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mike128
12-17-2011, 12:15 AM
Just recently, SC Governor Nikki Haley has endorsed Massachusetts Liberal Flip Romney. Prior to this, Christine O'Donnell and Dan Quayle also endorsed Mr. Flip-Flop. I could care less! Flip Romney will NEVER get my vote. NO WAY!

I'm also suspicious of money changing hands in exchange for these endosements. Christine O'Donnell and Nikki Haley are both conservatives. I don't think either of these women are stupid enough to endorse a Massachusetts Flip-Flopper on their own, for free.

If Flip Romney is the GOP nominee, then this election will be a complete joke! If that's the case, then I hope Trump runs as a third party candidate just for entertainment value.

That's my rant for today.

Zathras
12-17-2011, 03:52 AM
Yawn...more faux outrage from CU's resident faux conservative troll.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

wwworkingguy
12-17-2011, 09:15 AM
IMO it's all about who can more handily defeat Obama. If that is Romney.... so be it. I'd vote for any one of the Repub's over Obama. You should too. As far as the Primary .... I'm not yet decided...... but leaning toward Romney.

Tipsycatlover
12-17-2011, 10:04 AM
I'd vote for any of the republicans but Ron Paul.

Janice
12-17-2011, 10:14 AM
Id vote for my cat rather than let Mao Stinkey have another 4 years.

But I do hope and pray that Romney loses in the primaries. I have to admit it doesnt look good though ... democrats "crossing over" gave us McVain last time around and may give us the Mittwitt this time around. Thats what stinks about the primaries starting in the N.E. IMHO.

Starbuck
12-17-2011, 11:03 AM
.......... Christine O'Donnell and Nikki Haley are both conservatives. I don't think either of these women are stupid enough to endorse a Massachusetts Flip-Flopper on their own, for free.............

Jeez, you sound like Rod Blagojevich.

Zeus
12-17-2011, 12:43 PM
IMO it's all about who can more handily defeat Obama. If that is Romney.... so be it. I'd vote for any one of the Repub's over Obama. You should too. As far as the Primary .... I'm not yet decided...... but leaning toward Romney.


I'd vote for any of the republicans but Ron Paul.

I think any of the Reps running could beat Obama except Huntsman & Ron Paul.

mike128
12-17-2011, 06:54 PM
Folks,

Where's the victory in replacing a Socialist with a Liberal Flip-Flopper? All we will be getting if Romney wins is Obama-lite. I hardly see that as a victory.

If Newt is the only candidate that can beat Romney, then I hope he pulls through, and I'll hold my nose and vote for Newt in November. But I just don't see the point if Romney gets the nomination.

Wei Wu Wei
12-17-2011, 07:10 PM
The point is beating Obama. That's all it's about. Beating Obama means you win some battle in an imaginary war. Policies be damned, as long as Obama loses.

JB
12-17-2011, 08:02 PM
Beating Obama means you win some battle in an imaginary war. Policies be damned, as long as Obama loses.The policies are the battle and the war.

Haven't you been paying attention or do you believe that opposing Obama simply implies you are a racist?

Kay
12-17-2011, 09:42 PM
I'd vote for any of the republicans but Ron Paul.

Now that's a scary thought. Having to make a choice between Ron Paul or Barry.
Paul is a loon but I'd have to vote for him. At least he is an American.


Folks,
Where's the victory in replacing a Socialist with a Liberal Flip-Flopper?

No, it's deeper than that. I'd take an American born liberal flip-flop that at least loves
this country over the euro-loving-socialist God damn America madrasah educated
magical negro messiah.

txradioguy
12-18-2011, 05:15 AM
The policies are the battle and the war.

Haven't you been paying attention or do you believe that opposing Obama simply implies you are a racist?

That and because Wee Wee is a hard core Marxist/Statist like Obama...he doesn't see anything wrong with what Obama has been doing to this country...except that he's been doing to too slowly for Wee Wee's liking.

cowboyjack
12-18-2011, 10:51 AM
Although romney is not my favorite, I would vote for any of the Republican canidates. It will come down to who can defeat Obama, not who expresses my conservative beliefs the best. Yes, I would like to have a true to the core conservative, but I do not believe that person, whoever, is electable. And please protect us from Trump.

Odysseus
12-18-2011, 11:25 AM
The point is beating Obama. That's all it's about. Beating Obama means you win some battle in an imaginary war. Policies be damned, as long as Obama loses.

WWII wasn't about putting the US and Soviets in charge of two competing spheres of influence, it was about defeating ideologies that sought to destroy us. Defeating Obama isn't about electing the perfect candidate, because there is no perfect candidate, it is about removing an inept, self-absorbed, ideologically toxic president and replacing him with someone better, and as we have seen, and you refuse to, any of the Republican candidates would be an improvement.

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/121811.jpg

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:25 AM
That and because Wee Wee is a hard core Marxist/Statist like Obama...he doesn't see anything wrong with what Obama has been doing to this country..

lol not even close

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:41 AM
The policies are the battle and the war.

Haven't you been paying attention or do you believe that opposing Obama simply implies you are a racist?

I'm not implying anyone who opposes Obama is a racist, in fact Obama lost my support long ago.

What I am saying is that people are so hyped up over some imaginary battle between Republicans and Democrats that they have to invent reasons to keep it going.

It doesn't matter what the policies are, all that matters to some is that Team R beats Team D, especially because Obama is team captain and there is some intense high school rivalry going on.

For example, on Israel, Obama has continued to expand the US' support of Israel in the same manner that Bush did. Obama has been praised by even neo-cons for his expansion of military support for Israel. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/09/25/obama-arms-israel.print.html
This includes a large volume of bunker-busters that may be used against Iran in any upcoming conflict. Not only does Obama continue to give record amounts of aid to Israel, but this support comes with absolutely no strings attached, no conditions or rules, unlike aid giving to every other foreign country.

Even Netanyahu himself said Obama deserves a badge of honor (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64034.html) for his consistent support for Israel in matters of foreign policy and international politics.

Increased financial aid, military aid, going against nearly the entire world to veto a very popular UN resolution to give palestinians statehood (this last one is particularly interesting because a 2-state solution has been the plan that every recent American president has endorsed, but when it came to the table Obama stood firm and refused to budge on it, very hypocritically).

In no way has Obama been anything than fully supportive of Israel, that's just what the facts say, however, in order to keep up this illusion of a great ideological war between the parties, the right-wing media has drummed up a fake story about Obama being "the most anti-Israel president in history". It's based on nothing but pure hysteria, but it's repeated often enough for millions of non-thinking people to accept it as fact.

In reality, both parties treat Israel about the same, there is no significant difference towards middle eastern policies and Israel-related policies, but it's drummed up into a big deal just to get people worked up.

That was one example but the list goes on and on. In terms of the so called "war on terror", Obama has continued everything that Bush started, Israel policy is the same. With the economy Obama has continued policies started by Bush, including tax cuts and bailouts. With healthcare Obama has put forward a plan that was originally a Republican plan by design.

However, in order to make conservatives enthusiastic about their lackluster group of potential nominees, the sheep herders must resort to their most effective tactic: ignorant fear. They know they can't get people to vote For their republican candidates, so instead they try to get people to vote against Obama. They do this by inventing this large ideological war that does not exist, and convincing gullible, fearful people that if they don't "stop Obama" that some Bolshevik revolution will occur any day now.

So instead of voting for good principles or sane policies, some people just end up voting against a boogy-man that embodies all of their fears, which has been projected onto Obama, and these people will vote for any Big Man who will make the boogy-man go away and tuck them in at night. Policies come later, that kind of discussion is for intellectuals and others pansies.

Rockntractor
12-18-2011, 02:04 PM
So instead of voting for good principles or sane policies, some people just end up voting against a boogy-man that embodies all of their fears, which has been projected onto Obama, and these people will vote for any Big Man who will make the boogy-man go away and tuck them in at night. Policies come later, that kind of discussion is for intellectuals and others pansies.

I see Tokyo Rose is back.:popcorn:

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 02:33 PM
Paranoia is a sign of a critically threatened ideology. You don't have to become anti-american to think about what I'm posting. You don't have to become a commie, hell you don't even have to become left-wing. There are plenty of conservative-minded or libertarian people who agree with me on some of these issues, even if we disagree on many other things, including solutions. I think if you are willing to engage what I'm saying with critical thought, you'll find it much more enriching.

Or just foam at the mouth whenever you hear something you don't like, whichever you prefer, but I hope you realize that no echo-chamber is perfect.

Starbuck
12-18-2011, 06:28 PM
Wei still insists that he is the only one who can see the truth; the only one who can clearly think; the only one informed; the smartest one in the room.

No wonder he is a fifth grade teacher.

Rockntractor
12-18-2011, 06:45 PM
I hope you realize that no echo-chamber is perfect.

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/wei-weis-head-wei-demotivational-posters-1324248259.jpg

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 08:49 PM
Wei still insists that he is the only one who can see the truth; the only one who can clearly think; the only one informed; the smartest one in the room.

edit: prove me wrong.

tip: foaming at the mouth and insulting isn't the best way

Starbuck
12-18-2011, 11:01 PM
edit: prove me wrong.

tip: foaming at the mouth and insulting isn't the best way

And neither is informing us that only you have the truth and the rest of the world is comprised of suckers who cannot see the truth. You have only opinions, Wei. That's all.

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:11 PM
i've never claimed that and I don't believe that, you're projecting

Odysseus
12-19-2011, 12:03 AM
I'm not implying anyone who opposes Obama is a racist, in fact Obama lost my support long ago.

What I am saying is that people are so hyped up over some imaginary battle between Republicans and Democrats that they have to invent reasons to keep it going.

It doesn't matter what the policies are, all that matters to some is that Team R beats Team D, especially because Obama is team captain and there is some intense high school rivalry going on.

For example, on Israel, Obama has continued to expand the US' support of Israel in the same manner that Bush did. Obama has been praised by even neo-cons for his expansion of military support for Israel. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/09/25/obama-arms-israel.print.html
This includes a large volume of bunker-busters that may be used against Iran in any upcoming conflict. Not only does Obama continue to give record amounts of aid to Israel, but this support comes with absolutely no strings attached, no conditions or rules, unlike aid giving to every other foreign country.

Even Netanyahu himself said Obama deserves a badge of honor (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64034.html) for his consistent support for Israel in matters of foreign policy and international politics.

Increased financial aid, military aid, going against nearly the entire world to veto a very popular UN resolution to give palestinians statehood (this last one is particularly interesting because a 2-state solution has been the plan that every recent American president has endorsed, but when it came to the table Obama stood firm and refused to budge on it, very hypocritically).

In no way has Obama been anything than fully supportive of Israel, that's just what the facts say, however, in order to keep up this illusion of a great ideological war between the parties, the right-wing media has drummed up a fake story about Obama being "the most anti-Israel president in history". It's based on nothing but pure hysteria, but it's repeated often enough for millions of non-thinking people to accept it as fact.

In reality, both parties treat Israel about the same, there is no significant difference towards middle eastern policies and Israel-related policies, but it's drummed up into a big deal just to get people worked up.

That was one example but the list goes on and on. In terms of the so called "war on terror", Obama has continued everything that Bush started, Israel policy is the same. With the economy Obama has continued policies started by Bush, including tax cuts and bailouts. With healthcare Obama has put forward a plan that was originally a Republican plan by design.

However, in order to make conservatives enthusiastic about their lackluster group of potential nominees, the sheep herders must resort to their most effective tactic: ignorant fear. They know they can't get people to vote For their republican candidates, so instead they try to get people to vote against Obama. They do this by inventing this large ideological war that does not exist, and convincing gullible, fearful people that if they don't "stop Obama" that some Bolshevik revolution will occur any day now.

So instead of voting for good principles or sane policies, some people just end up voting against a boogy-man that embodies all of their fears, which has been projected onto Obama, and these people will vote for any Big Man who will make the boogy-man go away and tuck them in at night. Policies come later, that kind of discussion is for intellectuals and others pansies.

So, in other words, one cannot oppose Obama simply because he has proven to be a toxic incompetent whose ideology leads him to make disastrous decisions, but only because one is caught up in cheer-leading for one of two political teams? Just because you cannot distinguish the vast ideological and practical differences between the principles of the two major parties doesn't mean that everyone who does perceive them is a simpleton, it just means that when someone holds positions that are as extreme as yours, they cannot perceive much of anything beyond their own incredible biases. The fact that you present your myopic worldview with a healthy dose of elitist disdain simply makes it easier to peg you for what you are.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 12:17 AM
So, in other words, one cannot oppose Obama simply because he has proven to be a toxic incompetent whose ideology leads him to make disastrous decisions, but only because one is caught up in cheer-leading for one of two political teams? Just because you cannot distinguish the vast ideological and practical differences between the principles of the two major parties doesn't mean that everyone who does perceive them is a simpleton, it just means that when someone holds positions that are as extreme as yours, they cannot perceive much of anything beyond their own incredible biases. The fact that you present your myopic worldview with a healthy dose of elitist disdain simply makes it easier to peg you for what you are.

It's not that I can't perceive the supposed differences between the parties. Don't forget I watch Fox News every day and listen to right-wing radio whenever I can. I hear it constantly, I know all the talking points and in fact I can often agree with intelligent criticisms of liberalism and the Democratic Party. I'm saying I can see what the corporate media and right-wing are saying (because I listen to them with far higher degrees of patience and respect than I usually get in return) but I also see another picture which exposes holes in what the mainstream media constantly puts out.

Your constant hostility and eagerness to "win", which often comes across as overcompensating, seems to impede your ability to critically examine right-wing talking points.

I talk with conservatives hoping that they will help me to critically examine my own views (which has happened quite a bit over the years), but that doesn't happen when insults and chest-beating replaces respectful discussion.

Odysseus
12-19-2011, 01:31 AM
It's not that I can't perceive the supposed differences between the parties. Don't forget I watch Fox News every day and listen to right-wing radio whenever I can. I hear it constantly, I know all the talking points and in fact I can often agree with intelligent criticisms of liberalism and the Democratic Party. I'm saying I can see what the corporate media and right-wing are saying (because I listen to them with far higher degrees of patience and respect than I usually get in return) but I also see another picture which exposes holes in what the mainstream media constantly puts out.
I don't forget that you claim to watch and listen, I just don't believe it.


Your constant hostility and eagerness to "win", which often comes across as overcompensating, seems to impede your ability to critically examine right-wing talking points.
Wei, my hostility to you is based on the fact that I consider you an enabler of tyranny. If you had your way, I'd be going the way of my relatives who didn't get out of Russia, and found themselves caught between Stalin and Hitler. There's not a dime's worth of difference between a Marxist, a Nazi or a jihadist. All three are just different versions of totalitarianism. At best, you're a stooge, one of those faculty lounge clowns who thinks that there really is such a thing as socialism, even though you can't define it or explain it without constantly backpedaling. At worst, you know that it's a sham and don't care. Either way, I hold you in well-deserved contempt, and treat you the way that I would treat any other enemy of my country, and most of us feel the same way about you. Don't like it? Tough. Go find another board.


I talk with conservatives hoping that they will help me to critically examine my own views (which has happened quite a bit over the years), but that doesn't happen when insults and chest-beating replaces respectful discussion.
Oh, please. You come here to make snarky wisecracks and test your talking points. When we've tried to have discussions about what you believe, you've been unable to even define the most basic terms, and after a few exchanges, you get tired of being forced to present real discussion and wander off. Remember the thread in which I asked you the difference between socialism, communism and Marxism? Go back and reread your responses. The only person who couldn't see you floundering was you.

cowboyjack
01-08-2012, 06:23 PM
So no vote for Romney means you rather would have Obama in office for another 4 years.

Odysseus
01-08-2012, 10:01 PM
So no vote for Romney means you rather would have Obama in office for another 4 years.

Yeah, that's about the size of it for this clown.

Elspeth
01-08-2012, 10:22 PM
The point is beating Obama. That's all it's about. Beating Obama means you win some battle in an imaginary war. Policies be damned, as long as Obama loses.

Policies like indefinite detention of US citizens?

AmPat
01-08-2012, 10:40 PM
So instead of voting for good principles or sane policies, some people just end up voting against a boogy-man that embodies all of their fears, which has been projected onto Obama, and these people will vote for any Big Man who will make the boogy-man go away and tuck them in at night. Policies come later, that kind of discussion is for intellectuals and others pansies.
You cannot separate policies from the man. That is why Conservatives look for values in a candidate. O Blah Blah is the Boogeyman. No "projection " is necessary, he embodies and embraces all the damnable traits of socialist B.S. that we all vehemently hate.

That is why this election will be easy for Conservatives. We want a true Conservative but when all is said and done, we desire to boot the Marxist O Blah Blah in the ass. I assure you that we will join ranks even if Donald Duck and Goofy is on our ticket.

patriot45
01-08-2012, 11:21 PM
It all sucks, Romney was picked for us.

Rockntractor
01-09-2012, 12:03 AM
It all sucks, Romney was picked for us.

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/nose-picker.jpg

Powerlifter181
01-13-2012, 01:09 AM
I'll support Romney the second he wins the nomination from then on through election day but not a second before that. Romney's economic plan is incredibly vague and general and spends more time mincing words, and stating his opinion than actually putting forth policy proposals. To his credit, he gives a lot of context in the 87 page document but that really is most of what's in it. I prefer him to Obama but I think the fact that he's clearly not serious about overhauling the current tax code is very telling. He opts to keep the current individual rates.

Here's Huntsman's proposal which I think stands as the best example of a clear, concise, and comprehensive proposal of all the proposals produced by all candidates for the Republican nomination.

http://jon2012.com/issues/jobs-economy
http://www.jon2012.com/issues/energy-security-production

His foreign policy experience is also evident in his proposal.

http://jon2012.com/issues/foreign-policy

mike128
01-13-2012, 06:29 PM
Speaking of Jon Huntsman, here is an ad which the Huntsman campaign released a while ago demonstrating Romney's flip-flops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyMplwY6HY EhyMplwY6HY

Zathras
01-13-2012, 11:48 PM
Speaking of Jon Huntsman, here is an ad which the Huntsman campaign released a while ago demonstrating Romney's flip-flops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyMplwY6HY EhyMplwY6HY

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k50/siolfir/Fun%20Posters/deadhorse.jpg

mike128
01-16-2012, 07:49 AM
Zathras,

Could you PLEASE stop chasing me around the forums with your "dead horse" picture? Flip Romney is NOT a "dead horse", as long as he is on the verge of taking the Republican nomination. If Flip Romney left the race altogether, then I would understand your criticism. But Flip Romney is FAR from a "dead horse". Therefore, I am fully justified in criticizing Flip-Flop Romney.

djones520
01-16-2012, 10:16 AM
Zathras,

Could you PLEASE stop chasing me around the forums with your "dead horse" picture? Flip Romney is NOT a "dead horse", as long as he is on the verge of taking the Republican nomination. If Flip Romney left the race altogether, then I would understand your criticism. But Flip Romney is FAR from a "dead horse". Therefore, I am fully justified in criticizing Flip-Flop Romney.

No... you posting this same thing over and over again is beating the dead horse.

Give it up dude, your not gaining any ears, and your at best just forcing people to ignore you.

Odysseus
01-16-2012, 12:33 PM
Zathras,

Could you PLEASE stop chasing me around the forums with your "dead horse" picture? Flip Romney is NOT a "dead horse", as long as he is on the verge of taking the Republican nomination. If Flip Romney left the race altogether, then I would understand your criticism. But Flip Romney is FAR from a "dead horse". Therefore, I am fully justified in criticizing Flip-Flop Romney.

You have zero credibility here because you're a one-trick-pony, and it's not a particularly interesting trick. There's not a lot of difference between a one-trick-pony and a dead horse. Either way, the glue factory awaits.

Lanie
01-16-2012, 12:52 PM
I was telling my sister the other day that Romney is soooo going to win the election. The way I knew that was by the fact that the far right didn't like him. lol.

Zathras
01-16-2012, 01:16 PM
Zathras,

Could you PLEASE stop chasing me around the forums with your "dead horse" picture? Flip Romney is NOT a "dead horse", as long as he is on the verge of taking the Republican nomination. If Flip Romney left the race altogether, then I would understand your criticism. But Flip Romney is FAR from a "dead horse". Therefore, I am fully justified in criticizing Flip-Flop Romney.

Every time you post your hatred for Mitt Romney the picture is going up....deal with it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg