star Trek added too much magic, it started to suck. When Star Trek got all Alan Alda preachy, it definitely sucked.

Over all, Star Trek was great and so was Star Wars. I still sometimes stay up later than I should to finish a Star Wars movie that I have seen before. I will turn on a Star Wars or a Star Trek marathon for background. They have fairly similar lighting and audio continuity, which makes for restful viewing. Restful, not a total snore like golf.

Odysseus
12-06-2011, 01:53 PM
At this point, they're pretty much a wash. Star Trek has had some great series and some utter drek, while three out of the six Star Wars movies are complete drivel and one is an extended teddy bear commercial. However, if the two universes ever collided, things would get interesting for the following reasons:

James T. Kirk would hook up with some very strange alien babes. "Where no man has gone before" would be replaced by "What is that and where does it go?"
Klingon/Wookie Ultimate Fighting would be the number one show on pay-per-view in either galaxy.
Harry Mudd and Han Solo would come up with far better uses for clone tech than storm troopers. Four words: Green Orion slave girls. That would give Jabba the Hut his money's worth.
Vulcans would make great Jedis.
Romulans would make great Sith Lords.

fettpett
12-09-2011, 05:22 PM
Star Trek is hard Sci-fi

Star Wars is Sci-fantasy

Star Wars is much better though :D

Novaheart
12-09-2011, 05:33 PM
Star Trek is hard Sci-fi

Star Wars is Sci-fantasy



That works.

THE Gypsy
12-09-2011, 05:56 PM
I prefer Star Trek although both were outstanding in their own way.

Star Trek laid the groundwork for everything else to successfully follow. When you consider the time when the original series was written it's amazing it ever went anywhere...And it damn near didn't! Remember when Kirk kissed Uhura? OH MY! THE SHOCK! :D I saw Shatner on a talk show and they were discussing the uniforms. He said the reason the uniforms were so short (and they had to wear boots) is because they shrank the first time they were washed and there was no money in the budget to buy new ones! http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/Bithiah_photo/Smilies/Girl%20Smilies/smilie_girl_101.gif

IMO...I did like Picard better than Kirk. Kirk would sleep with any creature that came along. Picard had higher moral and ethical standards.

THE Gypsy
12-09-2011, 05:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDp1sAx09pg

Odysseus
12-09-2011, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4

SarasotaRepub
12-09-2011, 07:40 PM
:vader::thumbsup:

JoeKwonDo
12-10-2011, 01:13 AM
Big fan of both, but Star Trek a little more - the last 3 SW movies didn't get me all revved up.

A few odd thoughts...

Uhura was a doll back in the day - ask Spock
http://www.heartlessdoll.com/uhura_titgrab.jpg

I just watched a documentary on Showtime or HBO I think, that was made by Eugene Roddenberry the son of the creator and it is really interesting about Star Treks up and downs. It was mainly how he was never close to his old man, in fact he was a Star Wars guy, but a lot of that is when you were born imho.

Roddenberry gave up on season 3 of TOS once he got the crummy time slot and new it would not be renewed and left it in the hands of others - it was some of the worst episodes, but also two of my favorites Elaan of Troyius and the Enterprise Incident

He did not want the crew to be at odds in TNG, I never really paid it much attention until I saw it in the documentary but it is apparent once you pay attention. He died I think in season 4 or beginning of 5, and you started seeing more crew unrest which spread in Voyager and Enterprise.

I really got into voyager and TNG when they went into syndications and I could watch an episode a day kind of thing - good thing for TIVO.

I was disappointed in Enterprise that they got into weird story lines, I would have stuck with the development of starfleet and the early technology. They flirted with it like when the engineer made a captains chair like kirk's for Archer or he was trying out all of the Red Alert Klaxons.

Oh and to an earlier post 7 of 9 all the way.

The remastered originals are pretty cool.

To Star Wars and the fantasy, I most enjoyed the early movies - loved the myriad ships and his use of sounds for ships, vehicles and weapons.

I like them both bottom line oh and the remake of Battlestar Gallactica too, don't see why one has to be better than the other but that's humans for ya :popcorn:

{/SciFiGeek]

namvet
12-10-2011, 11:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDp1sAx09pg

going boldly where no man has gone before??? almost like the shot heard round the word this created a swirl of controversy. when it aired, the south banned the series. Shatner recalls in Star Trek Memories that NBC insisted their lips never touch (the technique of turning their heads away from the camera was used to conceal this). However, Nichelle Nichols insists in her autobiography Beyond Uhura (written in 1994 after Shatner's book) that the kiss was real, even in takes where her head obscures their lips.

as time moved on Nichols character was pushed further into the background in favor more well known stars. she resigned from the series. but meet a fan of her's, and the series, that changed her mind

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I never was a fan of the TV series. but I did like the movies

JB
12-10-2011, 04:39 PM
Uhura was a doll back in the day - ask Spock:eek: :D

The look on her face is priceless.

Caption: I get a guy to touch my breasts and he has no idea what he's doing.

THE Gypsy
12-11-2011, 04:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WBKah3uwg&feature=player_embedded#

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/Bithiah_photo/Smilies/grinning-smiley-009.gifhttp://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/Bithiah_photo/Smilies/grinning-smiley-009.gifhttp://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/Bithiah_photo/Smilies/grinning-smiley-009.gif

Apocalypse
12-31-2011, 11:25 AM
The next installment of their ongoing fight is out now.

This time from George Takei.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTCr5Z-0lA

When things got personal, George Takei--the only actor who has worked in both--stepped in to broker the peace by identifying a mutual threat.>>> ?


LOL

namvet
12-31-2011, 11:54 AM
I didn't know this till recently


AKA George Hosato Takei

Born: 20-Apr-1937
Birthplace: Los Angeles, CA


Gender: Male
Religion: Buddhist
Race or Ethnicity: Asian
Sexual orientation: Gay [1]
Occupation: Actor
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Sulu on Star Trek

George Takei was born in Los Angeles to American-born parents, but grew up in Allied concentration camps during World War II. Takei was four years old when his family was sent to an "assembly center" at the Santa Anita Race Track, and then assigned to a camp in Arkansas, and later transferred to a different camp in Northern California. When the war ended the family returned to Los Angeles. Takei always enjoyed acting in school plays, and switched his college major from architecture to drama after taking his first acting class. Between his freshman and sophomore years, he made his film debut dubbing English dialogue for eight different characters for the American release of Sora no daikaijū Radon (Rodan! The Flying Monster).

http://www.nndb.com/people/625/000022559/

NJCardFan
12-31-2011, 01:23 PM
Takei came out years ago.