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Janice
02-08-2012, 09:44 PM
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Obamacare Abortions: Will Catholics Vote For Him A Second Time? (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/44378)

During the last presidential election, Catholics voted by a margin of 55-45% for the most pro-death President in history. Of course, he started out by covering up the crucifix at Georgetown before delivering a speech, so as not to offend Muslims or Atheists, proceeded to declare that “America is not a Christian nation,”, then bowed before a Saudi king. Therefore, should we be surprised when this secular humanist, pro-abortion President now attacks religious freedom by backing regulations which force Catholic hospitals—against their will and the tenets of their religion—to fund and or even perform abortions or risk sanctions and closure?

Before it is too late and we re-elect the most pro-abortion politician ever to hit Washington, perhaps we should revisit Obama “family values.”

Let’s start with babies. Of course we know that Obama would not want his daughter to be “punished with a baby” [sic] if she became pregnant. But it gets worse. In February of 2004, Michelle Obama authored a fund raising letter soliciting funds for Obama’s senatorial campaign.

Preaching to the radical, left-wing, pro-abortion, feminist choir, she railed against the federal partial birth abortion ban, and trumpeted the fact that her husband would never allow pro-life judges to interpret the law and would preserve the right of a woman and her doctor not just to perform an abortion, but to kill viable babies who were inches from life, by stabbing them in the head with scissors and sucking their brains out—euphemistically referred to as “partial birth abortion.” (Perhaps if commentators, politicians, and the rest of us referred to the procedure as “stabbing a nearly-born baby in the head and sucking his or her brains out” rather than “partial birth abortion,” people would better understand the hideous nature of this procedure.) But, back to the fund raising letter. Michelle Obama, when raising money for her husband, referred to “partial birth abortion” (“stabbing a nearly born baby in the head and sucking his or her brains out”) as:

“...a legitimate medical procedure.” [sic]

This, of course, begs the questions: 1. In whose book is this a “legitimate medical procedure?” and 2. When did Michelle Obama go back to school and get her medical degree?

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It may depend a lot on what the church leaders say. There seems to be an unbelievable amount of denial about what 0bama is and what he believes. It may take 4 more years to convince people that he doesn't love this country, its constitution, or its traditions and culture. Quite the contrary ... nonetheless it seems that many Catholics voted for a man who was against medical care for a baby born alive following an abortion attempt and now they want the rest of us to react to their hospitals being forced to provide birth control pills.

How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.

- Adolf Hitler

Rockntractor
02-08-2012, 09:48 PM
The Democrat Catholics as well as the liberal Jews will vote for him without giving it a second thought.

Janice
02-08-2012, 10:26 PM
The Democrat Catholics as well as the liberal Jews will vote for him without giving it a second thought.

Yes. Im afraid you are probably right. Liberals are always liberals FIRST, before they are anything else. They are liberals FIRST before they are American. They are liberals FIRST before they are Jew. They are liberals FIRST before they are Catholic. They are liberals FIRST before they are anything else. And they seem to be incapable of understanding that morality is not defined by individual choice.

The purist and absolutely greatest threat to the human spirit is liberalism.

Rockntractor
02-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Yes. Im afraid you are probably right. Liberals are always liberals FIRST, before they are anything else. They are liberals FIRST before they are American. They are liberals FIRST before they are Jew. They are liberals FIRST before they are Catholic. They are liberals FIRST before they are anything else. And they seem to be incapable of understanding that morality is not defined by individual choice.

The purist and absolutely greatest threat to the human spirit is liberalism.

Their brains have everything neatly packed away in different compartments, none of the compartments interfere or effect the other compartments.

Novaheart
02-09-2012, 12:33 AM
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.

- Adolf Hitler

So we have an ambulance chaser quoting Hitler. Nice.

txradioguy
02-09-2012, 03:45 AM
So we have an ambulance chaser quoting Hitler. Nice.

That's rich coming from a Stalin loving queer.

Bailey
02-09-2012, 06:57 AM
The Democrat Catholics as well as the liberal Jews will vote for him without giving it a second thought.

Exactly, they'll vote for him even if his actions and beliefs are contrary to the bible.

noonwitch
02-09-2012, 09:54 AM
The catholics who voted for him last time already knew his stand on abortion, and voted for him regardless.
The cathloics who believe abortion is wrong didn't vote for him last time and won't this time.



If they don't vote for him this time, it's because of the economy.

txradioguy
02-09-2012, 09:56 AM
The catholics who voted for him last time already knew his stand on abortion, and voted for him regardless.
The cathloics who believe abortion is wrong didn't vote for him last time and won't this time.



If they don't vote for him this time, it's because of the economy.

Or perhaps they won't vote for him because they were lied to about the promise that they'd be exempt from Obamacare regulations like this one...and now they are being told they won't be.

Arroyo_Doble
02-09-2012, 09:59 AM
The catholics who voted for him last time already knew his stand on abortion, and voted for him regardless.
The cathloics who believe abortion is wrong didn't vote for him last time and won't this time.



If they don't vote for him this time, it's because of the economy.

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txradioguy
02-09-2012, 10:05 AM
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Cool! I love it when the debate reaches the picture stage.




:rolleyes:

AmPat
02-09-2012, 10:30 AM
The Democrat Catholics as well as the liberal Jews will vote for him without giving it a second thought.
Yep, to a liberal, government is God. I predict O Blah Blah will get at least 47% of the vote from these two voting blocks.:cool:

Apocalypse
02-09-2012, 12:29 PM
Ah the ACLU has now joined. Surprise who's side they took.


Religious groups that oppose President Obama’s mandate that they provide contraception are using the right to religious liberty as a way to discriminate against women, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said in an email opposing congressional repeal of the mandate.


“Anti-choice forces around the country are yelling from the rooftops about religious freedom,” wrote Laura Murphy, the ACLU’s director of the Washington Legislative office, in an email urging supporters to tell their congressional representatives to support the mandate . “But what they actually mean is the use of religion to discriminate and deny millions of women access to birth control.” Murphy faulted opponents of the mandate for “us[ing] religion to discriminate] against women.


The ACLU email framed the issue as a conflict between “lobbying groups” and Obama over the rights of women. “[W]hen lobbying groups — led by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops — insisted that the exemption be expanded to include religiously affiliated hospitals, universities and other institutions, jeopardizing coverage for millions of women, the Obama administration drew a line in the sand,” the email declared.
Keep reading… (http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/aclu-christians-are-discriminating-against-women/365956)

AmPat
02-09-2012, 12:40 PM
A government that can force religions to provide birth control can also dictate the illegality of using birth control. I wonder if libertards would instinctively line up behind that?

noonwitch
02-09-2012, 12:50 PM
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My parents' best friends were catholics. They priest/parish-shopped until they found a priest they could confess the use of contraception to and still receive communion at mass. This was in the 70s. They started going to a church run by the Paulist fathers, not that I really know that much about the various orders.

linda22003
02-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Here's David Hawkings' take from the CQ/Roll Call Daily Briefing that comes into my inbox about this time every day:

"PUSHED TO A RESPONSE: Obama is going to have to back down on his contraception coverage mandate well before Boehner and McConnell start forcing a reversal through legislation.

The president’s already going to be in the headlines twice today for politically popular moves, on education and mortgages, and may not want to muddy those messages. But it’s a safe bet that by sometime tomorrow he’ll announce some sort of modification of the new HHS rule. That’s because the politics of the imbroglio are rapidly spinning away from him, with Republicans quickly united and galvanized by what they see as a winning election-year return to the culture wars — and a growing number of centrist Democrats in politically perilous circumstances pressing the White House for a quick about-face on its decision.

The collective and quick calculation is that the government’s preservation of religious freedom is a much more popular idea than a government guarantee of access to free birth control — at least at the all-important center of the national political spectrum, where the independents who decide elections are. Those are the voters who will decide Virginia’s tossup open-seat Senate race — a statistical dead heat in five straight polls, including one this week — which is why former Democratic National Chairman Tim Kaine has come out against the new health care regulations. Same for Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, who don’t want their relatively clear shots at re-election sullied by the brouhaha and are urging the president to back down. The four other Catholic Democratic senators up this fall — Claire McCaskill, Maria Cantwell, Bob Menendez and Kirsten Gillibrand — are behind the White House so far but would be thrilled if the issue went away. And all of them are wondering why the president didn’t take the advice of the two most prominent Catholics in the administration at the time the decision was made — Biden and Bill Daley, who both warned emphatically of the political peril.

And yet the polling offers decent evidence that a softening of the HHS rule may be a snap decision that’s beyond what’s politically warranted. While Roman Catholic leaders are lambasting the regulations — which they see as an affront to their rights to run their hospitals, schools and other charities under their own moral rubric — there’s widely circulated polling that shows rank-and-file Catholic voters are solidly supportive of a birth control coverage requirement. And even if the Democrats slip below 50 percent in their support from Catholics at the polls, standing solidly behind the mandate should have no trouble boosting their support among women and younger voters."

AmPat
02-17-2012, 09:47 AM
I still believe that O Blah Blah and his Flying Monkeys shouldn't worry about the Catholic vote. The Catholics who were ideologically stupid enough to vote for the turd last time will dutifully vote for him again. They are liberals first and Catholics in name only.

Novaheart
02-17-2012, 12:16 PM
I still believe that O Blah Blah and his Flying Monkeys shouldn't worry about the Catholic vote. The Catholics who were ideologically stupid enough to vote for the turd last time will dutifully vote for him again. They are liberals first and Catholics in name only.

When are people going to give up on these old and ridiculous mythologies. Can you imagine Congress even lending an ear to Druid priests on the subject? And Druids are actually our cultural ancestors, not these fucking Arab wannabes and their desert gods.

Odysseus
02-17-2012, 01:50 PM
The catholics who voted for him last time already knew his stand on abortion, and voted for him regardless.
The cathloics who believe abortion is wrong didn't vote for him last time and won't this time.

If they don't vote for him this time, it's because of the economy.
There are some Catholics who voted for him the first time who won't vote for him again because of this, just as there are Jews who will not vote for him again. He's lost significant support among both groups according to the polls.

When are people going to give up on these old and ridiculous mythologies. Can you imagine Congress even lending an ear to Druid priests on the subject? And Druids are actually our cultural ancestors, not these fucking Arab wannabes and their desert gods.
The Druids are not our cultural ancestors. The Romans wiped the Druids out long before your ancestors came to America, and probably before they arrived in Britain (you're more likely to be descended from a Norman or a Viking raider, and would have a better case arguing that you have a direct line to Odin). However, our cultural history pretty much excludes the Druids, whose practice of human sacrifice has faint echoes in our media culture, as seen in political debates, but that's about it. Everything else that they had that has survived came to us via the Romans, who co-opted their holidays (although even those were co-opted earlier, from the Iberian Celts).

Fact is, our cultural heritage is not Druid, it's western European/Christian.

Tipsycatlover
02-17-2012, 08:35 PM
With the exception of the very hard core left, obaabaa has lost the support of Jews and Christians. He wrote off the white blue collar vote a year ago. Young college grads don't want him. The military despises him. He's got gays, blacks and OWS.

linda22003
02-18-2012, 10:51 AM
With the exception of the very hard core left, obaabaa has lost the support of Jews and Christians. He wrote off the white blue collar vote a year ago. Young college grads don't want him. The military despises him. He's got gays, blacks and OWS.

And if the GOP nominates Santorum, he'll STILL win in a landslide. :rolleyes:

AmPat
02-18-2012, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=Odysseus;484165]There are some Catholics who voted for him the first time who won't vote for him again because of this, just as there are Jews who will not vote for him again. He's lost significant support among both groups according to the polls.
I bet he still gets the Jewish and Catholic votes at nearly the same percentages as last time. I don't trust liberals to grow a brain cell in a scant four years.

Fact is, our cultural heritage is not Druid, it's western European/Christian.

Oh, I know you Dit-Ent!:nono: :concern:

Novaheart
02-18-2012, 12:26 PM
There are some Catholics who voted for him the first time who won't vote for him again because of this, just as there are Jews who will not vote for him again. He's lost significant support among both groups according to the polls.

The Druids are not our cultural ancestors. The Romans wiped the Druids out long before your ancestors came to America, and probably before they arrived in Britain (you're more likely to be descended from a Norman or a Viking raider, and would have a better case arguing that you have a direct line to Odin). However, our cultural history pretty much excludes the Druids, whose practice of human sacrifice has faint echoes in our media culture, as seen in political debates, but that's about it. Everything else that they had that has survived came to us via the Romans, who co-opted their holidays (although even those were co-opted earlier, from the Iberian Celts).

Fact is, our cultural heritage is not Druid, it's western European/Christian.

Our?

Rockntractor
02-18-2012, 12:45 PM
Our?

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Novaheart
02-18-2012, 12:47 PM
The Druids are not our cultural ancestors.

Speak for yourself.



The Romans wiped the Druids out long before your ancestors came to America, and probably before they arrived in Britain (you're more likely to be descended from a Norman or a Viking raider, and would have a better case arguing that you have a direct line to Odin).

The gift of the Romans was record keeping. While there has indeed been considerable genetic influence from Romans, Vikings, and Normans, there is quite a bit of indigenousness left in the peoples of the British Isles. Just as an aside, those Vikings who intermarried with Scots are the source of the Turkish genes in the Scottish people. Almost all of the British people trace their ancestry back to Coel (one or the other of them) circa 100 AD, as well as a variety of known and recorded persons. The Irish claim descent from Phoenicians. While genealogy prior to Norman times is considered unreliable, we know exactly where Christianity came from: Asia.

Zathras
02-18-2012, 12:48 PM
Our?

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Novaheart
02-18-2012, 12:59 PM
With the exception of the very hard core left, obaabaa has lost the support of Jews and Christians. He wrote off the white blue collar vote a year ago. Young college grads don't want him. The military despises him. He's got gays, blacks and OWS.

The blacks in the military despise him?
The gays in the military despise him?

Rockntractor
02-18-2012, 01:08 PM
Nova is assuming all blacks in the military are liberal.http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17432.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Novaheart
02-18-2012, 01:09 PM
Nova is assuming all blacks in the military are liberal.http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17432.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)


Interesting selectivity. Why didn't you say, "Nova is assuming that all blacks and gays in the military are liberal."?

Novaheart
02-18-2012, 01:12 PM
Nova is assuming all blacks in the military are liberal.http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17432.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Hell, some of the people in the US military aren't even Americans.

Rockntractor
02-18-2012, 01:14 PM
Interesting selectivity. Why didn't you say, "Nova is assuming that all blacks and gays in the military are liberal."?

I have no idea what direction the sexually defectives go.http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17429.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Novaheart
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
I have no idea what direction the sexually defectives go.http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17429.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

I think that Tipsy is assuming a lot of things. Obama got 44% of the military vote. If blacks are 20% of the military (this might be high since the military claims that blacks and other minority or demographics aren't over represented) then we still need to account for 24% of the military who voted for Obama. Maybe! They're Democrats!

You guys love to tell yourselves some stories, especially where the military is involved. The reality is that people join for a variety of reasons, from a variety of backgrounds, with a variety of politics, with a range of bravery, with a range of patriotism, with a range of almost every aspect of their persons. Why anyone would think it would be otherwise is generally answered around here with the convenient but dildering, "You wouldn't understand (you commie faggot)." Well, I wasn't impressed the first time I saw something similar to that on a T shirt celebrating the destruction of Virginia Beach and it sounds just as stupid coming out of someone who hasn't been as close to death as I have on a couple of occasions.

Tipsycatlover
02-19-2012, 04:17 PM
The blacks in the military despise him?
The gays in the military despise him?

Is this the majority of the military? The military has not been totally gayed up YET. Really, the mandate for soldiers to wear fake tits has only just started.

Novaheart
02-19-2012, 05:11 PM
Is this the majority of the military? The military has not been totally gayed up YET. Really, the mandate for soldiers to wear fake tits has only just started.

Obama got 44% of the military vote. For you to say "the military despise him" is inaccurate. The most you can say is that the majority of the military did not vote for him.

Novaheart
02-19-2012, 05:12 PM
Really, the mandate for soldiers to wear fake tits has only just started.

Afraid it will drive up the price?

AmPat
02-19-2012, 06:56 PM
Obama got 44% of the military vote. For you to say "the military despise him" is inaccurate. The most you can say is that the majority of the military did not vote for him.
I doubt your statistics but with the young demographic and larger percentage of Blacks than the general population, you may be correct. I suppose we could say the majority of the military despise him based upon more than 50% voting for the other guy.

Novaheart
02-20-2012, 01:06 AM
I doubt your statistics but with the young demographic and larger percentage of Blacks than the general population, you may be correct. I suppose we could say the majority of the military despise him based upon more than 50% voting for the other guy.

I didn't vote for McCain, I don't despise him.

Odysseus
02-20-2012, 01:33 AM
Obama got 44% of the military vote. For you to say "the military despise him" is inaccurate. The most you can say is that the majority of the military did not vote for him.

He got 44% of the military vote when he was an unknown quantity. Familiarity with his record, which included gutting our budget, ignoring Afghanistan for months while letting the CG's plan languish but then firing that CG within minutes of being dissed, claiming credit for getting Bin Laden after obstructing the mission, abandoning Iraq when we are needed there to maintain the security situation, scheduling the Afghan withdrawal regardless of the situation on the ground, cutting 80% of our nuclear arsenal and sucking up to our enemies while insulting and abusing our allies, has bred contempt.

Tipsycatlover
02-20-2012, 10:01 AM
Afraid it will drive up the price?

I appreciate your need to feminize the military. I know that this is a deep seated need of yours.

AmPat
02-20-2012, 10:47 AM
I didn't vote for McCain, I don't despise him.
You developed a taste for liberal males long ago, you don't count. Also, I'm certain that not only are you not in the military, you would never have made it through basic training.
For the record, I despise O Blah Blah, just so there's no confusion.:cool:

Novaheart
02-20-2012, 12:30 PM
You developed a taste for liberal males long ago, you don't count. Also, I'm certain that not only are you not in the military, you would never have made it through basic training.
For the record, I despise O Blah Blah, just so there's no confusion.:cool:

That standard narrows your choice to Ron Paul from the current crop if I am not mistaken.

BTW, you are funny.