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txradioguy
12-22-2011, 12:58 PM
Rick Santorum, more than most presidential candidates, enjoys stumping in small Iowa towns. He’ll gladly spend hours at VFW halls and in church basements, even if only a handful of people are present. These trail gatherings remind him of his childhood in western Pennsylvania, where he grew up in a blue-collar neighborhood. His parents, traditional Roman Catholics, socialized in similar settings and, as employees of the Veterans Administration, encouraged their seven children to celebrate their faith and country. During the Vietnam era, Santorum’s father, an Italian immigrant, would often bring his son to work, introducing him to wounded soldiers.

On the campaign trail over the past month, Santorum has frequently spoken about his childhood. Yes, he served in the United States Senate from 1995 until he lost his 2006 reelection bid. But these days, in the eleventh hour of the primary, it’s his roots and principles, his scrappy persona, that are stirring renewed interest in his candidacy. In the latest Public Policy Polling survey, his Iowa support has risen, hitting 10 percent, a mere four points behind Newt Gingrich with less than two weeks until the caucuses. Those numbers are close to those of other second-tier contenders, but Santorum has something they do not: upward momentum.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/286490/santorum-dark-horse-robert-costa

Molon Labe
12-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Ricks a likeable guy. I think he means well.

mike128
12-22-2011, 05:24 PM
I really like Rick Santorum. He ia a strong conservative. He would definitely get my support if he won the GOP nomination.

SaintLouieWoman
12-22-2011, 06:59 PM
I really like Rick Santorum. He ia a strong conservative. He would definitely get my support if he won the GOP nomination.

It would be tougher to throw a lot of dirt at him, but I'm sure Obama and crew would come up with something. :rolleyes:

MrsSmith
12-22-2011, 08:40 PM
It would be tougher to throw a lot of dirt at him, but I'm sure Obama and crew would come up with something. :rolleyes:

Oh, they already have it waiting in the wings. He is a horrible animal abuser for hauling a dog in a crate on top of his car (just as though dogs aren't hauled in crates in the back of pickups all over the country.)
AND he has pictures of his stillborn child, which to them is the height of sickness...why would anyone take pictures of and mourn "fetal remains?" Besides all that, he "suppresses" his wife, she is a lawyer that chose to stay home with their 7 children and homeschool...and they didn't let their youngest one die after birth despite her handicaps, another "sick, sick" thing they did. Almost as bad as Palin keeping Trig. The obvious anti-Christian bigotry is running rampant on the left.

Molon Labe
12-22-2011, 09:06 PM
Santorum, Bachman, and Huntsman failed to make the deadline to get on Virginia's ballot. (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/dec/22/bachmann-huntsman-santorum-not-on-va-primary-ballo-ar-1563033/)If they have had that poor of organization in VA then there are probably a dozen other primary states they've failed to register for.

You can't get the nomination by doing that.

It's down to 4.

SaintLouieWoman
12-22-2011, 09:31 PM
Santorum, Bachman, and Huntsman failed to make the deadline to get on Virginia's ballot. (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/dec/22/bachmann-huntsman-santorum-not-on-va-primary-ballo-ar-1563033/)If they have had that poor of organization in VA then there are probably a dozen other primary states they've failed to register for.

You can't get the nomination by doing that.

It's down to 4.
Heard that Newt was there today, getting on the ballot in Virginia. Sad that Bachman neglected that, after all her work in Iowa.

Janice
12-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Well thats it. All the true conservatives are on the outs.

Now we're left with conservative and republican pretenders and a nut job.

mike128
12-23-2011, 01:57 AM
Evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, president of The Family Leader, has recently called on Michele Bachmann to consider stepping down and throw her support behind either Rick Santorum or Rick Perry. Here's the link:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bachmann-confirms-christian-leader-asked-her-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/


I really don't know what to make of this, because I could easily see myself supporting Michele Bachmann, as well.

It is true that Santorum, Perry and Bachmann are all splitting the conservative vote. Which is why we have Mitt, Newt and a wierdo in the lead.

txradioguy
12-23-2011, 05:22 AM
Well thats it. All the true conservatives are on the outs.

Now we're left with conservative and republican pretenders and a nut job.


Sadly you're right. I'm hoping Perry will make a surge again.

Molon Labe
12-23-2011, 08:29 PM
Sadly you're right. I'm hoping Perry will make a surge again.

woops. Looks like he's gone too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/perry-disqualified-from-va-primary-ballot/2011/12/23/gIQA3BZNEP_blog.html


Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry failed to submit enough valid signatures to qualify for the Virginia primary ballot, state GOP officials said Friday evening.


Perry’s campaign told state election officials it had submitted 11,911 signatures, but a Virginia Republican familiar with the situation said that the Texas governor did not submit the required 10,000.


They have not examined Gingrich’s signatures yet, but expected to do so by late Friday night.

A close source of mine says Gingrich actually submitted less sigs than Perry. Hope that's not a problem.

What a mess these guys are. If Newt had less sigs than Perry my guess is he's sweating bullets right now.

They want to run the country? lol...

mike128
12-23-2011, 10:41 PM
Well, if it really is between Newt and Flip-Flop Romney, I'll hold my nose and vote for Newt in the general election. I'll definitely be sitting this one out if Romney is the nominee.

As far as the primaries go, I'll be voting for either Bachmann or Santorum, regardless of what the polls say.

AmPat
12-24-2011, 12:47 PM
Santorum, Bachmann, and Perry are the three I'd support at this point. The two progressive GOPers, Romney and Newt don't inspire me.

mike128
12-24-2011, 10:05 PM
Everyone on this forum seems to be saying esentially the same thing - that Santorum, Bachmann and Perry are the real conservatives in the race. So why the hell are Newt and Mr. Flip-Flop the so-called front-runners?? (And what's the deal with Ron Paul leading in Iowa??)

Something is very wrong here. :mad:

Rockntractor
12-24-2011, 10:14 PM
Everyone on this forum seems to be saying esentially the same thing - that Santorum, Bachmann and Perry are the real conservatives in the race. So why the hell are Newt and Mr. Flip-Flop the so-called front-runners?? (And what's the deal with Ron Paul leading in Iowa??)

Something is very wrong here. :mad:

The party leaders will not allow true conservatives, they tried to block Reagan too.
Ron Paul is a misplaced rebellion.

AmPat
12-25-2011, 10:43 AM
Everyone on this forum seems to be saying esentially the same thing - that Santorum, Bachmann and Perry are the real conservatives in the race. So why the hell are Newt and Mr. Flip-Flop the so-called front-runners?? (And what's the deal with Ron Paul leading in Iowa??)

Something is very wrong here. :mad:Three things:
1. Ignorant, sound bite voters
2. The media attacking our candidates (again), thus choosing our eventual nominee, and
3. See below courtesy of Rock.


The party leaders will not allow true conservatives, they tried to block Reagan too.
Ron Paul is a misplaced rebellion.

mike128
12-25-2011, 11:05 PM
Does anyone remember how "in love" the liberal media was with John McCain back in 2004? Remember when it was rumored that John Kerry was going to ask McCain to be his running mate? Well guess what? McCain eventually became the Republican nominee in 2008. Problem was, by that time, the liberal media had fallen "in love" with someone else, who is now, unfortunately, in the White House.

Same thing will happen if Flip-Flop Romney wins the nomination. Romney is not a conservative, so the base won't show up. Meanwhile, the liberal media will put Obama on a pedestal and independents will get brainwashed again like they did in 2008.

Nobody thought a real conservative like Reagan could win back in 1980, yet he won two consecutive landslide elections in both 1980 and 1984. We need a real conservative to beat Obama, folks. Running Democrat-lite against a Democrat has never worked in the past, and it won't work this time either.

RobJohnson
12-26-2011, 04:22 AM
Everyone on this forum seems to be saying esentially the same thing - that Santorum, Bachmann and Perry are the real conservatives in the race. So why the hell are Newt and Mr. Flip-Flop the so-called front-runners?? (And what's the deal with Ron Paul leading in Iowa??)

Something is very wrong here. :mad:

It's due to the fact it pulls the independents and so-called moderates from Obama...

AmPat
12-26-2011, 01:37 PM
Does anyone remember how "in love" the liberal media was with John McCain back in 2004? Remember when it was rumored that John Kerry was going to ask McCain to be his running mate? Well guess what? McCain eventually became the Republican nominee in 2008. Problem was, by that time, the liberal media had fallen "in love" with someone else, who is now, unfortunately, in the White House.

Same thing will happen if Flip-Flop Romney wins the nomination. Romney is not a conservative, so the base won't show up. Meanwhile, the liberal media will put Obama on a pedestal and independents will get brainwashed again like they did in 2008.

Nobody thought a real conservative like Reagan could win back in 1980, yet he won two consecutive landslide elections in both 1980 and 1984. We need a real conservative to beat Obama, folks. Running Democrat-lite against a Democrat has never worked in the past, and it won't work this time either.
You're preaching to the choir. We all know that. It is frustrating but we have to work in the ONLY system we have. It is flawed but what choice do you have?

mike128
12-26-2011, 03:29 PM
You're preaching to the choir. We all know that. It is frustrating but we have to work in the ONLY system we have. It is flawed but what choice do you have?
I'm sorry, but I just don't consider Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flopper Mitt Romney, who created the blueprint for Obamacare, to be a real choice.

Molon Labe
12-26-2011, 04:05 PM
I'm sorry, but I just don't consider Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flopper Mitt Romney, who created the blueprint for Obamacare, to be a real choice.

there's a real good video of Fred Thompson calling out this punk in 2008 debates. Wish I could find it.

Romney is living eptiome of Bob Dylan's "Blowing in the Wind"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCmiFcRyIc

mike128
12-26-2011, 10:04 PM
Romney is living eptiome of Bob Dylan's "Blowing in the Wind"
Exactly! I am in no way a Jon Huntsman fan. But here's an anti-Romney ad from the Huntsman campaign that is funny as hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyMplwY6HY EhyMplwY6HY

If you think this is bad, watch and see what happens if the Obama political machine gets to take on Romney in the general election. Nominating Flip Romney is a big mistake!!

Rockntractor
12-26-2011, 10:13 PM
If you think this is bad, watch and see what happens if the Obama political machine gets to take on Romney in the general election. Nominating Flip Romney is a big mistake!!

It is almost as if the republican establishment wants to lose. Who knows, insurmountable debt, tanking economy.:confused:

Tecate
12-26-2011, 11:26 PM
It is almost as if the republican establishment wants to lose. Who knows, insurmountable debt, tanking economy.:confused:
Nah, they're all just frontmen, figureheads, and puppets who don't really run anything and take their orders from the big six mega-banks and the fortune 100 - all with off-shore interests and no particular allegiance to the USA. Take away the D's and the R's and there isn't a dime's worth of difference between any of them. They're all simply jockeying to be named CEO of Slavery Inc.

Once you begin viewing everything through that lens, things that made no sense before suddenly become very clear. A nice little bonus is that it's actually FUN to hate these maggots. :D;)

Molon Labe
12-26-2011, 11:43 PM
If you think this is bad, watch and see what happens if the Obama political machine gets to take on Romney in the general election. Nominating Flip Romney is a big mistake!!

I agree. When the Soros money comes rolling in, all big O' has to do is run ads showing how much he and Romney agree on things like health care.

THE RESISTANCE
12-27-2011, 11:37 AM
The only three candidates in the race to vote for if your actually are conservative are Bachman, Santorum, or that " Paul ".

The rest are part of the Globalist Socialist Alliance that has rulled this nation since the very first part of the 20th century.

You would be voting for a simple slowdown in some areas of the Globalist Socialist steam roller to vote for Gingrich, Perry, Romney , and the Democrat Huntsman.

If you are conservative then quit being a Globalist /Socialist helper.

It is the weakness of principles of the Republican Party main body and elected officials that are far more dangerous than the Democratic Partys LibSocs.

It is time to take the offense and quit playing defence. Playing defence to not lose as fast still means that you, this nation, your children and grandchildren lose and lose badly.

Stop retreating ,

**************ATTACK **************

Novaheart
12-27-2011, 11:41 AM
To be a "darn horse" don't you have to actually have a chance of winning? Santorum doesn't.

mike128
12-28-2011, 12:08 AM
Folks, the whole point is that as long as the Republican establishment types (like Karl Rove) know that conservatives like us will always vote for liberals like Flip Romney in the general election because we have "nowhere else to go", they will continue to force "moderates" down our throats, election after election. When are we going to have the guts to stand up to the Republican establishment? Until we do, there will never be a real conservative Republican presidential nominee who truly represents our views.

Keep in mind that most of the Republican victories in 2010 were conservative Tea Party victories, while most of the Republican losses in 2010 were establishment "moderates". So this notion that "conservatives can't win" is pure nonsense. Karl Rove should just STFU.

Forget the polls, and just vote your conscience in your state's Republican primary. That's what I intend to do.

Rockntractor
12-28-2011, 12:11 AM
Folks, the whole point is that as long as the Republican establishment types (like Karl Rove) know that conservatives like us will always vote for liberals like Flip Romney in the general election because we have "nowhere else to go", they will continue to force "moderates" down our throats, election after election. When are we going to have the guts to stand up to the Republican establishment? Until we do, there will never be a real conservative Republican presidential nominee who truly represents our views.

Keep in mind that most of the Republican victories in 2010 were conservative Tea Party victories, while most of the Republican losses in 2010 were establishment "moderates". So this notion that "conservatives can't win" is pure nonsense. Karl Rove should just STFU.

All is lost, return to the mother ship immediately!:eek:

Arroyo_Doble
12-28-2011, 12:11 AM
To be a "darn horse" don't you have to actually have a chance of winning? Santorum doesn't.

Name a candidate in the Republican field that has a chance, Nova. I am curious to know what you think and to determine your grasp of reality.

Rockntractor
12-28-2011, 12:13 AM
Name a candidate in the Republican field that has a chance, Nova. I am curious to know what you think and to determine your grasp of reality.

Dolby doing a reality check?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::r otfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::ro tfl:

Arroyo_Doble
12-28-2011, 12:14 AM
Dolby doing a reality check?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::r otfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::ro tfl:

Objective reality is a harsh mistress, Miss Piggy. Best to stick to the loving embrace of your fantasy.