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txradioguy
12-30-2011, 12:58 PM
"Santa" who murdered family on Christmas morning was Muslim who didn't like his daughter dating a non-Muslim


Aziz Yazdanpanah, a Muslim, didn't like his daughter's non-Muslim boyfriend and was exhibiting stalker behavior. “She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion.”

Again and again we have seen honor killings in which fathers kill daughters who are dating non-Muslims or have supposedly besmirched the family honor by some sexual indiscretion. Lt. Todd Dearing says that motive isn't important -- which is generally only the case when Islam is involved.

"Neighbors horrified at news of family’s slayings in Grapevine," by Gloria Salinas and Scott Goldstein for the Dallas Morning News, December 26:


GRAPEVINE — Aziz Yazdanpanah seemed to be losing control of his life in recent months — his wife left him, his house was in foreclosure, and his 19-year-old daughter was dating a young man he didn’t like.

Even so, the 58-year-old former real estate agent from Colleyville seemed to be holding it together. Neighbors say he would smile and wave as he drove through his middle-class neighborhood. Recently, he was seen raking leaves in his yard.

“He was very friendly, a very good neighbor,” said Carrie Stewart, who lives across the street. “He was out here often doing yard work and he even watched our house for us when we went to Colorado.”

A decent fellow indeed.


Yazdanpanah, a volunteer high school debate coach described as a doting father, is the focus of suspicion a day after a Christmas morning massacre in which a man dressed as Santa Claus killed six relatives and then committed suicide.

Grapevine police arrived at the Lincoln Vineyard Apartment Homes a few minutes before noon and discovered bodies sprawled among opened presents and wrapping paper. The victims were ages 15 to 58....

Citing public records and interviews with friends and neighbors, media reports Monday identified Yazdanpanah and others who had died: his estranged 55-year-old wife, Fatemeh Rahmati, their 19-year-old daughter, Nona Narges Yazdanpanah, and 15-year-old son, Ali Yazdanpanah.

Friends of the family said Fatemeh Rahmati’s 58-year-old sister, Zohreh Rahmaty, and her husband, Hossein Zarei, 59, and daughter Sahra Zarei, a 22-year-old pre-med student at the University of Texas at Arlington, also were killed.

Grapevine police Lt. Todd Dearing said investigators were working to piece together a timeline of the murders, but they may never know exactly what set off the gunman.


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But a more ominous portrait emerged of Yazdanpanah in interviews with some of his daughter’s other classmates.

“She would come to school crying and telling us her dad was crazy,” said Lacie Reed, 18. “He wouldn’t let her wear certain things. He was always taking her phone away, checking her call history and checking her text messages.”

Friends said Nona’s father had installed cameras all around the home so he could watch the family’s comings and goings. Others said he nailed her bedroom window shut so she could not sneak out at night and see her boyfriend.

“She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion,” Reed said.


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/islamic-honor-killing-in-texas-man-who-murdered-family-on-christmas-morning-was-muslim-who-disliked.html

Novaheart
12-30-2011, 01:38 PM
"Santa" who murdered family on Christmas morning was Muslim who didn't like his daughter dating a non-Muslim


Aziz Yazdanpanah, a Muslim, didn't like his daughter's non-Muslim boyfriend and was exhibiting stalker behavior. “She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion.”

Again and again we have seen honor killings in which fathers kill daughters who are dating non-Muslims or have supposedly besmirched the family honor by some sexual indiscretion. Lt. Todd Dearing says that motive isn't important -- which is generally only the case when Islam is involved.

"Neighbors horrified at news of family’s slayings in Grapevine," by Gloria Salinas and Scott Goldstein for the Dallas Morning News, December 26:


GRAPEVINE — Aziz Yazdanpanah seemed to be losing control of his life in recent months — his wife left him, his house was in foreclosure, and his 19-year-old daughter was dating a young man he didn’t like.

Even so, the 58-year-old former real estate agent from Colleyville seemed to be holding it together. Neighbors say he would smile and wave as he drove through his middle-class neighborhood. Recently, he was seen raking leaves in his yard.

“He was very friendly, a very good neighbor,” said Carrie Stewart, who lives across the street. “He was out here often doing yard work and he even watched our house for us when we went to Colorado.”

A decent fellow indeed.


Yazdanpanah, a volunteer high school debate coach described as a doting father, is the focus of suspicion a day after a Christmas morning massacre in which a man dressed as Santa Claus killed six relatives and then committed suicide.

Grapevine police arrived at the Lincoln Vineyard Apartment Homes a few minutes before noon and discovered bodies sprawled among opened presents and wrapping paper. The victims were ages 15 to 58....

Citing public records and interviews with friends and neighbors, media reports Monday identified Yazdanpanah and others who had died: his estranged 55-year-old wife, Fatemeh Rahmati, their 19-year-old daughter, Nona Narges Yazdanpanah, and 15-year-old son, Ali Yazdanpanah.

Friends of the family said Fatemeh Rahmati’s 58-year-old sister, Zohreh Rahmaty, and her husband, Hossein Zarei, 59, and daughter Sahra Zarei, a 22-year-old pre-med student at the University of Texas at Arlington, also were killed.

Grapevine police Lt. Todd Dearing said investigators were working to piece together a timeline of the murders, but they may never know exactly what set off the gunman.


<snip>


But a more ominous portrait emerged of Yazdanpanah in interviews with some of his daughter’s other classmates.

“She would come to school crying and telling us her dad was crazy,” said Lacie Reed, 18. “He wouldn’t let her wear certain things. He was always taking her phone away, checking her call history and checking her text messages.”

Friends said Nona’s father had installed cameras all around the home so he could watch the family’s comings and goings. Others said he nailed her bedroom window shut so she could not sneak out at night and see her boyfriend.

“She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion,” Reed said.


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/islamic-honor-killing-in-texas-man-who-murdered-family-on-christmas-morning-was-muslim-who-disliked.html

I like to bash Islam as much as the next guy, but in this case Islam seems secondary to insanity, unless one maintains that his meltdown was born of his cultural inculcation to the belief that he was supposed to be in control, and that Allah would bless him for being a good husband and father etc... all of which had turned to shit.

I am more inclined to believe that in this case, he was nuts and he was a muzzie, not because he was a muzzie.

I've known a number of west asian ethnic type people with really obnoxious and controlling fathers. None of those dads killed their family. I've known Armenians who sounded a lot like this family, the older brother being the enforcer and controller of the daughter my age, and while she was unhappy, to the best of my knowledge she was never physically harmed.

Sometimes Islam is a reason, sometimes it's an excuse, and sometimes it's simply present.

RedGrouse
12-30-2011, 01:44 PM
Sounds like Aziz Yazdanpanah is very insecure and paranoid. He also got issues of jealousy. He was unemployed for a decade.

Father dressed as Santa gunned down entire family on Christmas Day because 'he was upset his estranged wife was doing well on her own'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080153/Grapevine-shooting-Family-says-Aziz-Yazdanpanah-shot-family-jealous-estranged-wife.html

Starbuck
12-30-2011, 03:36 PM
......“She would come to school crying and telling us her dad was crazy,” said Lacie Reed, 18. “He wouldn’t let her wear certain things. He was always taking her phone away, checking her call history and checking her text messages.”..........said he nailed her bedroom window shut so she could not sneak out at night and see her boyfriend....

"wear certain things"?....."So she could not sneak out at night....."

Sounds like there was more than one participant in this craziness.

namvet
12-30-2011, 08:11 PM
but its fine for dad to rape his daughter at 12 or 13. right

Rockntractor
12-30-2011, 10:42 PM
Nothing was mentioned about the Muslim connection when I heard this on the news.

MrsSmith
12-31-2011, 12:52 AM
Nothing was mentioned about the Muslim connection when I heard this on the news.
Really? That's weird because the news is always careful to mention things like attending a Christian church, or listening to hymns, or saying "God told me to..." Why on earth would they not mention religion in this case?? :confused:



:rolleyes:

Kay
12-31-2011, 11:41 AM
I like to bash Islam as much as the next guy, but in this case Islam seems secondary to insanity, unless one maintains that his meltdown was born of his cultural inculcation to the belief that he was supposed to be in control, and that Allah would bless him for being a good husband and father etc... all of which had turned to

Yeah, unless ......
What you're missing here Nova is simple: ISLAM = INSANITY
The two are one in the same.

Kay
12-31-2011, 11:46 AM
Why would a Muslim family be opening Christmas presents?

Starbuck
12-31-2011, 01:55 PM
:)
Why would a Muslim family be opening Christmas presents?
:) I'd guess for the same reason lots of non-Christians do.

namvet
12-31-2011, 02:51 PM
Why would a Muslim family be opening Christmas presents?

great way to conceal PE ????

Lanie
12-31-2011, 08:34 PM
Okay, when I first read the title, the first thing I thought was "Well, maybe Texas can show people what they do with honor killers."

Then, I read the article.

Look at the first paragraph.


GRAPEVINE — Aziz Yazdanpanah seemed to be losing control of his life in recent months — his wife left him, his house was in foreclosure, and his 19-year-old daughter was dating a young man he didn’t like.

Not that this is an excuse at all, but is it possible that he was a depressed guy who killed his family and then himself? Non-Muslim Americans do this.

Rockntractor
12-31-2011, 08:38 PM
Okay, when I first read the title, the first thing I thought was "Well, maybe Texas can show people what they do with honor killers."

Then, I read the article.

Look at the first paragraph.



Not that this is an excuse at all, but is it possible that he was a depressed guy who killed his family and then himself? Non-Muslim Americans do this.

Ask the dead family the first time you get a chance.

Lanie
12-31-2011, 08:42 PM
Yeah, unless ......
What you're missing here Nova is simple: ISLAM = INSANITY
The two are one in the same.

There was a heart breaking similar case in a county near where I live.

http://www.myfox8.com/news/wghp-story-seven-victims-in-fatal-shooting-pleasant-garden-nc-111120,0,320549.story

Children dead. A boyfriend injured. No Islam.

It's really heart breaking. I think that by making this all about Islam, you're ignoring the very real problem of people who obviously have some mental issues and not being stopped in time, not being helped, etc. Maybe if this man could have gotten some help, he wouldn't have killed his family.

Now, I remember once hearing about an honor killing in which the parents planned the murder of their daughter, a stabbing murder. No mass murder, just one victim. That sounds more like honor killing to me.

noonwitch
01-03-2012, 10:28 AM
I like to bash Islam as much as the next guy, but in this case Islam seems secondary to insanity, unless one maintains that his meltdown was born of his cultural inculcation to the belief that he was supposed to be in control, and that Allah would bless him for being a good husband and father etc... all of which had turned to shit.

I am more inclined to believe that in this case, he was nuts and he was a muzzie, not because he was a muzzie.

I've known a number of west asian ethnic type people with really obnoxious and controlling fathers. None of those dads killed their family. I've known Armenians who sounded a lot like this family, the older brother being the enforcer and controller of the daughter my age, and while she was unhappy, to the best of my knowledge she was never physically harmed.

Sometimes Islam is a reason, sometimes it's an excuse, and sometimes it's simply present.


I've had Greek/american friends with overprotective fathers, and dutch-american friends who were only allowed to date other members of one of the dutch reformed denominations. I doubt any of those fathers were willing to kill to enforce their rules.

In this case, you are probably right to point out that insanity is the primary factor motivating his actions, but the theme of his insanity is his view of Islam and what he believes is his role as a proper, muslim father.

I'm curious as to why his wife and he were divorced. I always wonder in these cases if the thing that pushes the father over the edge is actually jealousy-that he has an inappropriate emotional attachment to the daughter that may or may not have crossed the line into actual incest.