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txradioguy
01-07-2012, 09:20 AM
Just as the conservative movement finally has the first real chance since Ronald Reagan to see one of its own — a “full-spectrum conservative,” as Rick Santorum now calls himself, picking up the phrase from Rep. Steve King (R., Iowa) — win the Republican presidential nomination, the purists emerge to say he’s somehow not conservative enough. The attempt to attach a “big-government conservative” label to Rick Santorum for some rare wanderings from the conservative reservation makes about as much sense as arguing that record-breaking Drew Brees of the Saints is a poor quarterback because he threw 14 interceptions this season.

The reality is that Rick Santorum’s instincts and intellectual choices consistently tend toward freedom.

On taxes, for instance, Santorum has always been superb. The Club for Growth’s white paper on Santorum, calling his tax stances “very strong,” confirms that “Santorum has consistently supported broad-based tax cuts and opposed tax increases either by sponsoring key legislation or by casting votes on relevant bills.”


His record on a host of other conservative issues is as solid as that of any politician in the past two decades. He has been firmly and repeatedly against all sorts of regulatory abuse, against McCain-Feingold and other restrictions on political speech, for school choice, for tort reform, for a strong military, and for a balanced-budget amendment.

Obviously he has been as stalwart a defender of social conservatism, for 20 full years, as any other public figure. And as virtually every conservative involved in the judicial wars during Santorum’s time in the Senate has confirmed, in person or in print, Santorum and his staff were the go-to people in the Senate when you needed to find tireless, committed advocates for conservative jurists. Santorum is, wrote Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, “the candidate in whom I have by far the greatest confidence” in terms of how likely he would be “to appoint excellent Supreme Court justices and lower-court judges and to work tenaciously to get them confirmed.”

Meanwhile, as Santorum frequently (and entirely accurately) reminds anybody who will listen, his work on the single most important conservative policy reform of the past half century, the 1996 welfare-to-work effort that cut spending and poverty rates simultaneously, was seminal, indefatigable, and remarkably effective. Iowa’s Sen. Chuck Grassley explained to the Des Moines Register a week ago that he was unconvinced about welfare reform until Santorum paid him an office call and “took a lot of time to convince me of his point of view. . . . The sincerity and effort that he has to get his point across in the presidential campaign is almost a total reflection of how he operated as a United States senator.” Grassley yielded and voted for reform.

More broadly, until Rep. Paul Ryan’s recent prominence, nobody in Congress has been as passionate and fearless an advocate for entitlement reform as Santorum. Medicaid block grants. Investment accounts for Social Security. Medicare payments controlled by the beneficiaries rather than third-party payers. Choice rather than government mandates. Indeed, Santorum was the first candidate this year to fully embrace Ryan’s proposed reforms — with this exception, as he reminded me in a phone interview on Thursday: “I’ve criticized Ryan on one thing: waiting ten years [for many of the reforms to kick in]. We can’t afford to wait. We’ve got to start now.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/287441/rick-santorum-conservative-stalwart-quin-hillyer?page=2

mike128
01-07-2012, 10:32 AM
Rick Santorum does have his flaws, like all other GOP candidates. But Rick Santorum's overall record is unquestionably conservative. He is the ONLY candidate in the race, as of now, who can provide that stark, definitive contrast needed to beat "The Messiah" Obama. I will enthusiastically support Rick Santorum if he gets the nomination.

Flip-Flop Romney, on the other hand, is nothing better than Obama-lite. The Democrats will be laughing their asses off when Romney attempts to criticize Obamacare, since Romney, himself, created the blueprint for it in Massachusetts. And if you thought that the Bush ads against Kerry for flip-flopping were bad in 2004, just wait and see what the Obama political war machine will do to Flip Romney if he gets the nomination.

When will Republicans finally realize that a Massachusetts liberal, like Flip-Flop Romney, just can't win? We really need to coalesce around a real conservative, like Rick Santorum, to provide that contrast needed to beat Obama.

The Republican establishment strategists, like Karl Rove, are wrong. Conservatives, like myself, well never show up in November to vote for a Massachusetts liberal flip-flopper. History also shows that Republican "moderates" never win presidential elections. So lets nominate a real conservative before its too late!

AmPat
01-07-2012, 12:00 PM
Rick Santorum does have his flaws, like all other GOP candidates. But Rick Santorum's overall record is unquestionably conservative. He is the ONLY candidate in the race, as of now, who can provide that stark, definitive contrast needed to beat "The Messiah" Obama. I will enthusiastically support Rick Santorum if he gets the nomination.

Flip-Flop Romney, on the other hand, is nothing better than Obama-lite. The Democrats will be laughing their asses off when Romney attempts to criticize Obamacare, since Romney, himself, created the blueprint for it in Massachusetts. And if you thought that the Bush ads against Kerry for flip-flopping were bad in 2004, just wait and see what the Obama political war machine will do to Flip Romney if he gets the nomination.

When will Republicans finally realize that a Massachusetts liberal, like Flip-Flop Romney, just can't win? We really need to coalesce around a real conservative, like Rick Santorum, to provide that contrast needed to beat Obama.

The Republican establishment strategists, like Karl Rove, are wrong. Conservatives, like myself, well never show up in November to vote for a Massachusetts liberal flip-flopper. History also shows that Republican "moderates" never win presidential elections. So lets nominate a real conservative before its too late!

Your letter should be sent to the RNC. We all realize this, the RNC is the depot for your dislike of Flip and the other RINOS.

Adam Wood
01-07-2012, 12:17 PM
With each passing day, I miss Herman Cain more and more. :(

Novaheart
01-07-2012, 12:26 PM
With each passing day, I miss Herman Cain more and more. :(

If Santorum gets nominated you can miss Cain through four more years of Obama.

mike128
01-07-2012, 12:51 PM
Your letter should be sent to the RNC. We all realize this, the RNC is the depot for your dislike of Flip and the other RINOS.
I have sent letters to the RNC in the past about this, when I was in my twenties, only to be ignored. I am now older, and realize that establishment Republicans don't care about what conservatives like you and I think. They only care about MONEY, and how much more of it they can get into their pockets. There is nothing wrong with making a profit. I'm all for that. But when the traditional values get sacrificed in order to make that profit, then we all lose. Rick Santorum seems to be the only candidate to realize that cultural values are directly tied into economic success. Which is why I believe that Rick Santorum should be the candidate that conservatives should unite around in both the NH and SC primaries.

If conservatives don't unite around one candidate within the next day or so, it may be too late.

Rockntractor
01-07-2012, 12:57 PM
With each passing day, I miss Herman Cain more and more. :(

That makes two of us.

mike128
01-07-2012, 12:58 PM
With each passing day, I miss Herman Cain more and more. :(
I also miss Herman Cain. I really think that last floozie was lying about their "consentual affair". Let's face it, Herman Cain could do much better than "that" if he wanted to. Just sayin'.

AmPat
01-07-2012, 01:23 PM
I have sent letters to the RNC in the past about this, when I was in my twenties, only to be ignored. I am now older, and realize that establishment Republicans don't care about what conservatives like you and I think. They only care about MONEY, and how much more of it they can get into their pockets. There is nothing wrong with making a profit. I'm all for that. But when the traditional values get sacrificed in order to make that profit, then we all lose. Rick Santorum seems to be the only candidate to realize that cultural values are directly tied into economic success. Which is why I believe that Rick Santorum should be the candidate that conservatives should unite around in both the NH and SC primaries.

If conservatives don't unite around one candidate within the next day or so, it may be too late.

Since Michelle's departure, he is the only one still standing that I can get enthused over. The others emit a clear stench that will force me to hold my nose again at the ballot box. In order:
Santorum- Hopefully with Bachman as V.P.
Gingrich
Romney
Paul.

Paul would be top or close if he had a better grasp of reality regarding foreign affairs.

Molon Labe
01-07-2012, 01:26 PM
Rick Santorum does have his flaws, like all other GOP candidates. But Rick Santorum's overall record is unquestionably conservative.

You are right. LOTS of them.

Here's his conservative credentials with links (http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/).




NEA
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.

Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.


Defense and Foreign Policy

Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.


Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.

Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the President’s authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program

Nominations
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge

Labor
Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Guns

Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of “assault weapons” by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.

Reform

Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter “backup plan” to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.


Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.

Taxes
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.

Welfare
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.

Waste
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museum’s Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a state’s highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.

Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.

Health Care
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.

Education
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.

Energy


Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.

Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crim

DumbAss Tanker
01-07-2012, 02:24 PM
If Santorum gets nominated you can miss Cain through four more years of Obama.

Yeah, because letting the Beltway GOP select the 'Most electable' candidate worked so amazingly well in 1992 (An incumbent, true), 1996, and 2008.

:rolleyes:

The only reason most of the Conservative base will vote at all if Romney is the candidate is for House and Senate elections in their states. Except for pure fiscal conservatives who don't care about anything else, base turnout for Romney will suck. The only way actual independents (Non-GOP identified voters and Blue-dogs) would vote for him is if the economy goes completely off a cliff between now and November.

With Romney, Obama's campaign slogan might as well be "If you want to vote for a Democrat, at least vote for a REAL one!"

Novaheart
01-07-2012, 02:35 PM
Yeah, because letting the Beltway GOP select the 'Most electable' candidate worked so amazingly well in 1992 (An incumbent, true), 1996, and 2008.

:rolleyes:

The only reason most of the Conservative base will vote at all if Romney is the candidate is for House and Senate elections in their states. Except for pure fiscal conservatives who don't care about anything else, base turnout for Romney will suck. The only way actual independents (Non-GOP identified voters and Blue-dogs) would vote for him is if the economy goes completely off a cliff between now and November.

With Romney, Obama's campaign slogan might as well be "If you want to vote for a Democrat, at least vote for a REAL one!"

The problem is that the current GOP candidate ech suck in a different issue. The Democratic incumbent is a given and you opinion of him is not relevant to the discussion.

Gingrich has said that he believes in amnesty while denying that be believes in amnesty.

Santorum is only slightly less batshit crazy than Bachmann. He's out of touch on social issues.

Romney is a deal maker, but not strong on any one issue.

Paul is interesting, has some good theories, and then go flying off on batwings on certain comments.

America wants an isolationist, America first president.
America wants universal healthcare regardless of what you call it.
America wants the illegal aliens gone.
America wants criminals locked up and America wants rehabilitation.
America wants to smoke pot.
America doesn't care about gay people or gay marriage.
America isn't interested in your religious views and is content to keep their own to themselves.
America is OK with abortion as it now is.
America wants to stop worrying about their money for a little while.
America wants lower gasoline prices.
American wants jobs for their children and programs for children with problems.
America wants safe neighborhood schools, and to be able to choose the school their child will attend by where they buy or rent a house.

Rockntractor
01-07-2012, 02:40 PM
Gingrich will attempt to destroy Romney and in the process will destroy himself, leaving Santorum as the nominee.

Novaheart
01-07-2012, 02:43 PM
Gingrich will attempt to destroy Romney and in the process will destroy himself, leaving Santorum as the nominee.

Obama dreams upon the lily pad.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OrPiYD1RcAs/ShJsWm6x_CI/AAAAAAAAEPg/l8tP8Lnj8W8/s320/vishnu-lotus.jpg

Rockntractor
01-07-2012, 02:51 PM
Obama dreams upon the lily pad.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OrPiYD1RcAs/ShJsWm6x_CI/AAAAAAAAEPg/l8tP8Lnj8W8/s320/vishnu-lotus.jpg

Prophet Pig has spoken!:pig:

mike128
01-07-2012, 04:36 PM
Look, folks, let's stop arguing about Flip Romney, and unite around one TRUE conservatve. My suggestion is that we all unite around Senator Rick Santorum. Let's face it, Michele Bachmann is out, Newt is damaged, Perry can't make up his mind as to whether or not he wants to be in the race at all, and Ron Paul is a weirdo.

Sorry to be so harsh about Ron Paul, but the fact that he would allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon scares the crap out of me.

And Jon Huntsman's candidacy is a joke (although the 'backflip' ad against Flip Romney released by the Huntsman campaign was, and still is the BEST that I've ever seen!)

So, let's just unite, once and for all, behind a SINGLE candidate. As of now, that candidate is Rick Santorum. Time is running out. Let's NOT allow a known Massachusetts liberal flip-flopper to become our nominee!

The future of America is at stake. Please don't disappoint.

Novaheart
01-07-2012, 04:43 PM
Prophet Pig has oinkethed!:pig:

fixedth

Novaheart
01-07-2012, 04:44 PM
Look, folks, let's stop arguing about Flip Romney, and unite around one TRUE conservatve. My suggestion is that we all unite around Senator Rick Santorum. Let's face it, Michele Bachmann is out, Newt is damaged, Perry can't make up his mind as to whether or not he wants to be in the race at all, and Ron Paul is a weirdo.

Sorry to be so harsh about Ron Paul, but the fact that he would allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon scares the crap out of me.

And Jon Huntsman's candidacy is a joke (although the 'backflip' ad against Flip Romney released by the Huntsman campaign was, and still is the BEST that I've ever seen!)

So, let's just unite, once and for all, behind a SINGLE candidate. As of now, that candidate is Rick Santorum. Time is running out. Let's NOT allow a known Massachusetts liberal flip-flopper to become our nominee!

The future of America is at stake. Please don't disappoint.

What is the difference between Bachmann and Santorum on the crazy meter?

Rockntractor
01-07-2012, 05:06 PM
What is the difference between Bachmann and Santorum on the crazy meter?

How would a defect know what crazy is?:confused:

Kay
01-07-2012, 05:59 PM
This is truly one of those primaries for me where I feel like
I don't even have a dog in this fight. I try real hard to make
up my mind and settle on just one candidate to throw myself
behind, but I have issues with each and every one of them.
I will probably vote in this order depending on who is still
in when we have our primary in April:

Perry (closest overall to my wish list)
Newt (Yoda, his baggage does not bother me he's older and wiser now for it)
Romney (I'm bigger on fiscal issues over social at this time, he'd be alright for economy)
Santorum (whines too much, doesn't carry himself like a natural born strong leader type)
Paul and Huntsman don't make my list, I'd vote any of the above over these two.

In the general election I'll vote against Obama regardless of who we end up with.

DumbAss Tanker
01-07-2012, 06:34 PM
The problem is that the current GOP candidate ech suck in a different issue. The Democratic incumbent is a given and you opinion of him is not relevant to the discussion.


:eek:

If your primary criteria for a Republican candidate is 'Electability,' that's probably the stupidest thing I remember you ever saying. Electability is ALL about vis-a-vis Obama, hence it could hardly be more relevant.


I mean, damn', that was just stupid.

AmPat
01-07-2012, 09:41 PM
The problem is that the current GOP candidate ech suck in a different issue. The Democratic incumbent is a given and you opinion of him is not relevant to the discussion.

.
The good news is that O Blah Blah sucks in every issue. :cool:

mike128
01-07-2012, 10:02 PM
This is truly one of those primaries for me where I feel like
I don't even have a dog in this fight. I try real hard to make
up my mind and settle on just one candidate to throw myself
behind, but I have issues with each and every one of them.
I will probably vote in this order depending on who is still
in when we have our primary in April:

Perry (closest overall to my wish list)
Newt (Yoda, his baggage does not bother me he's older and wiser now for it)
Romney (I'm bigger on fiscal issues over social at this time, he'd be alright for economy)
Santorum (whines too much, doesn't carry himself like a natural born strong leader type)
Paul and Huntsman don't make my list, I'd vote any of the above over these two.

In the general election I'll vote against Obama regardless of who we end up with.
I can accept Perry or Santorum as our nominee. I'll even hold my nose for Newt. But Ron Paul is very questionable, and Flip Romney & Huntsman are definitely out.

It's debate time, folks! Gotta go!