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mike128
02-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Mitt Romney's campaign and its slashing Super PAC are locking their sights on Rick Santorum for a campaign that may make previous attacks on Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich look like mere love taps.


Romney advisor: "The expectation is that Santorum, just given his personality, is going to whine like crazy about this."

Here's a link to the full article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/heres-romneys-plan-to-take-out-santorum

djones520
02-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Dude... your making me want to post the dead horse picture.

Retread
02-14-2012, 11:02 PM
... dead horse picture.

It's time

Starbuck
02-15-2012, 12:23 AM
This'll work about as well as the Clinton Machine that destroyed Obama. Or the Moveon.org Machine that prevented Bush from serving two terms.

Rockntractor
02-15-2012, 12:39 AM
It's time

A new one.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Dead20Horse.jpg

mike128
02-15-2012, 12:48 AM
This'll work about as well as the Clinton Machine that destroyed Obama. Or the Moveon.org Machine that prevented Bush from serving two terms.
I really hope you're right, Starbuck.

Novaheart
02-15-2012, 12:48 AM
Thtop beating dead whores!!

NJCardFan
02-15-2012, 01:47 AM
Dude... your making me want to post the dead horse picture.

Well, to be honest, I'm convinced that the smear campaigns on Perry, Newt, and Cain were all brought on by Romney. This is the reason why I can't support him now and will have me wearing a clothespin on my nose come November but this idiot is playing Democrat politics instead of standing on his own 2 feet.

Hawkgirl
02-15-2012, 02:22 AM
Here's a link to the full article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/heres-romneys-plan-to-take-out-santorum

Are you a masochist?

Chuck58
02-15-2012, 02:33 AM
Well, to be honest, I'm convinced that the smear campaigns on Perry, Newt, and Cain were all brought on by Romney. This is the reason why I can't support him now and will have me wearing a clothespin on my nose come November but this idiot is playing Democrat politics instead of standing on his own 2 feet.

My feelings exactly. I don't like him and I don't trust him.

Romney is a sleaze in a nice suit. His smiles look fake and when he laughs they sound forced, phony.

I heard or read somewhere that he hired a coach to teach him conservative 'buzz words.' He apparently doesn't know conservatism well enough to be able to speak as a conservative. All I've heard from him so far is one of his last speeches, I think at CPAC where he said some form of the word 'conservative' 18 times.

Newt calls him a Massachusetts moderate. I say he's a Massachusetts liberal.

Zathras
02-15-2012, 05:31 AM
Here's a link to the full article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/heres-romneys-plan-to-take-out-santorum

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

Zathras
02-15-2012, 05:33 AM
A new one.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Dead20Horse.jpg

Heh, that one's better than mine because, in DUmbass128's case, it's true.

Odysseus
02-15-2012, 09:03 AM
Well, to be honest, I'm convinced that the smear campaigns on Perry, Newt, and Cain were all brought on by Romney. This is the reason why I can't support him now and will have me wearing a clothespin on my nose come November but this idiot is playing Democrat politics instead of standing on his own 2 feet.
The Cain smear was orchestrated by David Axelrod. Remember that the woman who came forward lived in his building and worked out of Chicago, where Cain had no business interests. Perry self-destructed in the debates by being unable to remember his own talking points. Newt and Romney went negative around the same time, with Newt accusing Romney of "vulture capitalism". That's not to say that Romney is a good candidate, or that I'd take him over Newt or Santorum, but the facts are what they are.

Are you a masochist?

No, he's a sadist. He keeps imposing this stuff on us.

JoeKwonDo
02-15-2012, 09:09 AM
Here's a link to the full article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/heres-romneys-plan-to-take-out-santorum

You gotta lay off the drugs dude - your fried... :p

AmPat
02-15-2012, 10:00 AM
My feelings exactly. I don't like him and I don't trust him.

Romney is a sleaze in a nice suit. His smiles look fake and when he laughs they sound forced, phony.

I heard or read somewhere that he hired a coach to teach him conservative 'buzz words.' He apparently doesn't know conservatism well enough to be able to speak as a conservative. All I've heard from him so far is one of his last speeches, I think at CPAC where he said some form of the word 'conservative' 18 times.

Newt calls him a Massachusetts moderate. I say he's a Massachusetts liberal.
I believe Masshole sums him up. Still, he beats the stinking turd in the White House any day. Matter of fact, you could throw a dart at any Occuturd gathering and select a better POTUS than the present one.

mike128
02-15-2012, 03:37 PM
Newt calls him a Massachusetts moderate. I say he's a Massachusetts liberal.
I've been calling Romney a Massachusetts Liberal for years.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 03:40 PM
I've been calling Romney a Massachusetts Liberal for years.

so, where is your faux outrage over Santrum's wife having lived with an abortion doctor for 5 years?

Arroyo_Doble
02-15-2012, 03:48 PM
The Cain smear was orchestrated by David Axelrod. Remember that the woman who came forward lived in his building and worked out of Chicago, where Cain had no business interests. Perry self-destructed in the debates by being unable to remember his own talking points. Newt and Romney went negative around the same time, with Newt accusing Romney of "vulture capitalism". That's not to say that Romney is a good candidate, or that I'd take him over Newt or Santorum, but the facts are what they are.


No, he's a sadist. He keeps imposing this stuff on us.


I don't believe that is accurate. Romney (or his super Pac wink wink nudge nudge) went after Newt in Iowa where Newt had pledged to run a clean campaign .... and got crushed for his efforts. After that, Newt took the gloves off.

A cynic might say Newt wouldn't go negative because he didn't have the money to do so in Iowa but still, Romney hit first.

mike128
02-15-2012, 03:50 PM
so, where is your faux outrage over Santrum's wife having lived with an abortion doctor for 5 years?
That was 30 years ago, before she met Rick. I believe that Santorum's wife truly had a change of heart, because it didn't coincide with running for president, like it did with Flip Romney. And abortion is only ONE issue that Romney flip-flopped on. What about Reagan? What about gay rights? What about gun laws? What about Scott Walker's union leglislation? What about Obamneycare? Shall I continue?

Chuck58
02-15-2012, 03:50 PM
I believe Masshole sums him up. Still, he beats the stinking turd in the White House any day. Matter of fact, you could throw a dart at any Occuturd gathering and select a better POTUS than the present one.

LOL I'd never heard that term before until we went to visit the wife's relatives, in NH and Maine. "Massholes" are not loved by the natives of those states.

In southern NH and Maine, it's hard to find natives. Both states are just about taken over by the Masshole immigrants, moving there to escape taxes etc - and then trying to turn those states into what they moved there to escape.

Zathras
02-15-2012, 03:51 PM
I've been calling Romney a Massachusetts Liberal for years.

Stop trying to prove that you're a conservative DUmbass. Nobody's buying the snakeoil you're trying to sell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

Zathras
02-15-2012, 03:53 PM
That was 30 years ago, before she met Rick. I believe that Santorum's wife truly had a change of heart, because it didn't coincide with running for president, like it did with Flip Romney. And abortion is only ONE issue that Romney flip-flopped on. What about Reagan? What about gay rights? What about gun laws? What about Scott Walker's union leglislation? What about Obamneycare? Shall I continue?

How about you stop lying and admit you're really a fucking liberal DUmbass?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

mike128
02-15-2012, 03:56 PM
Stop trying to prove that you're a conservative DUmbass. Nobody's buying the snakeoil you're trying to sell.
YOU'RE the one who was head-over-heels in love with Meg Whitman, Zathras. Not me.

Zathras
02-15-2012, 04:00 PM
YOU'RE the one who was head-over-heels in love with Meg Whitman, Zathras. Not me.

Yawn, lame assed come back from a lame assed DUmbass. I'm not in "head-over-heals love" with Meg Whitman but I do know she would have been much better for California than the candidate that you wanted you lying fucktard...that being Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown. Of course, living in New Jersey, you had no clue as to the true politics here in California. Too bad you have your head so far up your lying liberal ass to see this fact.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:04 PM
That was 30 years ago, before she met Rick. I believe that Santorum's wife truly had a change of heart, because it didn't coincide with running for president, like it did with Flip Romney. And abortion is only ONE issue that Romney flip-flopped on. What about Reagan? What about gay rights? What about gun laws? What about Scott Walker's union leglislation? What about Obamneycare? Shall I continue?

She married Rick cuz she wanted a family, not because she had a change of heart on the issue.

Romney's a liberal jackass, he's like Clinton, goes where the wind takes him. Once you get it through your head that we already know that, we'll stop bashing you and calling you a moron

Chuck58
02-15-2012, 04:11 PM
She married Rick cuz she wanted a family, not because she had a change of heart on the issue.

Romney's a liberal jackass, he's like Clinton, goes where the wind takes him. Once you get it through your head that we already know that, we'll stop bashing you and calling you a moron

All we need do is look back prior to 2008 to see the real Romney. He was anti gun before he decided to run for POTUS. Once he left Massachusetts and discovered that America between the coasts was a different animal than the socialist commonwealth, he did a flip and became pro gun, even joining the NRA to prove himself.

Romney, if he gets the nod and is elected, will flop back into his comfort zone - liberal and left. I don't like him, I don't trust him, but I'll vote for him hoping he's less dangerous and evil than the asshole in office now.

mike128
02-15-2012, 04:13 PM
Romney's a liberal jackass, he's like Clinton, goes where the wind takes him. Once you get it through your head that we already know that, we'll stop bashing you and calling you a moron
The problem is, you're willing to accept that and vote for Romney in the fall, no matter what, just to beat Obumbler. The Republican establishment knows this, which is why we'll never get a REAL conservative as our nominee.

The difference between you amd me is I'm telling the Republican establishment NO. I'm not going to vote for Obama-lite just to beat Obama. Perhaps if more of us stood up to the Republican establishment like this, they would realize that Romney can't win and support a REAL conservative for a change.

I'm really hoping Santorum gets the nomination so we can stop fighting like this.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:14 PM
All we need do is look back prior to 2008 to see the real Romney. He was anti gun before he decided to run for POTUS. Once he left Massachusetts and discovered that America between the coasts was a different animal than the socialist commonwealth, he did a flip and became pro gun, even joining the NRA to prove himself.

Romney, if he gets the nod and is elected, will flop back into his comfort zone - liberal and left. I don't like him, I don't trust him, but I'll vote for him hoping he's less dangerous and evil than the asshole in office now.

pretty much the reason I'm leaning Santorum, however I don't like Santorum's Big Government "Conservative" stances and record either.

mike128
02-15-2012, 04:18 PM
Romney, if he gets the nod and is elected, will flop back into his comfort zone - liberal and left.
That's exactly what I've been trying to say all this time. I wish more people on this forum would listen.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:19 PM
The problem is, you're willing to accept that and vote for Romney in the fall, no matter what, just to beat Obumbler. The Republican establishment knows this, which is why we'll never get a REAL conservative as our nominee.

The difference between you amd me is I'm telling the Republican establishment NO. I'm not going to vote for Obama-lite just to beat Obama. Perhaps if more of us stood up to the Republican establishment like this, they would realize that Romney can't win and support a REAL conservative for a change.

I'm really hoping Santorum gets the nomination so we can stop fighting like this.

The GOP establishment isn't going to listen to you anyways, they are a bunch of Libs as well. The problem with not voting for Romney is that if Obama gets back in he wont be scared to hold back (not that he has anyway), we'll see the SCOTUS changed dramatically and swing hard left for a LONG time. At lest with Romney it would be a slim chance that any SCOTUS appointments would be fairly conservative and willing to uphold the Constitution.


And I hate to tell you this, but if you think Santorum is a Conservative, better look again. he isn't, he's just more so than Romney. Anyone that comes in and tries to regulate what I do in my own home is no Conservative. That includes social big Gov types.

Arroyo_Doble
02-15-2012, 04:24 PM
The GOP establishment isn't going to listen to you anyways, they are a bunch of Libs as well. The problem with not voting for Romney is that if Obama gets back in he wont be scared to hold back (not that he has anyway), we'll see the SCOTUS changed dramatically and swing hard left for a LONG time. At lest with Romney it would be a slim chance that any SCOTUS appointments would be fairly conservative and willing to uphold the Constitution.


And I hate to tell you this, but if you think Santorum is a Conservative, better look again. he isn't, he's just more so than Romney. Anyone that comes in and tries to regulate what I do in my own home is no Conservative. That includes social big Gov types.

SCOTUS appointments require advise and consent of the Senate.

Chuck58
02-15-2012, 04:25 PM
pretty much the reason I'm leaning Santorum, however I don't like Santorum's Big Government "Conservative" stances and record either.

We needed the first string this election, and got the JV's again, just as happened in 2008. There are some excellent potential candidates out there, but we're being force fed Romney.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:29 PM
SCOTUS appointments require advise and consent of the Senate.

yeah, no shit, but the Pres puts forth the nominee. We know what we'll get from Obama, another Sotomayer or Keagan or 2.

mike128
02-15-2012, 04:29 PM
The GOP establishment isn't going to listen to you anyways, they are a bunch of Libs as well. The problem with not voting for Romney is that if Obama gets back in he wont be scared to hold back (not that he has anyway), we'll see the SCOTUS changed dramatically and swing hard left for a LONG time. At lest with Romney it would be a slim chance that any SCOTUS appointments would be fairly conservative and willing to uphold the Constitution.
Just take a look at what Romney's liberal Massachusetts Supreme Court picks have been doing, just to get an idea of how he would select Justices on the national level. You can easily Google it.


And I hate to tell you this, but if you think Santorum is a Conservative, better look again. he isn't, he's just more so than Romney. Anyone that comes in and tries to regulate what I do in my own home is no Conservative. That includes social big Gov types.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't get get more "big government" than RomneyCare.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:30 PM
We needed the first string this election, and got the JV's again, just as happened in 2008. There are some excellent potential candidates out there, but we're being force fed Romney.

yeah. We wouldn't even have to be talking about this if Daniels, Palin, or Ryan had jumped in.

Zathras
02-15-2012, 04:32 PM
Just take a look at what Romney's liberal Massachusetts Supreme Court picks have been doing, just to get an idea of how he would select Justices on the national level. You can easily Google it.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't get get more "big government" than RomneyCare.

Yawn, more fake outrage from CU's faux conservative.

Arroyo_Doble
02-15-2012, 04:34 PM
yeah, no shit, but the Pres puts forth the nominee. We know what we'll get from Obama, another Sotomayer or Keagan or 2.

Doubtful if the Republicans take the Senate (and who is being replaced). If it is one of the conservatives like Scalia or Thomas, Obama would be lucky to get a Kennedy or O'Connor past them. Very lucky.

If it is liberal for liberal, then they might put up a token fight.

The issue is the change in the equilibrium of the Court (now center-right). The same goes for Romney in the opposite direction.

Either way, the filibuster will be used.

Arroyo_Doble
02-15-2012, 04:35 PM
yeah. We wouldn't even have to be talking about this if Daniels, Palin, or Ryan had jumped in.

The only one good enough will always be the one not running. Haven't you figured that out yet?

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:40 PM
Just take a look at what Romney's liberal Massachusetts Supreme Court picks have been doing, just to get an idea of how he would select Justices on the national level. You can easily Google it.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't get get more "big government" than RomneyCare.

oh, I'm sure they are as liberal as Anthony Kennedy, however, with needing to get a chance at reelection he'll have to put up someone better than that.

Go Check Santorum's record in the Senate, he backed every Big Gov boondogle that Bush proposed, from No Child Left Behind, to Medicare part B (even though it's been a mild success), to Campaign Finance Reform. Santorum's not much better. His record has been posted here. I'm not pushing for anyone "pure", I would prefer someone who had a higher record than 77% conservative, 85+ would be much better.

Chuck58
02-15-2012, 04:40 PM
yeah. We wouldn't even have to be talking about this if Daniels, Palin, or Ryan had jumped in.

Daniels, Ryan, or two who say they aren't ready, Rubio or Allen West. We're in trouble this term. There is no earthly reason that anybody should even consider that obama might be re-elected. It shouldn't even be a question.

He's been a complete disaster from day one. But, there's a very real chance he might win barring a total collapse of the economy, gas jumping to $5 a gallon, or massive hyperinflation.

I've said it on other sites, there's something else at play in this election cycle. Maybe it's paranoia on my part. I can't shake the feeling that something is wrong.

As for SCOTUS appointments, if re-elected and a couple come up, obama will nominate his choices, they'll be vetted by Congress and approved. The Repubs will talk, wring their hands and talk some more, then vote for them. In all the years I've been voting, I don't think I've seen a weaker bunch of Republicans in office, with a few exceptions.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:45 PM
Daniels, Ryan, or two who say they aren't ready, Rubio or Allen West. We're in trouble this term. There is no earthly reason that anybody should even consider that obama might be re-elected. It shouldn't even be a question.

He's been a complete disaster from day one. But, there's a very real chance he might win barring a total collapse of the economy, gas jumping to $5 a gallon, or massive hyperinflation.

I've said it on other sites, there's something else at play in this election cycle. Maybe it's paranoia on my part. I can't shake the feeling that something is wrong.

As for SCOTUS appointments, if re-elected and a couple come up, obama will nominate his choices, they'll be vetted by Congress and approved. The Repubs will talk, wring their hands and talk some more, then vote for them. In all the years I've been voting, I don't think I've seen a weaker bunch of Republicans in office, with a few exceptions.

I agree, I've felt the same way, and probably for different reasons. My buddy does as well and has told me that the boards he goes to...there is an underlying current that things aren't going to go well after Nov. The "Anyone but Obama" crap is going to screw Conservatism over since it comes down to Hard Left vs Lib-litex2, Big Gov Neo-Con, and Dr Nutz.

fettpett
02-15-2012, 04:47 PM
Doubtful if the Republicans take the Senate (and who is being replaced). If it is one of the conservatives like Scalia or Thomas, Obama would be lucky to get a Kennedy or O'Connor past them. Very lucky.

If it is liberal for liberal, then they might put up a token fight.

The issue is the change in the equilibrium of the Court (now center-right). The same goes for Romney in the opposite direction.

Either way, the filibuster will be used.

Thats part of the reason why I've said that at this point, the House and Senate are more important than the Pres. At lest mitigate any damage that Obama would attempt to do.

Arroyo_Doble
02-15-2012, 05:10 PM
Thats part of the reason why I've said that at this point, the House and Senate are more important than the Pres. At lest mitigate any damage that Obama would attempt to do.

The Senate is doable in my opinion. I am surprised it has taken this long.

mike128
02-17-2012, 02:59 AM
And I hate to tell you this, but if you think Santorum is a Conservative, better look again. he isn't, he's just more so than Romney. Anyone that comes in and tries to regulate what I do in my own home is no Conservative. That includes social big Gov types.
None of the candidates in this election are 100% perfect. It's kind of frustrating that all of them have so many flaws. But when you ask yourself which candidate will really be a more conservative president, Romney or Santorum, which one would you pick? You can't honestly tell me that someone with as many flip-flops as Romney will even give a damn about conservatives if he gets into the White House.

Zathras
02-17-2012, 04:44 AM
None of the candidates in this election are 100% perfect. It's kind of frustrating that all of them have so many flaws. But when you ask yourself which candidate will really be a more conservative president, Romney or Santorum, which one would you pick? You can't honestly tell me that someone with as many flip-flops as Romney will even give a damn about conservatives if he gets into the White House.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

mike128
02-17-2012, 06:46 AM
Could you stop with the 'dead horse' already, Zathras? It's really getting old.

fettpett
02-17-2012, 08:38 AM
Could you stop with the 'dead horse' already, Zathras? It's really getting old.

so is your diatribe against Romney. You haven't even addressed the concerns with Santorum because you're so hung up on freaking Romney. Santorum is better yes, but not by a lot. Get that through your head.

Odysseus
02-17-2012, 09:30 AM
Could you stop with the 'dead horse' already, Zathras? It's really getting old.

When you stop beating the dead horse, he'll stop calling attention to it.

Get this through your head: None of the candidates that we have left are perfect, but none of them is as bad as Obama. Even Romney. Even Ron Paul. Frankly, I like the fact that Romney is willing to go negative against an opponent, although I'd prefer that he focus that on Obama, rather than committing fratricide, but when we get to the general election, the tactics that the Democrats will use will make our primary campaign look like an episode of Teletubbies. Whoever can beat them has my vote.

Zathras
02-17-2012, 02:40 PM
Could you stop with the 'dead horse' already, Zathras? It's really getting old.

So is your obsessive hatred of Mitt Romney who, while not being the perfect candidate (no candidate is perfect BTW), is a hell of a lot better than the current empty suited buffoon we currently have sitting in the White House right now. I've told you many times that when you stop, I'll stop. Don't like that? Too bad DUmbass...deal with it.