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hai
12-18-2011, 11:19 PM
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/18/9544976-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-il-dies

SarasotaRepub
12-18-2011, 11:20 PM
Breaking on CNN.com


I'm so upset...:rolleyes::D

djones520
12-18-2011, 11:24 PM
And the world can now breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:32 PM
This story is still breaking, there's little coverage on the cable networks:

More coverage here: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

hai
12-18-2011, 11:32 PM
And the world can now breathe a collective sigh of relief.

This.

:)

djones520
12-18-2011, 11:34 PM
I honestly hope that this is a good thing for N. Korea. I hope the son will begin to open things up, and allow his country to leave the dark ages. Even if it is just a move towards the Chinese view of government, it'll be better for the world over all.

Chuck58
12-18-2011, 11:34 PM
How sad.....:rolleyes:

He was so lovable and kind to his people. I'm sure the whole country is in mourning...;)

I haven't read much about his son. Is he as psychopathic as his old man?

djones520
12-18-2011, 11:38 PM
How sad.....:rolleyes:

He was so lovable and kind to his people. I'm sure the whole country is in mourning...;)

I haven't read much about his son. Is he as psychopathic as his old man?

Very little is known about him. He has had a western education, grew up mostly in Switzerland. Something I hope is a positive. He is a bit of a porker, for a Korean.

That's all I know of the guy.

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:40 PM
He was so lovable and kind to his people. I'm sure the whole country is in mourning...;)

I bet they are actually. I've heard they have extremely deep propaganda, all built around spectacle with their whole system based on veneration for the leader.

I don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that their schoolbooks claim that the leader is so pure that he doesn't (or didn't) have to defecate

Wei Wu Wei
12-18-2011, 11:44 PM
AJE reporters and authors are talking about China's support for the north korean regime. I didn't really think about this, but it makes sense that China has interests there.

Apocalypse
12-18-2011, 11:46 PM
He was so lovable and kind to his people. I'm sure the whole country is in mourning...;)



Sad fact is, they right now may be mourning his passing and fearing what we may do.

Kim Jong Il had his people brainwashed into thinking the war was still ongoing, and only through his supreme leadership he alone was holding off the advancement of the forces of evil.

But you must also ask another Q.

What will China do now. China doesn't like a change in the balance of power. And his passing will potentially be a massive one.

What will China do now?

Odysseus
12-18-2011, 11:54 PM
This story is still breaking, there's little coverage on the cable networks:

More coverage here: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
Al Jazeera? Really?

Very little is known about him. He has had a western education, grew up mostly in Switzerland. Something I hope is a positive. He is a bit of a porker, for a Korean.

That's all I know of the guy.
Especially for a North Korean. The country is undergoing the kind of famine that only doctrinaire Marxism can impose, but his father died from, for lack of a better term, high living. From the obit:


The leader, reputed to have had a taste for cigars, cognac and gourmet cuisine, was believed to have had diabetes and heart disease

Meanwhile, his people were being systematically starved by the hell on earth that he and his father imposed, which has earned him a place in the real thing.


I bet they are actually. I've heard they have extremely deep propaganda, all built around spectacle with their whole system based on veneration for the leader.

I don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that their schoolbooks claim that the leader is so pure that he doesn't (or didn't) have to defecate

Yes, Wei, we know the kind of propaganda that Marxists are capable of spewing. Now, while we realize that you're in mourning, the rest of us would like to take a moment and bask in the improved atmosphere of the planet that no longer has to suffer this bastard's presence.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 12:10 AM
Al Jazeera? Really?


Yes really. Get over yourself. Go through every US cable network and see the coverage, then flip over to Al Jazeera and see what's better and more in depth.

I turned it on Fox earlier and saw a clip from Team America World Police with a kim jong il puppet :rolleyes:

Check the networks right now and see for yourself, it won't hurt too bad I promise. otherwise just deal with it.

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/


Especially for a North Korean. The country is undergoing the kind of famine that only doctrinaire Marxism can impose, but his father died from, for lack of a better term, high living. From the obit:


The leader, reputed to have had a taste for cigars, cognac and gourmet cuisine, was believed to have had diabetes and heart disease

Meanwhile, his people were being systematically starved by the hell on earth that he and his father imposed, which has earned him a place in the real thing.

Your desperation is stunning.

The guy is dead, and let's hope for the people of North Korea that his successor can bring that country into this century. I don't think they are going to end up with a western-style system, but let's hope they are at least able to feed their people.

They fell into one of the same major traps that the USSR fell into: overfunding their military while their more basic institutions were failing.






Yes, Wei, we know the kind of propaganda that Marxists are capable of spewing. Now, while we realize that you're in mourning, the rest of us would like to take a moment and bask in the improved atmosphere of the planet that no longer has to suffer this bastard's presence.
:rolleyes:

You've got way too much to prove buddy

Kay
12-19-2011, 12:15 AM
The country is undergoing the kind of famine that only doctrinaire Marxism can impose, but his father died from, for lack of a better term, high living. From the obit:


The leader, reputed to have had a taste for cigars, cognac and gourmet cuisine, was believed to have had diabetes and heart disease

it always makes me mad when someone like this lives a long life and dies from natural causes associated with " the good life". I'd much rather he had died at the hand of his own people who'd had enough of him....just like Gaddafi did.

Articulate_Ape
12-19-2011, 12:17 AM
I'm sure the whole country is in mourning...;)



One wonders if they even know he's dead.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 12:21 AM
it always makes me mad when someone like this lives a long life and dies from natural causes associated with " the good life". I'd much rather he had died at the hand of his own people who'd had enough of him....just like Gaddafi did.

Karma's a bitch though. He thought he had it all, and he has his people brainwashed, but his own indulgences led to a relatively early death (for someone with as much access as himself). He got his.

Sure he may have had lots of power and material luxuries, but I bet if we could have gotten inside of his mind, we would have seen that it was not good to be him (at least I like to think so)

Rockntractor
12-19-2011, 12:38 AM
Karma's a bitch though. He thought he had it all, and he has his people brainwashed, but his own indulgences led to a relatively early death (for someone with as much access as himself). He got his.

Sure he may have had lots of power and material luxuries, but I bet if we could have gotten inside of his mind, we would have seen that it was not good to be him (at least I like to think so)

Did your parents help pay for your education?

Janice
12-19-2011, 12:43 AM
Waaaaaait a minute. Wait a minute. Stop the presses. Wasn't he a "god"? Kinda like our very own humble and benevolent Lord Stinky?

Dan D. Doty
12-19-2011, 12:53 AM
I believe that NK will turn chaotic and China will have to step in and do something about it.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 12:59 AM
Did your parents help pay for your education?

No they didn't, I got a job when I was 16 and kept working throughout college.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 01:01 AM
I believe that NK will turn chaotic and China will have to step in and do something about it.

People on AJE are speculating that his son will be formally declared the new leader, either soon or after a period of mourning, with top officials and military leaders having heavy influence in how things run. It doesn't seem that chaos is around the corner, but China will certainly push it's influence in there

jendf
12-19-2011, 01:01 AM
Waaaaaait a minute. Wait a minute. Stop the presses. Wasn't he a "god"? Kinda like our very own humble and benevolent Lord Stinky?

He was my least favorite puppet in Team America.

Rockntractor
12-19-2011, 01:02 AM
No they didn't, I got a job when I was 16 and kept working throughout college.

Good, I would have felt bad for them.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 01:04 AM
Good, I would have felt bad for them.

Well we can't all go to Glenn Beck University

Starbuck
12-19-2011, 01:06 AM
I'm betting on not much change in North Korea.

In any event, I am of the belief that each of us should be allowed to live his life until its natural end and he evidently met that goal. North Korea is announcing that Kim died from a heart attack.

Asian stock markets are in sharp retreat at this hour, but they have been weak for a very long time. I'm not even sure there is even a real connection. South Korea for one year:
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/kaavio.Webhost/charts/big.chart?nosettings=1&symb=EWY&uf=0&type=2&size=2&sid=177329&style=320&freq=1&time=8&rand=2026341653&compidx=&ma=0&maval=9&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&height=335&width=579&mocktick=1

RedGrouse
12-19-2011, 01:17 AM
Good riddance to bad rubbish. :D:cool:

Odysseus
12-19-2011, 01:17 AM
Yes really. Get over yourself. Go through every US cable network and see the coverage, then flip over to Al Jazeera and see what's better and more in depth.

I turned it on Fox earlier and saw a clip from Team America World Police with a kim jong il puppet :rolleyes:

Check the networks right now and see for yourself, it won't hurt too bad I promise. otherwise just deal with it.

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
I've seen enough al Jazeera in my time. We had to monitor it during my Iraq tour because the bad guys used to furnish them with footage of their ops, which they happily played as propaganda. If you're looking for a greater depth of anti-American sentiment than the usual CNN fair, then they're the place to go (although MSNBC gives them a run for their money), but if you want intelligent news coverage that doesn't double as propaganda for the latest fad in Third World thuggery, go elsewhere.


Your desperation is stunning.
My desperation? Try the desperation of his people, who are being subjected to man-made famine in order to keep them in line.


The guy is dead, and let's hope for the people of North Korea that his successor can bring that country into this century. I don't think they are going to end up with a western-style system, but let's hope they are at least able to feed their people.

They fell into one of the same major traps that the USSR fell into: overfunding their military while their more basic institutions were failing.
Don't you get it? Keeping North Korea isolated, backwards and on the verge of collapse took tremendous effort.

Here are two articles on related subjects, which pretty much explain everything:


UN fears tragedy over North Korean food shortage
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/17/korea.food

Tania Branigan in Beijing
The Guardian, Wednesday 16 April 2008
Article history
The hand-to-mouth existence of North Korea's 23 million inhabitants is at risk of deteriorating into "a serious tragedy", the UN food agency warned yesterday.

Long-term food shortages have been exacerbated by last year's floods, which devastated the country's agricultural production, while key donors China and South Korea are expected to reduce their direct aid to the country this year.

Relations on the peninsula have deteriorated sharply since the new South Korean president, Lee Myung-bak, took power in February. Pyongyang is furious at his insistence that humanitarian assistance depends on the progress it makes in dismantling its nuclear weapons programme, a break with the previous "sunshine policy" of engagement.

The World Food Programme estimates that already 6.5 million people are short of food. It said state rations were dwindling while prices in markets had doubled - with a kilogram of rice now costing around one-third of a typical worker's monthly salary.

"The food security situation is clearly bad and getting worse," said Tony Banbury, Asia regional director for WFP. "It is increasingly likely that external assistance will be required to avert a tragedy."

Jean-Pierre de Margerie, WFP's country director in North Korea, told the Associated Press that officials had admitted for the first time that they were having to reduce or suspend state rations. "It's a bit of a perfect storm shaping up," he said.

The hostile relationship with South Korea is taking its toll: Seoul has not sent its annual fertiliser donation to the north, which de Margerie said was likely to cause a decrease in this year's harvest.

Hundreds of thousands of North Koreans are believed to have died in the famine of the 1990s.

In fact, the Guardian soft pedals it. Independent analysis estimates between 800,000 and 1.5 million people died from starvation, but exile groups cite figures as high as 3.5 million dead. The Wikipedia article on North Korea's famine states that "A study by South Korean anthropologists of North Korean children who had defected to China found that 18-year-old males were 5 inches shorter than South Koreans their age. Roughly 45 per cent of North Korean children under the age of five are stunted from malnutrition."

Now, the other article:


The unpalatable appetites of Kim Jong-il
While his people are left to subsist on boiled grass and ground tree bark, North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-il indulges shamelessly in only the world’s finest food and wines

By Barbara Demick9:00AM BST 08 Oct 2011

In 2003 a Japanese sushi chef bearing the pseudonym Kenji Fujimoto penned a memoir that gave rise to the expression 'cook and tell’. The subject of Fujimoto’s indiscretion was Kim Jong-il, for whom he had served as personal chef for more than a decade. The rotund North Korean leader had greater passion for good food than for beautiful women, allowing his chef as intimate an understanding of his psyche as any of his many purported mistresses, though none of them – as far as I know – ever wrote a memoir.
Fujimoto was recruited in 1982 by a Japanese-Korean trading company to work at an elite restaurant in Pyongyang for $5,000 per month. Six years later he was asked to be the personal cook for Kim Jong-il, then the heir apparent to his father, North Korea’s founder, Kim Il-sung. As Fujimoto tells it, he soon became a companion to the younger Kim. Both men were in their forties at the time. They went riding, hunting and jet-skiing together. They ogled dancing girls at banquets. But most of all, they obsessed about food. Fujimoto ingratiated himself with Kim through his superior knowledge of food. They talked recipes. Fujimoto regaled his patron with anecdotes from Japan’s great kitchens and markets, especially Tokyo’s Tsukiji fish market, where Fujimoto had spent six months learning how to fillet fish. He showed Kim videos of cooking shows that Fujimoto’s sister had taped from Japanese television.

Although Kim was at the time renowned for his heft (only 5ft 2in tall, he weighed more than 14st), the North Korean was a gourmet, not a glutton. He took food seriously and had several thousand cookbooks. His palate was so sensitive that he could detect if the kitchen added a few grams too much sugar to the sushi rice. Before cooking the rice, the kitchen staff would inspect each grain individually and discard any blemished by irregularities of shape or colour. He ate only the choicest foods and loved the fatty cut of tuna known as toro.

Sometimes Fujimoto would prepare sashimi using a trick he had learnt at Tsukiji, slicing so the vital organs were spared and the fish was served writhing on the platter. Kim loved shark’s fin, a delicacy across Asia, and poshintang, a dog-meat soup that Koreans believe strengthens immunity and virility.

Money was no object when it came to food. Fujimoto made shopping trips around the world to pick up ingredients – to Iran and Uzbekistan for caviar, to Denmark for pork, to Thailand for mangoes, durians and papayas. On a whim, Kim once sent Fujimoto to pick up a box of his favourite rice cakes, which were scented with mugwort and available only at a department store in Tokyo. Fujimoto later evaluated the trip and put the cost of each bite-size morsel at $120.

Here's the point that you don't get, Wei: The starvation in North Korea wasn't the result of a policy failure, it was the policy. It was deliberate, just as Stalin's famine was deliberate. Kim didn't feed his army because he feared outside invasion, he fed it because it was the only thing that allowed him to control the country. Starvation was rampant, by every measure, and even among the elites, malnutrition was endemic. Meanwhile, his kitchen staff was throwing away perfectly good food because it failed to meet his aesthetic standards!


:rolleyes:

You've got way too much to prove buddy

No, I've got plenty of proof. It's you who's trying to prove that socialism isn't a perpetual, dismal failure. Well, one of your icons just bit the dust, which is probably the least luxurious thing that he's ever bitten into. He lived a lifestyle that would make our billionaire's blush, and he did it while systematically starving his people as a means of controlling them. The military and security apparatus are is the only institutions in North Korea that function, just as it was in the USSR, because they were the only ones that mattered. Socialism demands that power is concentrated in the hands of a dictatorial class, and that means that everyone else has to be kept in a constant state of want and fear.


Karma's a bitch though. He thought he had it all, and he has his people brainwashed, but his own indulgences led to a relatively early death (for someone with as much access as himself). He got his.

Sure he may have had lots of power and material luxuries, but I bet if we could have gotten inside of his mind, we would have seen that it was not good to be him (at least I like to think so)

Wanna bet? Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Mao reveled in the horrors that they imposed. Che Guevara had a window put into his office in La Cabana prison so that he could watch the executions that he'd ordered. Every one of them thought that he was doing the work of the grand design of history, as interpreted by Marx or some other crackpot. To them, the dead that resulted from their policies were just eggs that had to be broken for their vast omelet. Kim, like the rest of your idols, lacked a conscience.

djones520
12-19-2011, 01:25 AM
I'm betting on not much change in North Korea.

In any event, I am of the belief that each of us should be allowed to live his life until its natural end and he evidently met that goal. North Korea is announcing that Kim died from a heart attack.

Asian stock markets are in sharp retreat at this hour, but they have been weak for a very long time. I'm not even sure there is even a real connection. South Korea for one year:



It is definitely related. Uncertainty leads to dropping prices. And know one has any clue what is going to happen.

CueSi
12-19-2011, 01:48 AM
Unlike Christopher Hitchens... I do hope there is somewhere awful for him to go.

~QC

Apache
12-19-2011, 01:55 AM
The guy is dead, and let's hope for the people of North Korea that his successor can bring that country into this century. I don't think they are going to end up with a western-style system, but let's hope they are at least able to feed their people.

They fell into one of the same major traps that the USSR fell into: overfunding their military while their more basic institutions were failing.








LOL!1111!!11eleventyone!111

My. Dear. Lord! You have no idea how RETARDEST you are, do you?

It'll take 7 years just to get them to the 13th century....

Zathras
12-19-2011, 02:00 AM
One thing you have to say about Dear Leader....he really knew how to throw a party....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zprL0KmvNM

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 02:12 AM
One thing you have to say about Dear Leader....he really knew how to throw a party....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zprL0KmvNM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwoSFQb5HVk
:cool:

NJCardFan
12-19-2011, 10:40 AM
This story is still breaking, there's little coverage on the cable networks:

More coverage here: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

LOL@ Wee believing that Al Jazeera is an unbiased news source.

Molon Labe
12-19-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that their schoolbooks claim that the leader is so pure that he doesn't (or didn't) have to defecate

Sounds like what some Obama supporters I knew used to think before the inauguration.

Something about crapping golden eggs or something too.

Not really any different in this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

Starbuck
12-19-2011, 11:13 AM
Sounds like what some Obama supporters I knew used to think before the inauguration.

Something about crapping golden eggs or something too.

Not really any different in this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU
Well, except that here we can ridicule such actions and probably not be executed for doing so.

DumbAss Tanker
12-19-2011, 12:11 PM
Well, except that here we can ridicule such actions and probably not be executed for doing so.

Not unless he gets re-elected and keeps Holder as AG, anyway.

hai
12-19-2011, 07:09 PM
This story is still breaking, there's little coverage on the cable networks:

More coverage here: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

I used to be a adventurer such as yourself,until i took a arrow to the knee.

Wei Wu Wei
12-19-2011, 07:26 PM
I used to be a adventurer such as yourself,until i took a arrow to the knee.

lol yess

Rockntractor
12-19-2011, 07:35 PM
lol yess

I think you took a sharp blow to the head didn't you?:confused:

Bailey
12-19-2011, 08:13 PM
I used to be a adventurer such as yourself,until i took a arrow to the knee.

Coolest game since fallout :)


Someone made a video of himself going around shooting npc's in the knee lol

AmPat
12-19-2011, 08:40 PM
I thought the flying monkeys were supposed to rejoice.:confused:

CueSi
12-19-2011, 08:48 PM
lol yess

Gamer memes. Prolly the only thing people on this forum would have a moment over.

~QC

Lanie
12-19-2011, 11:17 PM
Breaking on CNN.com


I'm so upset...:rolleyes::D

His probably Communist son is taking over. It probably makes no difference. :(

Odysseus
12-20-2011, 12:39 AM
Now that the levity is over, here's the overview:

First, the announcement came from North Korea's state-run media:


"Kim Chong-Il, general secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), chairman of the DPRK National Defense Commission and supreme commander of the Korean People's Army, passed away from a great mental and physical strain at 08:30 December 17, 2011, on a train during a field guidance tour."

"The WPK Central Committee and Central Military Commission, DPRK National Defense Commission, Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly and Cabinet released a notice on Saturday informing the WPK members, servicepersons and all other people of his passing away."

"All party members, military men and the public should faithfully follow the leadership of comrade Kim Jong-un and protect and further strengthen the unified front of the party, military and the public," the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported. The cause of death was a heart attack, which occurred while he was on the train, according to a later official report.

This means that the people of North Korea know that he is dead. The funeral, which will be headed by Kim Jong-un, will be held in Pyongyang on 28 December. This is part and parcel of the transition plan that Kim Jong Il had in place. His brother-in-law, Chang Song-taek, is the regent for Jong-un, who was appointed as a four star general without any military service. On paper, he has the rank and position to take charge, but that's only on paper. Jong-un has no military training or experience, but was given the rank of general, which the real military brass resents. Expect either a purge or a coup in the next couple of years. And, if we're expecting it, you can bet that Kim Jong-un and his cadre are, so the North Koreans are at a very high state of alert, which means that South Korean forces also are on alert. That's where we are tactically.

Strategically, things are potentially scary. There's pressure on Li'l Kim to prove himself. Kim Il-Sung led the North against the Japanese and the South. He paved the way for Kim Chong-il's transition, which kept the long knives at bay until Kim Jong-il could assume full control, at which point he and his cronies oversaw North Korea's emergence as a nuclear power with ballistic missiles, something beyond Kim Il-sung's accomplishments. The great unfinished work of the Kims is the reunification of Korea under northern control. The pressure on Li'l Kim to outdo his father's and grandfather's legacy will be intense. Kim III lacks the credibility with his countrymen to simply coast along, and the experience needed to know when he is overreaching, so he is likely to do something fare more provocative than his forebears.

djones520
12-20-2011, 01:01 AM
Or this kid whose spent some time living in the west, being advised by a bunch of generals who quite possibly are sick of the status qou could attempt to usher in a new age for N. Korea. Think of the grounds of improvement that could be made, and how thankful his people would be to him.

But I'm probably being overly optimistic on this one, and things will probably just remain the same as they have over the past 50 years or so.

Rockntractor
12-20-2011, 01:24 AM
Or this kid whose spent some time living in the west, being advised by a bunch of generals who quite possibly are sick of the status qou could attempt to usher in a new age for N. Korea. Think of the grounds of improvement that could be made, and how thankful his people would be to him.

But I'm probably being overly optimistic on this one, and things will probably just remain the same as they have over the past 50 years or so.
You never know, if he is smart your optimism could happen.

txradioguy
12-20-2011, 05:38 AM
So I guess Wee Wee and Wilbur and Nova will enter a 30 day period of mourning over the death of their Dear Leader?

Zathras
12-20-2011, 05:45 AM
I used to be a adventurer such as yourself,until i took a arrow to the knee.

I thought about playing that game but then I took a blaster bolt to the knee.....and then shot the person who shot me and claimed the bounty on his head.

DumbAss Tanker
12-20-2011, 11:34 AM
They have ballistic missiles, and they have sort-of nuclear weapons, but whether they have a nuke package small enough to put on one of their not-particularly large or long-ranged missiles is far from a sure thing.

I tend to look at it as a situation that really can't get much more unstable than it already was, so any change has at least a 50-50 chance of being an improvement.

Adam Wood
12-20-2011, 12:41 PM
Kim Jong Il has died.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nc2iiv.jpg

Janice
12-20-2011, 06:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/N2ylk.jpg

Number 3 at State Dept. on Kim Jong Il: Smart, Witty, Problem-Solver, Humorous, Engaged (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/number-3-state-dept-kim-jong-il-smart-witty-problem-solver-humorous-engaged_614495.html)

Wendy Sherman, undersecretary of state for political affairs at the State Department, had some rather nice things to say about the reclusive Kim Jong Il, the dictatorial leader of North Korea who died a few days ago. >>>

An NPR obituary quotes the high ranking State Department official as saying that "He was smart and a quick problem-solver," and that "[Kim Jong Il] is also witty and humorous. >>>

Rather odd praise considering the North Korean regime is possibly the most evil in the world.

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I believe most of those employed by the 0bama regime have a special affinity for most of the worlds evil tyrants and dictators. Much like the Czar in Chief and his wife do in the White House. Envious of their power I suppose.

Zathras
12-20-2011, 11:52 PM
You know, it's been 6 pages and I'm surprised nobody posted this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hkAfd2vBOI

AmPat
12-21-2011, 11:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/N2ylk.jpg

Number 3 at State Dept. on Kim Jong Il: Smart, Witty, Problem-Solver, Humorous, Engaged (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/number-3-state-dept-kim-jong-il-smart-witty-problem-solver-humorous-engaged_614495.html)

Wendy Sherman, undersecretary of state for political affairs at the State Department, had some rather nice things to say about the reclusive Kim Jong Il, the dictatorial leader of North Korea who died a few days ago. >>>

An NPR obituary quotes the high ranking State Department official as saying that "He was smart and a quick problem-solver," and that "[Kim Jong Il] is also witty and humorous. >>>

Rather odd praise considering the North Korean regime is possibly the most evil in the world.

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I believe most of those employed by the 0bama regime have a special affinity for most of the worlds evil tyrants and dictators. Much like the Czar in Chief and his wife do in the White House. Envious of their power I suppose.
Watching masses of your people die of starvation is hilarious to liberals.

Lanie
12-21-2011, 02:35 PM
Am I the only person wanting to laugh at the mourners on TV? It's not so much that they're mourning, but how they are. It's literally Booooooohoooooooooo. Really? Hush.

Starbuck
12-21-2011, 02:47 PM
"witty and humorous.":confused:

Witty AND Humorous. Both. You just don't pick that up in the pictures, do you?
But, come to think of it, he does look like he's having more fun than Bill in this (I think) intentionally fuzzed out photo:
http://images.nymag.com/daily/intel/20090804_billandkim_250x375.jpg


Oh, HERE he is having fun! Now, I see.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/19/article-2075987-0F38B24600000578-614_470x423.jpg

Odysseus
12-21-2011, 04:37 PM
Am I the only person wanting to laugh at the mourners on TV? It's not so much that they're mourning, but how they are. It's literally Booooooohoooooooooo. Really? Hush.

That's actually a pretty sad spectacle. The people who are sincere about it are as brainwashed as the Russians who mourned Stalin, even after he had imposed mass terror on them. The ones who fake it are just trying to stay alive. Neither is particularly uplifting.

OTOH, Vaclav Havel, who was the first president of post-Soviet Czechoslovakia, and then the Czech Republic, also died this week, to very little fanfare. Havel spent his entire life in opposition to the Kims of the world, enduring imprisonment, torture and everything else that the Soviets could do to someone who wouldn't toe their line. Doesn't his passing warrant more grief than the passing of a spoiled, petty and monstrous tyrant?

SarasotaRepub
12-21-2011, 09:54 PM
http://rlv.zcache.com/kim_jong_il_tshirt-p235236572219453386z85t7_400.jpg


Pooor widdle me.....I'm so roonly. :D

SarasotaRepub
12-21-2011, 10:12 PM
Am I the only person wanting to laugh at the mourners on TV? It's not so much that they're mourning, but how they are. It's literally Booooooohoooooooooo. Really? Hush.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUivT-m3q2xB1q_aKYwsxNuFV0SWAihczqIR5fCXjEfntU8tVGLg

:D

SarasotaRepub
12-21-2011, 10:32 PM
http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2009/11/alec-baldwin17-300x152.jpg

I'm going to have to watch Team America. Again. :D

SarasotaRepub
12-21-2011, 10:36 PM
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/small/1003/team-america-team-america-arabic-language-lesson-demotivational-poster-1268629583.jpg

:D

JB
12-22-2011, 06:31 PM
He was an amazing athlete.

In his first golf outing he shot a 34 (38 under par) making either 5 or 11 holes-in-one, depending on the source. He immediately retired from the sport.

Also, in his first attempt at bowling, he rolled a 300.

I can't imagine why he never went pro in either sport. Guess he didn't need the money and oppression is just sooooo time consuming.

Arroyo_Doble
12-22-2011, 06:38 PM
He was an amazing athlete.

In his first golf outing he shot a 34 (38 under par) making either 5 or 11 holes-in-one, depending on the source. He immediately retired from the sport.

Also, in his first attempt at bowling, he rolled a 300.

I can't imagine why he never went pro in either sport. Guess he didn't need the money and oppression is just sooooo time consuming.

And he really stuck that landing in the '76 Games. He truly deserved the gold in women's gymnastics.

JB
12-22-2011, 06:58 PM
And he really stuck that landing in the '76 Games. He truly deserved the gold in women's gymnastics.Was that a Nadia Comaneci joke? You know she's 50? How old does that make you feel.

Gratuitous Nadia and Condi photo:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Comaneci05.jpg