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Carol
12-26-2011, 07:18 PM
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/100273079)


deminks

93-Year-Old Tennessee Woman Who Cleaned State Capitol For 30 Years Denied Voter ID

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/26/395287/93-year-old-tennessee-woman-who-cleaned-state-capitol-for-30-years-denied-voter-id/

A 93-year-old Tennessee woman who cleaned the state Capitol for 30 years, including the governor’s office, says she won’t be able to vote for the first time in decades after being told this week that her old state ID failed to meet new voter ID regulations.

Thelma Mitchell was even accused of being an undocumented immigrant because she couldn’t produce a birth certificate:

Mitchell, who was delivered by a midwife in Alabama in 1918, has never had a birth certificate. But when she told that to a drivers’ license clerk, he suggested she might be an illegal immigrant.

Thelma Mitchell told WSMV-TV that she went to a state drivers’ license center last week after being told that her old state ID from her cleaning job would not meet new regulations for voter identification.

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GOPer Mission Accomplished



Response to deminks (Original post)Mon Dec 26, 2011, 04:01 PM
coalition_unwilling

1. What's more disgusting than the crime being perpetrated upon

Ms. Mitchell is that the vast majority of Repukes will have no problem with this and many will actually approve of the treatment of Mitchell.

mysuzuki2
Response to deminks (Original post) Mon Dec 26, 2011, 04:14 PM

2. I'll be willing to bet that this lady is Black.

Mission accomplished. So we're back to the racist Dems and "it's all about race".



proud2BlibKansan
Response to deminks (Original post)Mon Dec 26, 2011, 04:20 PM

3. An update:
But a spokesman for the House Republican Caucus said Mitchell was given bad information. Brent Leatherwood said even an expired state ID will allow her to vote.

Asked about why Mitchell might have been confused or received incorrect information about the new voter ID law, Leatherwood said only that the provision that allows for the use of state employee IDs is “pretty straightforward.”

He said staff would be contacting Mitchell to get to the bottom of the miscommunication.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20111224/NEWS02/312240020/Ex-Capitol-Hill-maid-says-she-can-t-get-voter-ID

And then there is this, which liberals will never acknowledge. Those who do not have birth certificates because they were born many years ago when many did not have their births registered DO HAVE a way to get a delayed birth certificate.


http://www.knoxcounty.org/recordsmgmt/mhdrecords.php

SPECIAL NOTE: Many older individuals who were born at home or in rural areas never had birth certificates submitted to Vital Records. In these cases, one can obtain a "delayed" registration of birth. The Tennessee Department of Health has promulgated rules which govern the issuance of these certificates. Contact Vital Records at the number given above for more information on this process.

This is not about people not having birth certificates or IDs. This is about making sure that illegal aliens, dead people, and convicts can vote and so those liberals that want to vote more than once can.

JB
12-26-2011, 07:28 PM
zazen 9. and that's exactly the point!!! all it takes is one piece of "bad info"

But we know, how many times have we been told w/r/t some regulation six different versions of the steps we need to take to meet the damned thing? Every additional step challenges our motivation, and our time...
You've just described government in general, numnutz.

PS - Carol - linky no worky. Has too many http://

Big Guy
12-26-2011, 07:47 PM
I call BS on this story. As a State Employee she is required to have a valid State identification. She is also given a photo ID to show she works at the capitol, she is also given a non-photo ID signed by the Governor (Rubber Stamp Signature). I have over 16 years experience as a Tennessee State Employee.

She probably (Meaning just a guess) ended up in the line with a newly hired employee that saw an oportunity to make a big deal out of the new law. WSMV is run by left wing management, and most of their reporters are big left wingers also.

NJCardFan
12-26-2011, 11:38 PM
Question: How come I need 6 points to renew...yes, that's RENEW not obtain my drivers licence but that criteria is not OK for voter ID?

Adam Wood
12-27-2011, 11:04 AM
I call BS on this story. As a State Employee she is required to have a valid State identification. She is also given a photo ID to show she works at the capitol, she is also given a non-photo ID signed by the Governor (Rubber Stamp Signature). I have over 16 years experience as a Tennessee State Employee.

She probably (Meaning just a guess) ended up in the line with a newly hired employee that saw an oportunity to make a big deal out of the new law. WSMV is run by left wing management, and most of their reporters are big left wingers also.Interestingly, the only story about this on Channel 4's website is the Associated Press story (http://www.wsmv.com/story/16385958/former-capitol-hill-maid-says-cant-get-voter-id). No original reporting by WSMV anywhere on this.

Novaheart
12-27-2011, 11:34 AM
My mom is 84 years old. She told me she doesn't know "off hand" where her birth certificate is. I asked how she could lose a stone tablet.

The point is that I am sick of this anecdotal bullshit. I don't care if this woman cleaned the state house or a whore house, if she's a functioning adult in American society she needs to be able to provide a government issued ID to function. How does she write checks and slow down the grocery line?

I live in a town where the median age is 76 years old. You read that right, half of the people in Pasadena Florida are over 76 years old. And they drive all drive until it simply isn't possible anymore for them to get themselves to the car. Hell, the ones who have a child or grandchild who has lost his license (I have actually seen this at the doctor's office) get wheeled to the drivers seat and placed in the car by the interdicted inebriate.

Any system of voter security is going to inconvenience or eliminate a handful of people. Maybe even a handful of black people. Guess what? That's life. It simply cannot be said that these voter ID laws will disenfranchise large numbers of people, and there are remedies for those it will. As long as those bases are covered, then people need to grow the F up.

Starbuck
12-27-2011, 12:32 PM
.......... placed in the car by the interdicted inebriate............

"INTERDICTED INEBRIATE"?... lol:D

Tell it like it is, Nova!:D

NJCardFan
12-27-2011, 01:04 PM
This is the 21st Century. The possibility of an adult not having some kind of identification is minimal at best. As has been said ad nauseum, you need an ID to take a piss these days so there shouldn't be a problem. And believe me when I tell you that if those who have a problem getting an ID were potential GOP voters, you can bet every little hair on your ass the left would be wailing and gnashing teeth about them needing an ID.

Novaheart
12-27-2011, 03:38 PM
This is the 21st Century. The possibility of an adult not having some kind of identification is minimal at best. As has been said ad nauseum, you need an ID to take a piss these days so there shouldn't be a problem. And believe me when I tell you that if those who have a problem getting an ID were potential GOP voters, you can bet every little hair on your ass the left would be wailing and gnashing teeth about them needing an ID.

I don't really think there is a problem with voter fraud. As I understand it, proven cases of fraud in casting votes is almost nonexistant, voting fraud generally takes places in transportation of the boxes, counting, computers, etc... and even that is so rare we can't name a case off the top of our head.

But anything that pisses off people is OK with me.

Adam Wood
12-27-2011, 04:11 PM
I don't really think there is a problem with voter fraud. As I understand it, proven cases of fraud in casting votes is almost nonexistant, voting fraud generally takes places in transportation of the boxes, counting, computers, etc... and even that is so rare we can't name a case off the top of our head.

But anything that pisses off people is OK with me.Think (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/12/indiana-democratic-party-head-resigns-as-fraud-probe-heats-up/) again (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/21/officials-plead-guilty-in-new-york-voter-fraud-case/). Democrats have been engaging in this stuff for ages. The "dead people voting in Chicago" bit is not just some sort of joke; it's a reference to rampant vote fraud perpetrated by the Kennedy campaign, practically out in the open because so many people knew it was going on and couldn't/wouldn't do anything about it.

And no, I'm not claiming that it's exclusive to Democrats. I'm sure there are more than a couple of Republicans over the last several decades who have engaged in some of the same shitty behavior. The thing is, with ID, both Democrats and Republicans get their vote fraud shut down.

NJCardFan
12-27-2011, 06:09 PM
Guess this is all propaganda, eh Nova? :rolleyes:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html
And the outcome in which ACORN pleaded guilty:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/judge-gives-maximum-and-fines-acorn-5000-for-illegal-voter-registration-scheme/

This is just one example, of course but to say it's non-existent is laughable.

Carol
12-27-2011, 07:42 PM
She probably (Meaning just a guess) ended up in the line with a newly hired employee that saw an oportunity to make a big deal out of the new law. WSMV is run by left wing management, and most of their reporters are big left wingers also.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if the drivers license clerk who told her that her old state ID failed to meet new voter ID regulations was a liberal with the whole point being to create a narrative that could be sold as "people are going to be disenfranchised......those horrid Republicans, blah, blah, blah...

Novaheart
12-28-2011, 01:51 PM
Guess this is all propaganda, eh Nova? :rolleyes:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html
And the outcome in which ACORN pleaded guilty:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/judge-gives-maximum-and-fines-acorn-5000-for-illegal-voter-registration-scheme/

This is just one example, of course but to say it's non-existent is laughable.

I didn't say it was nonexistent, I said PROVEN CASES were ALMOST nonexistent.

I don't buy into the whole liberal "If we know about X then we can speculate that the actual figure is 100X" thing. The next thing you know, someone is claiming that 100X is known and speculating that 1000X is the actuality. Surely you don't either.

How exactly would showing a drivers license prevent dead people from voting anymore than it did dead people from stating their name and address? This kind of fraud is not done by thousands of people waiting in hundreds of lines, it's done inside the vote collection system, by handfuls of operatives before or after the polls close.

I don't oppose the voter ID so take what you can get. Just don't expect me to buy into your bullshit just because I don't care if you want to require ID.

Virginia requires that you state your name and your address, as it has for hundreds of years. Only one vote can be cast for that name with that address. To maintain that there is widespread fraud in that system is just silly. Whether using ID or identifying yourself by name and address, it's still one vote.