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NJCardFan
12-08-2011, 12:37 PM
And get the death penalty against you thrown out. Convicted cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal got the death penalty against him dropped. So, in Philadelphia, shoot a wounded cop while he's down in cold blood and you can blame it on a racist justice system, get enough Hollywood liberals behind you, and all will be OK. Only a matter of time before this lump of shit is released from jail the way things are going. Here's a link to the story:http://news.yahoo.com/da-dropping-death-penalty-against-mumia-abu-jamal-160844118.html Way to piss on the grave of Daniel Faulkner.

Bailey
12-08-2011, 12:44 PM
That Desomond Tutu FUCKSTICK is now calling for him to be released, I knew THE SECOND HE GOT OUT of the DP some asshole would call for his release. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

noonwitch
12-08-2011, 03:10 PM
I do not know enough about the legal issues in the case to say that he is innocent and should be set free. I've read lots of comments on both sides of the issue, but I wasn't on the jury and didn't see the evidence laid out for me in that way. I know Mumia had connections to the MOVE group, which doesn't exactly help his side of the argument, imo.

I'm always opposed to the death penalty, though. A life sentence should mean a life sentence-no early paroles for those convicted of 1st degree murder, and most who are convicted of 2nd degree murder.

NJCardFan
12-08-2011, 03:38 PM
I do not know enough about the legal issues in the case to say that he is innocent and should be set free. I've read lots of comments on both sides of the issue, but I wasn't on the jury and didn't see the evidence laid out for me in that way. I know Mumia had connections to the MOVE group, which doesn't exactly help his side of the argument, imo.

I'm always opposed to the death penalty, though. A life sentence should mean a life sentence-no early paroles for those convicted of 1st degree murder, and most who are convicted of 2nd degree murder.

He was a Black Panther, not MOVE.

Wei Wu Wei
12-08-2011, 06:49 PM
I heard that when there is a death penalty case in trial, that prosecutors are able to selectively bias the jury by only allowing people who support the death penalty on the jury.

Only allowing people who support the death penalty is not a fair cross-representation of one's peers, so it is not actually a jury of peers. People who support the death penalty are also far more likely to convict a suspect, all things being considered equal.

It would be like having a trial for a drug conviction with the jury being entirely selected by NORML.

Tipsycatlover
12-08-2011, 06:55 PM
The libs are overjoyed that a white cop was murdered in cold blood by this vermin.

Wei Wu Wei
12-08-2011, 07:02 PM
Another thing I heard, is that this guy got his Death Penalty sentence changed not because those making the decision wanted to go easy on him, quite the opposite actually. There was a possibility that Jamal would have been given a new sentencing hearing on the grounds that the jury may have been given misleading instructions during his original trial.

If they pursued the death penalty, there may have needed to be a re-hearing on his sentencing based on jury misinformation, which would have opened up the possibility of new evidence and new witnesses on behalf of Jamal.

With the impending possibility of a new sentencing hearing, or even a new trial coming up, with new evidence for the defense, they instead decided to stop the whole thing.

I've still got to read more on this, but this is what I've been hearing today.

JB
12-08-2011, 07:38 PM
He was a Black Panther, not MOVE.She said he had connections to the MOVE group, which he did.

He wanted John Africa (MOVE founder) to defend him at trial. He also quotes Africa frequently.

JB
12-08-2011, 07:39 PM
With the impending possibility of a new sentencing hearing, or even a new trial coming up, with new evidence for the defense, they instead decided to stop the whole thing.Really? What was the new evidence?

And I don't mean regarding sentencing, I mean new trial evidence.

Wei Wu Wei
12-08-2011, 07:48 PM
I think some witnesses came forward with new or different stories about the day of the incident. I'm not too sure I've only heard bits and pieces.

JB
12-08-2011, 07:54 PM
...So far in this thread you've posted "I heard, I heard, I think, and I heard".

Perhaps you should get your facts in order before you post again.

Zathras
12-08-2011, 08:33 PM
So far in this thread you've posted "I heard, I heard, I think, and I heard".

Perhaps you should get your facts in order before you post again.

Remember who you're talking to JB. Facts to Wee Wee are the same as sunlight and garlic to a vampire.

Novaheart
12-08-2011, 10:22 PM
And get the death penalty against you thrown out. Convicted cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal got the death penalty against him dropped. So, in Philadelphia, shoot a wounded cop while he's down in cold blood and you can blame it on a racist justice system, get enough Hollywood liberals behind you, and all will be OK. Only a matter of time before this lump of shit is released from jail the way things are going. Here's a link to the story:http://news.yahoo.com/da-dropping-death-penalty-against-mumia-abu-jamal-160844118.html Way to piss on the grave of Daniel Faulkner.

Another way of looking at it is more positive. By changing his sentence from execution to LWOP, it takes a lot of the gas out of bleeding hearts and other idiots. Now he can't be a martyr in waiting.

Novaheart
12-08-2011, 10:29 PM
I heard that when there is a death penalty case in trial, that prosecutors are able to selectively bias the jury by only allowing people who support the death penalty on the jury.

Only if you accept, and I don't, that those who support the death penalty (and I don't) are more likely to convict. I will never be chosen as a juror because I am intelligent, objective, and candid. I oppose the death penalty because it has no room for error and it's annoyingly time consuming and expensive to have these pieces of human waste appeal after appeal. Life in prison would be the worse punishment for me, so I project that on them.

There is no bias to only allowing jurors who would be willing to give the death penalty. Were it otherwise, you would not get a fair trial since no jury could convict a man of a capital offense. Of course, eliminating the death penalty might eliminate this problem, but in line with what Bailey said, as soon as you eliminated the death penalty, LWOP will become the new cruel and unusual punishment for shitbirds like Mike Farrell to get his panties in a knot about.

Arrogant motherfucker, I just would love to read that someone had slapped that smug attitude and delivery off Farrell face with repeated blows from a riding crop.