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Janice
01-22-2012, 11:58 AM
http://i.imgur.com/T4aYS.jpg

Many years ago, Nelson Rockefeller was quoted as saying, "A conservative is a person who discovers someone drowning 50 feet from shore and throws him a 25-foot rope, encouraging him to swim for it.

A liberal finds the same person drowning 50 feet from shore, throws him a 100-foot rope and doesn't anchor it to anything, just goes off to do another good deed."

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Probably not the best analogy, but it works none the less.

Novaheart
01-22-2012, 01:08 PM
A conservative is a person on some form of government healthcare payment system with a grand child on WIC who bitches about socialists.

Lanie
01-22-2012, 01:48 PM
A conservative is a person on some form of government healthcare payment system with a grand child on WIC who bitches about socialists.

While I was getting my car fixed one day, I sat with a girl who complained about how all of these people were on food stamps, welfare, etc.

Later on, she admitted she was on WIC and I think other assistance. :rolleyes:

BadCat
01-22-2012, 02:22 PM
A liberal is a traitor. A liberal is an enemy of the USA.

Zafod
01-22-2012, 02:24 PM
While I was getting my car fixed one day, I sat with a girl who complained about how all of these people were on food stamps, welfare, etc.

Later on, she admitted she was on WIC and I think other assistance. :rolleyes:

:bounce:

Novaheart
01-22-2012, 02:26 PM
A liberal is a traitor. A liberal is an enemy of the USA.

Would those be the liberal "for amnesty" traitors or the conservative "we have to have the illegal labor to pick the crops" traitors?

txradioguy
01-22-2012, 02:30 PM
How do you tell a Liberal? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell a Conservative? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

BadCat
01-22-2012, 02:31 PM
Would those be the liberal "for amnesty" traitors or the conservative "we have to have the illegal labor to pick the crops" traitors?

Liberal..democrat...progressive...socialist...comm unist, whatever it is your side is calling itself on any particular day.

Novaheart
01-22-2012, 02:33 PM
How do you tell a Liberal? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell a Conservative? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

I have never read Marx and Lenin. I watched Marx and listened to Lennon.

I also have never read Saul Alinski, Mao TSe Tung, Sun Yat Sen, or Howard Zinn.

Rockntractor
01-22-2012, 02:34 PM
Liberal..democrat...progressive...socialist...comm unist, whatever it is your side is calling itself on any particular day.

He was conservative day before yesterday, who knows what he is dressed up as today.

Novaheart
01-22-2012, 02:35 PM
Liberal..democrat...progressive...socialist...comm unist, whatever it is your side is calling itself on any particular day.

I'm not seeing any meaningful opposition to illegal immigration coming from the Right. Some of the rank and file oppose illegals, some local politicians oppose illegals, but all the RNC's at the top seem to tap dance around illegal immigration. And none of them have the guts to come out and denounce the infiltration of muslims into our country and other European nations.

Rockntractor
01-22-2012, 02:35 PM
I have never read Marx and Lenin. I watched Marx and listened to Lennon.

I also have never read Saul Alinski, Mao TSe Tung, Sun Yat Sen, or Howard Zinn.

But you can decorate and have stayed at a Holiday Inn.

NJCardFan
01-22-2012, 09:10 PM
I'm not seeing any meaningful opposition to illegal immigration coming from the Right. Some of the rank and file oppose illegals, some local politicians oppose illegals, but all the RNC's at the top seem to tap dance around illegal immigration. And none of them have the guts to come out and denounce the infiltration of muslims into our country and other European nations.

Saying you belong to the RNC does not make you a conservative and there are plenty of conservatives who want to close the border. Republican in no way=conservative and vice versa. In other words, nice try.

MrsSmith
01-22-2012, 10:32 PM
A conservative is a person on some form of government healthcare payment system with a grand child on WIC who bitches about socialists. A conservative that is on government healthcare has paid into that healthcare for decades, along with paying their own insurance and medical costs for decades.

Most conservatives are still paying for their insurance and medical costs...and often for the costs of their grandchildren. In point of fact, this conservative has paid for her granddaughter to go to the doctor every time she's gone in her 2 years of life. This conservative has also provided most of her diapers, wipes, clothes, formula, milk and other necessities. I've done this because her mother is going to college and has not been able to find a part-time job that will work around her schedule.

We also have provided assistance as needed to our other adult children when expenses became overwhelming. We do this because, as conservatives, we provide for our own when it's at all possible.

If liberals did this same thing, chances are excellent that Medicaid and food stamp numbers would hugely decrease.

Retread
01-22-2012, 10:50 PM
How do you tell a Liberal? You can't. They won't listen - just "feeling".

Tecate
01-23-2012, 12:17 AM
Both are used as a smokescreen to drag half the nation while kicking and screaming into accepting just about anything. The pendulum has to swing back and forth periodically so each half of the slave population can feel like they're part of a "winning team" for at least part of the time. It's fascinating to watch people get conned by this phony system over and over again.

The truth is you never get conservatism or liberalism from any adminstration. It's a fraud. Both political parties are bought and paid for by special interests and those are the boots they lick. They'd sell their mother out for a dollar.

Rockntractor
01-23-2012, 12:21 AM
Both are used as a smokescreen to drag half the nation while kicking and screaming into accepting just about anything. The pendulum has to swing back and forth periodically so each half of the slave population can feel like they're part of a "winning team" for at least part of the time. It's fascinating to watch people get conned by this phony system over and over again.

The truth is you never get conservatism or liberalism from any adminstration. It's a fraud. Both political parties are bought and paid for by special interests and those are the boots they lick. They'd sell their mother out for a dollar.

The masterminds are in a spaceship on the dark side of the moon waiting, watching!:eek:

Tecate
01-23-2012, 12:25 AM
The masterminds are in a spaceship on the dark side of the moon waiting, watching!:eek:
Ignore their words and observe their actions...

Rockntractor
01-23-2012, 12:28 AM
Ignore their words and observe their actions...

It is the Nights Templar you know, and now we all know too much!

Chuck58
01-23-2012, 02:48 AM
Not exactly conservative vs liberal but this pretty much explains liberals.


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Tecate
01-23-2012, 06:03 AM
It is the Nights Templar you know, and now we all know too much!
No just good old fashioned corruption, sort of like a 50 pound tick on a 100 pound dog's back.

txradioguy
01-23-2012, 08:25 AM
Both are used as a smokescreen to drag half the nation while kicking and screaming into accepting just about anything. The pendulum has to swing back and forth periodically so each half of the slave population can feel like they're part of a "winning team" for at least part of the time. It's fascinating to watch people get conned by this phony system over and over again.

The truth is you never get conservatism or liberalism from any adminstration. It's a fraud. Both political parties are bought and paid for by special interests and those are the boots they lick. They'd sell their mother out for a dollar.


:rolleyes:

AmPat
01-23-2012, 11:50 AM
Both are used as a smokescreen to drag half the nation while kicking and screaming into accepting just about anything. The pendulum has to swing back and forth periodically so each half of the slave population can feel like they're part of a "winning team" for at least part of the time. It's fascinating to watch people get conned by this phony system over and over again.

The truth is you never get conservatism or liberalism from any adminstration. It's a fraud. Both political parties are bought and paid for by special interests and those are the boots they lick. They'd sell their mother out for a dollar.I disagree.

If there were no real liberal administrations, please explain the degradation of our freedoms from the original intent of the Constitution of limited government in light of the massive, bloated, beast of government that we have today. Please explain the progressive non-sense of Wilson, Roosevelt/s, L B Johnson, Clintoon, Bush/s, and finally the ultimate Marxist-progressive O Blah Blah.

Yes Virginia, there really are Liberals.

Janice
01-26-2012, 01:35 AM
7 Non-Political Differences Between Liberals and Conservatives
Townhall
by John Hawkins

People who don't follow politics tend to believe that conservatives and liberals are just flip sides of the same coin. In other words, conservatives are pro-life, pro-gun, and fiscally conservative while liberals are pro-choice, anti-gun, and want to tax and spend, but otherwise, there are no real differences.

However, if you follow politics closely, you'll find that there's a gulf as wide as the ocean between the average politically active conservative and the average politically active liberal. We don't just have political differences; we view the world through very different eyes. >>>

1) Conservatives are more patriotic than liberals: Conservatives tend to focus on the positive things about America, while liberals focus on the negative. If the first thoughts that came to your mind when you thought of America were “slavery,” "imperialism," and "unfairly using too much of the world's resources," you probably wouldn't like America very much either. Conservatives, on the other hand, look at the fact that we saved the world in WWI, WWII, and the Cold War, take pride in the fact that we have contributed so much to the planet, and believe America has had a tremendous positive impact on history. The conservative view produces love of country. The other view produces a deep seated dislike of our nation.

2) It's socially acceptable for liberals to lie about conservatives: Whether you're talking about theNew York Times, The Washington Post, or the Daily Kos, it's considered to be perfectly acceptable to lie about conservatives. That's because, as Charles Krauthammer once said, To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

If you think your opponents are evil, you tend to be okay with using tactics that you would describe as "evil" under other circumstances to fight them. If you're up people you compare to Nazis, it’s easy to tell yourself that lying to beat them isn’t so bad. If you're in a dispute with people who you believe are just too stupid to understand what's going on, you feel compelled to try to explain yourself a little better.

3) Conservatives are results-oriented. Liberals are not: If you understand one thing about liberals, understand this: Liberalism is nothing more than "childlike emotionalism applied to adult issues." That's why they don't care very much about whether the programs they advocate work or not. Proposing programs isn't really about what will help the most people to liberals; it's about making them feel good about themselves. On the other hand, conservatives are results-oriented, which is why they tend to be so down on the government, which is inevitably slower, more expensive, and less effective than the private sector at pretty much everything.

MORE Examples ... (http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2011/01/25/7_non-political_differences_between_liberals_and_conserv atives/page/full/)

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Also conservatives add to society, whereas Democrats/ Liberals take on jobs that suck the life out of everyone else. Think Teachers, Union Workers, Government employees, and 3/4 of the entertainment industry ... and on and on ...

nightflight
01-26-2012, 03:35 AM
A conservative is a person on some form of government healthcare payment system with a grand child on WIC who bitches about socialists.

..........after having money confiscated weekly for the past 30 years by the government.

NJCardFan
01-26-2012, 03:39 AM
:rolleyes:

Let me guess. He's a Ronulan.

Rockntractor
01-26-2012, 03:45 AM
Let me guess. He's a Ronulan.

He is crazier than Paul!

NJCardFan
01-26-2012, 03:46 AM
3) Conservatives are results-oriented. Liberals are not: If you understand one thing about liberals, understand this: Liberalism is nothing more than "childlike emotionalism applied to adult issues."
This pretty sums up the issue. Just like the little pic earlier comparing liberals to toddlers. It's the truth. Their mindset is "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine but what's mine is not yours." They also don't look at the big picture. Like little children, they want it now and by now I mean 5 minutes ago, regardless of the consequences.