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namvet
02-23-2012, 01:11 PM
TAMPA (CBS Tampa) — Talk about pain at the pump! Some Florida drivers are spending nearly $6 a gallon to fill up their gas tanks.

According to GasBuddy.com, motorists are shelling out $5.89 for a gallon of regular gas at a Shell station in Lake Buena Vista, topping out at $5.99 a gallon for premium. It doesn’t get better at a Suncoast Energy station in Orlando, where drivers are paying $5.79 for a gallon of regular.

“Prices over in the Disney World area are much higher than any other place in Florida,” Jessica Brady, AAA spokeswoman, told CBS Tampa, adding that people regularly complain about gas prices in that area.

source (http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/florida-drivers-shelling-out-nearly-6-a-gallon-at-some-gas-stations/)

its already over 4 bucks in CA. lets see Obozo wiggle outta this

Arroyo_Doble
02-23-2012, 01:20 PM
3.58 this morning in Ft Worth.

namvet
02-23-2012, 01:22 PM
predictions are 5 bucks by spring time nationwide. if we have a nation left

Rockntractor
02-23-2012, 01:32 PM
This is all unimportant, birth control and hot Korans are what matters today.:rolleyes:

namvet
02-23-2012, 01:35 PM
This is all unimportant, birth control and hot Korans are what matters today.:rolleyes:

at 6 bucks a gallon they'll never arrive

Novaheart
02-23-2012, 01:37 PM
Lowest Gas Prices in St Pete Beach
Price Station City Time
3.63 CITGO
301 75th Ave & Boca Ceiga Dr St Pete Beach Feb 22, 12:59 PM
3.65 Exxon
350 75th Ave & Blnd Pass Rd St Pete Beach Feb 22, 12:59 PM
3.67 Mobil
4601 Gulf Blvd & 46th Ave St Pete Beach Feb 22, 5:45 PM
3.67 Exxon
4599 Gulf Blvd near 46th Ave St Pete Beach Feb 22, 4:03 PM


According to gas tracker http://www.baynews9.com/traffic/gas-tracker the price of gasoline in Lake Buena Vista is about $3.70/gal. in the last four hours. What gas price is the OP article using, Hertz?

Rockntractor
02-23-2012, 01:39 PM
There will be no economy if this continues, but the important thing to remember while we are fucking because we can't afford to do anything else, is that the birth control will be free!

Zathras
02-23-2012, 02:06 PM
It's almost $4.00 a gallon where I get my fuel at...and that's the cheap brand (ARCO). The big named stations like Shell, Chevron and 76 are $4.10+ per gallon.

namvet
02-23-2012, 02:09 PM
Lowest Gas Prices in St Pete Beach
Price Station City Time
3.63 CITGO
301 75th Ave & Boca Ceiga Dr St Pete Beach Feb 22, 12:59 PM
3.65 Exxon
350 75th Ave & Blnd Pass Rd St Pete Beach Feb 22, 12:59 PM
3.67 Mobil
4601 Gulf Blvd & 46th Ave St Pete Beach Feb 22, 5:45 PM
3.67 Exxon
4599 Gulf Blvd near 46th Ave St Pete Beach Feb 22, 4:03 PM


According to gas tracker http://www.baynews9.com/traffic/gas-tracker the price of gasoline in Lake Buena Vista is about $3.70/gal. in the last four hours. What gas price is the OP article using, Hertz?

suncoast energy in Orlando

5.79
5.89
5.99

sun gas in Orlando
same price's. are we using the same site???

namvet
02-23-2012, 02:16 PM
It's almost $4.00 a gallon where I get my fuel at...and that's the cheap brand (ARCO). The big named stations like Shell, Chevron and 76 are $4.10+ per gallon.

it was 3.49 here yesterday. today 3.90. yep. that fast

noonwitch
02-23-2012, 02:28 PM
My dad's gas price advice:

1. Never buy your gas from a station at the freeway exit (unless you are traveling), because the price is always higher.
2. Try to find a station at an intersection where there are 2 or more stations-they will compete with each other to have the lowest price.
3. Never, ever, ever buy your gas anywhere near a tourist attraction!


The price around Detroit ranges from $3.58 to $3.89 a gallon. It went up about .30 from Tuesday to Wednesday.

BadCat
02-23-2012, 03:06 PM
$3.69 here this morning...and rising almost daily.

Apocalypse
02-23-2012, 03:13 PM
I am heading out now to fill up. Locally its been $3.40ish. around here. Checking the national average its at $3.65 and climbing. I expect $4.00 or more by late next month at the latest the way its shooting up. This summer's driving is going to be killer.

Novaheart
02-23-2012, 03:43 PM
I am heading out now to fill up. Locally its been $3.40ish. around here. Checking the national average its at $3.65 and climbing. I expect $4.00 or more by late next month at the latest the way its shooting up. This summer's driving is going to be killer.

I get as upset by this as anyone, but at some point I have to calm myself. We need to remember that $3.60 is already outrageous, but given that it is $3.60 then $4 a gallon gasoline is only about a 10% increase. For me, that's about $10 a month.

The $4 mark is a powerful psychological threshold if the sumer of 2008 is to be the example (and it's the only one we have). The streets really did go dead here. Gulf Blvd was empty. Walmart's parking lot looked abandoned on week nights. Motor Scooters were flying out the doors of showrooms.

Another painful thing is when we realize that the people fucking us over are our own people. Sure, the Saudis like to get more for their oil and so does Venezuela and Mexico. But Exxon and Chase bank get a huge paycheck in this, without so much as breaking a sweat or making a phone call.

Apocalypse
02-23-2012, 03:54 PM
I get as upset by this as anyone, but at some point I have to calm myself. We need to remember that $3.60 is already outrageous, but given that it is $3.60 then $4 a gallon gasoline is only about a 10% increase. For me, that's about $10 a month.

The $4 mark is a powerful psychological threshold if the sumer of 2008 is to be the example (and it's the only one we have). The streets really did go dead here. Gulf Blvd was empty. Walmart's parking lot looked abandoned on week nights. Motor Scooters were flying out the doors of showrooms.

Another painful thing is when we realize that the people fucking us over are our own people. Sure, the Saudis like to get more for their oil and so does Venezuela and Mexico. But Exxon and Chase bank get a huge paycheck in this, without so much as breaking a sweat or making a phone call.
Nova, you forget its not only just directly on our pockets with higher fuel prices, but indirectly too. Food prices will rise, as well as every day prices too, as it will cost more to ship it to the stores. Higher prices may mean only to you an extra ten dollars directly at the pump, but could also translate into an extra $50 a week with higher product cost due to higher fuel cost.

namvet
02-23-2012, 04:05 PM
Nova, you forget its not only just directly on our pockets with higher fuel prices, but indirectly too. Food prices will rise, as well as every day prices too, as it will cost more to ship it to the stores. Higher prices may mean only to you an extra ten dollars directly at the pump, but could also translate into an extra $50 a week with higher product cost due to higher fuel cost.

a point i was gonna make. there are some goods at the store we simply can't afford anymore.

Retread
02-23-2012, 07:37 PM
........... Sure, the Saudis like to get more for their oil and so does Venezuela and Mexico. But Exxon and Chase bank get a huge paycheck in this, without so much as breaking a sweat or making a phone call.


Here we go with the BS machine again

With the price variation that's being quoted in the posts above I will guarantee not a single "oil company" has increased their profit a single penny. They are getting the price of oil as driven by supply, demand and guvmint rumor as they sell to refineries and that sale was 30-60 days ago. The same refinery that sells to the $3.49 station is getting the same price from it as it gets from the $4.89 station.
Secondly, regardless of the name on the sign outside, it is highly unlikely Shell, Exxon etc. own those stations but simply allow the station owners to use their insignia. Coastal? Now that's quite possibly a real question as they may be small enough to drill, pump, transport, refine and retail in one continuous profit train. Kerr McGee is like that in OK but they are usually the low price leader.
Thirdly, the majors are getting out of refining as fast as they can sell the facilities, hopefully all in one mass. With the current regulations and cost to modify existing facilities and the up-to-now total impossibility to build any new ones, it's just too damn much expense and trouble.
One refinery has been preliminarily approved since 1975. That one is in N. Dakota and requires minimum fed signoff as it is being built in the state primarily to distribute diesel within the state to the O&G industry drilling the Bakken play.
Lastly, if O&G had been subject to the normal inflation pressures that the autos they supply were, gasoline would be approaching $9-$10 today.

:smilie_wall: :smilie_wall: :smilie_wall: :smilie_wall: :smilie_wall:

Apocalypse
02-23-2012, 10:16 PM
Oh this so much fits.

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv022312dAPR20120223054527.jpg (http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2012/02/23/96687)

SaintLouieWoman
02-24-2012, 01:18 AM
One of the local television affiliates said that the almost $6 a gallon in Orlando is at a renegarde station that's regularly featured by them. It seems that it's the closest station to the Orlando airport, and they sock it to people stopping to fill up before returning their cars to the rental agencies. It would almost be cheaper to pay the Avis or Hertz price.

Novaheart
02-24-2012, 02:41 AM
Here we go with the BS machine again

With the price variation that's being quoted in the posts above I will guarantee not a single "oil company" has increased their profit a single penny.

That's interesting, Rex Tillerson defends the windfall, you as a good minion deny it exists.

This is from 2008 when gas climbed above $4 a gallon.

By LAUREN SHER
Aug. 13, 2008
ExxonMobil CEO and chairman Rex Tillerson defended his company's staggering $11.7 billion in profits for the second quarter, saying that the company's earnings reflected the magnitude of its business operation.



http://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/28/business/exxon-earns-nearly-11b-in-first-quarter-best-since-08/

In case you missed it or are too dim to understand plain English, Tillerson went on to say that the profits on gasoline are a percentage of price, so total profit will rise with the price.

Rockntractor
02-24-2012, 02:50 AM
That's interesting, Rex Tillerson defends the windfall, you as a good minion deny it exists.

This is from 2008 when gas climbed above $4 a gallon.

By LAUREN SHER
Aug. 13, 2008
ExxonMobil CEO and chairman Rex Tillerson defended his company's staggering $11.7 billion in profits for the second quarter, saying that the company's earnings reflected the magnitude of its business operation.



http://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/28/business/exxon-earns-nearly-11b-in-first-quarter-best-since-08/

In case you missed it or are too dim to understand plain English, Tillerson went on to say that the profits on gasoline are a percentage of price, so total profit will rise with the price.

Your point is the high fuel prices are all the fault of the oil companies?

Novaheart
02-24-2012, 02:57 AM
Your point is the high fuel prices are all the fault of the oil companies?

Read the article. You might find the "we can't drill our way out of this" part of interest.

Rockntractor
02-24-2012, 02:59 AM
Read the article. You might find the "we can't drill our way out of this" part of interest.

Your point is the high fuel prices are all the fault of the oil companies?

Novaheart
02-24-2012, 03:48 AM
Your point is the high fuel prices are all the fault of the oil companies?

Did I say that?

NJCardFan
02-24-2012, 08:37 AM
Read the article. You might find the "we can't drill our way out of this" part of interest.

Uh huh, and if we were drilling in ANWR when we wanted to, that oil would have been out of the ground by now and already refined. Same with off shore drilling. While other countries are drilling for Atlantic oil, your hero won't let us drill for our own. And by the way he bowed to the Saudi prince, it's hard to imagine why. :rolleyes:

Arroyo_Doble
02-24-2012, 11:09 AM
Uh huh, and if we were drilling in ANWR when we wanted to, that oil would have been out of the ground by now and already refined. Same with off shore drilling. While other countries are drilling for Atlantic oil, your hero won't let us drill for our own. And by the way he bowed to the Saudi prince, it's hard to imagine why. :rolleyes:

We are exporting distillate products.

namvet
02-24-2012, 01:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3alae5zkLQ

his energy speech yesterday in Miami. no silver bullet. we can't drill our way out. over and over. the GOP is taking advantage of his efforts. failures is more like it.

Rockntractor
02-24-2012, 01:29 PM
Did I say that?

What is your point then Nancy?:confused:

Novaheart
02-24-2012, 01:55 PM
What is your point then Nancy?:confused:

They should be dragged through the streets.

Rockntractor
02-24-2012, 02:01 PM
They should be dragged through the streets.

Lap up another bowl of that liberal mantra.

NJCardFan
02-24-2012, 02:02 PM
They should be dragged through the streets.

Hollywood makes a lot of profit as well. So does Apple. Should they be dragged through the streets or because they're a part of your ilk they get a pass.

Rockntractor
02-24-2012, 02:14 PM
I know a lot of retired people like my mother that have oil company stocks as part of their retirement funds, I guess we should hitch them up and drag them to.
Nancy needs to study China's communist revolution, they actually did this sort of thing.

Zathras
02-24-2012, 04:23 PM
They should be dragged through the streets.

Why when the government makes 33 times the profit through taxes than the oil companies? Where's the outrage over that?

Retread
02-24-2012, 07:08 PM
That's interesting, Rex Tillerson defends the windfall, you as a good minion deny it exists.

This is from 2008 when gas climbed above $4 a gallon.

Not today in FLa...

By LAUREN SHER
Aug. 13, 2008
ExxonMobil CEO and chairman Rex Tillerson defended his company's staggering $11.7 billion in profits for the second quarter, saying that the company's earnings reflected the magnitude of its business operation.


And he was entirely correct. As the world's largest PUBLICLY OWNED oil company, they should make the most profit to properly benefit their stockholders.


http://bangordailynews.com/2011/04/28/business/exxon-earns-nearly-11b-in-first-quarter-best-since-08/

In case you missed it or are too dim to understand plain English, Tillerson went on to say that the profits on gasoline are a percentage of price, so total profit will rise with the price.

But he did not say that XOM would be collecting all of that profit. There are pipelines, truckers, jobbers, distributors and station owners who, each and every one, will PROPERLY share in the profit in proportion to their efforts and expenses.

Since I spent 40 years of my life within the industry and the first 18 years of it living in the middle of several major oil fields, I do believe I can understand the reality much better than those who view the industry through the eyes of owlboring or moonbeam brown. This kind of BS has been flung at the hard working men and women who explore, drill, produce, transport, refine and sell fuel since shortly after I witnessed the end of WWII. At least during that terrible time in history, the industry was valued as without it, we could not have won.

by the by - the "shortage" in 2008? Came at the expense of guvmint decisions and actions, not a shortage. And oil or gas is not short today. Just the world is in an uproar and I would not at all be surprised to find out that the guvmint is again hogging several million barrels of storage space, blocking the movement of product and causing much of the fever as they did in the early 70s.

I have no idea what business (other than monkey business) that you might be in but riddle me this:
I sell a product. I pay 95 cents per including wholesale costs, labor, rent,and other expenses. I charge a dollar. that gives me the 5% average profit of retail in the US over time. But.... halfway through my current inventory, I am informed that my next order will cost me 97 cents per. As a business man is it not in my interest to raise my price immediately to insure I have enough cash on hand to restock when needed?

I personally believe that any and every soul who will admit to voting for the little o three years ago needs to be tarred, feathered and rode across the Rio Grande by a west Texas cowboy wearing Spanish rowels.

NJCardFan
02-25-2012, 12:35 AM
Hollywood makes a lot of profit as well. So does Apple. Should they be dragged through the streets or because they're a part of your ilk they get a pass.
Still no answer. I expected as much.

namvet
02-25-2012, 01:53 PM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7fnruqF.AQKGVVczQPDM9A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0yODg7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.go.com/abc_gas_prices_jump_ll_120222_wmain.jpg

watch the prices roll up behind this reporter in CA. note the prices posted

video (http://autos.aol.com/article/gas-prices-climbing-fast-hurts-obama-and-helps-hybrid-sales/?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl13%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D138325)

AmPat
02-25-2012, 02:01 PM
My dad's gas price advice:

1. Never buy your gas from a station at the freeway exit (unless you are traveling), because the price is always higher.
2. Try to find a station at an intersection where there are 2 or more stations-they will compete with each other to have the lowest price.
3. Never, ever, ever buy your gas anywhere near a tourist attraction!

The price around Detroit ranges from $3.58 to $3.89 a gallon. It went up about .30 from Tuesday to Wednesday.
Your dad had good advice but I'd add to his list:
Never elect an idiot, Marxist, DimoRAT, Socialist, Community Organizer to the White House.

SaintLouieWoman
02-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Your dad had good advice but I'd add to his list:
Never elect an idiot, Marxist, DimoRAT, Socialist, Community Organizer to the White House.

Amen to that!!!

I can't stand the lib speak that I hear in Sarasota. SR told me that it used to be conservative Republican, but now I hear way too many moonbats. I almost got into a heated argument in the physical therapy warm hydrotherapy pool. Some ranting lib was yapping about how sick she was when she "woke up and heard we'd have W for another 4 years." I couldn't help myself---asked if she were as sick as I was when I heard that O had won. :biggrin-new:

Then the therapist went into her rant about how they'd be impacted if Obama loses this time. I rolled my eyes and mentioned how Obamacare would impact them more, as they'd lose more funding through the cuts to Medicare. She muttered "that's what the propaganda said." I just shut up after that. It's a good thing that I used up all the therapy that my insurance would allow. Things were getting way too hot in that hot pool. :rolleyes:

namvet
02-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Amen to that!!!

I can't stand the lib speak that I hear in Sarasota. SR told me that it used to be conservative Republican, but now I hear way too many moonbats. I almost got into a heated argument in the physical therapy warm hydrotherapy pool. Some ranting lib was yapping about how sick she was when she "woke up and heard we'd have W for another 4 years." I couldn't help myself---asked if she were as sick as I was when I heard that O had won. :biggrin-new:

Then the therapist went into her rant about how they'd be impacted if Obama loses this time. I rolled my eyes and mentioned how Obamacare would impact them more, as they'd lose more funding through the cuts to Medicare. She muttered "that's what the propaganda said." I just shut up after that. It's a good thing that I used up all the therapy that my insurance would allow. Things were getting way too hot in that hot pool. :rolleyes:

we all know how full a crap lib women are


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lax5CsG8gsM

Retread
02-26-2012, 01:36 AM
Rising Gas Prices: Not Demand Driven (http://www.businessweek.com/finance/rising-gas-prices-not-demand-driven-02142012.html?campaign_id=yhoo)

Tom Kloza, (Chief oil analyst for the Oil Price Information Service)
“Petrol demand is as low as it’s been since April 1997. People are properly puzzled by the fact that we’re using less gas than we have in years, yet we’re paying more.”
Kloza believes much of the increase is due to speculative money that’s flowed into gasoline futures contracts since the beginning of the year, mostly from hedge funds and large money managers. “We’ve seen about $11 billion of speculative money come in on the long side of gas futures,” he says. “Each of the last three weeks we’ve seen a record net long position being taken.”
Refineries have also been getting squeezed by higher crude prices over the past several months, forcing some of them to shut down rather than operate at a loss, says Stevens. “The price that refineries have been paying for crude was roughly flat, while the price they were getting for gasoline was lower than what they needed to make their crack spread,” he says. A crack spread refers to oil refineries’ profit margins and is roughly the difference between what they pay for crude oil, and what they make by “cracking” crude into petroleum products such as refined gasoline. As the U.S. refining capacity has decreased, prices have begun to rise.
Prices aren’t high everywhere. Wyoming is $2.90, nearly a dollar cheaper than the average price in California. That’s largely due to the relatively cheap amount of crude that’s coming into the upper Midwest from Canada. “There is more diversity between crude prices now than I’ve ever seen in my career,” says Kloza. “It’s extraordinary.”

Odysseus
02-26-2012, 01:33 PM
It's not the demand, it's the supply and the policies:


Times Tough for Energy Overhaul
Struggling Economy, Falling Oil Prices Complicate Obama Team's Agenda


By NEIL KING JR. and STEPHEN POWER

WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama and his energy team could face the most inauspicious climate in years for pushing ahead with their plans to remake U.S. energy strategy.

Mr. Obama plans soon to introduce his energy and environment team, which will include Nobel Prize-winning physicist Steven Chu as energy secretary and former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Carol Browner as White House energy adviser.

The team's makeup shows that Mr. Obama plans to put a heavy emphasis on combating climate change and promoting technologies to wean the U.S. off imported oil. He is packaging such priorities as a way to boost employment and help the economy by pouring money into efficiency projects.


But the next administration will face a range of obstacles on the energy front, from plummeting oil prices and a declining economy to potential rifts among Mr. Obama's own advisers.

In a sign of one major internal difference, Mr. Chu has called for gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to coax consumers into buying more-efficient cars and living in neighborhoods closer to work.

"Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe," Mr. Chu, who directs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal in September.


But Mr. Obama has dismissed the idea of boosting the federal gasoline tax, a move energy experts say could be the single most effective step to promote alternative energies and temper demand. Mr. Obama said Sunday that a heightened gas tax would be a "mistake" because it would put "additional burdens on American families right now."


No U.S. president has made significant headway altering America's energy habits during a period of falling oil prices. After hitting an all-time peak this summer, U.S. gasoline prices have sunk to their lowest level in years. Experts predict prices will remain weak until the world economy begins to revive.
Falling prices and scarce credit already are putting the lid on hundreds of alternative-energy projects across the country, from wind farms to biofuel refineries. Reviving those projects, even with significant government incentives, won't be easy.


"There's no way we can create a better future without the price of [fossil-fuel-based] energy going up," said Jay Hakes, who headed the Energy Information Administration under President Bill Clinton. "But it's tough for a politician to get up and say 'Your prices are going to have to go up.' "


Few members of Congress support increasing the federal gasoline tax, and the last effort to impose a new energy tax -- under Mr. Clinton in 1993 -- fell apart in Congress.


Mr. Chu, who couldn't be reached Thursday for comment, said in the September interview that the federal government should impose higher efficiency standards for buildings and electronics. He added that the biggest misconception about energy policy is that "if you went to an energy-efficient economy, you will kill the economy. That is just demonstrably not true."


But there are differences among Mr. Obama's advisers over what constitutes sound energy policy.
Ms. Browner has been a critic of proposals to loosen restrictions on oil and natural gas drilling in the outer continental shelf, arguing that such moves would do little to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil and risk damaging U.S. coastlines. Her views on that issue put her sharply to the left of Mr. Obama's nominee for national-security adviser, retired Marine Corps Gen. James Jones, who supports expanded offshore drilling.


Ms. Browner's background and public comments also indicate she will push energy policy in ways that stir opposition from auto makers, coal-fired utilities and other industries. She has called publicly for letting the EPA reconsider whether greenhouse gases "endanger" health or welfare -- the legal trigger for regulating them under the Clean Air Act -- and for completing rules that would attempt to measure the greenhouse-gas emissions of renewable fuels like corn ethanol. Major business groups are already trying to persuade the EPA not to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions under the Clean Air Act, warning it will lead to a cascade of costly mandates covering bakeries, breweries, schools and many other relatively small emitters.


The next administration also will have to wrestle with the government's unwieldy energy bureaucracy, which critics say has stymied effective policies. Mr. Chu is poised to take over an agency that, despite its name, has little power to set energy strategy, and whose budget for research and development has become increasingly balkanized.


Most of the Energy Department's budget goes toward funding atomic-energy-defense activities, such as cleaning up nuclear and chemical waste at old weapons plants. The agency's budget for research in renewable, fossil and nuclear energy has fallen sharply over the years, and much of its R&D funding is tied up in projects earmarked by members of Congress for their home states, according to a report published in September by Securing America's Future Energy, a Washington nonprofit.


"Contrary to what everyone thinks, there's very little the Department of Energy can do to affect the types of fuel the country uses or the amounts they use," said Paul Portney, former president of Resources for the Future, a Washington think tank.


—Ian Talley contributed to this article.

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html

Gas prices are up because the administration is deliberately pursuing policies to raise them.

Apocalypse
02-26-2012, 02:14 PM
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html

Gas prices are up because the administration is deliberately pursuing policies to raise them.

I have no doubt there are those in his admin trying to do just that, and I have no doubt that Obama him self my be trying to do just that. (Don't need obama quote on higher gas prices.)

But this tactic will in the end cost him a second term. As the price goes up, Voters will grow more angry. Every thing will cost far more. And jobs will be hurt as companies try to curb rising cost by cutting labor.

Odysseus
02-27-2012, 12:47 AM
I have no doubt there are those in his admin trying to do just that, and I have no doubt that Obama him self my be trying to do just that. (Don't need obama quote on higher gas prices.)

But this tactic will in the end cost him a second term. As the price goes up, Voters will grow more angry. Every thing will cost far more. And jobs will be hurt as companies try to curb rising cost by cutting labor.

I love how the media is trying to deflect blame away from him.

BTW, $3.69 for regular on FT Belvoir, at the shopette. Off post gas runs about 10¢-20¢ more.

Apocalypse
02-27-2012, 01:05 AM
I love how the media is trying to deflect blame away from him.

BTW, $3.69 for regular on FT Belvoir, at the shopette. Off post gas runs about 10¢-20¢ more.

They can't deflect it for ever. Sooner or later they will have to ask the hard questions too. Why are you not doing more?

Its $3.42 here now. But its going up I expect this week. Iowa City and Cedar Rapids just over an hours drive to the west of me is $3.70 right now. And it is only a mater of time.

Just checked the national average. Its $3.65, still the same from earlier in the week when I checked. But I have a feeling thats not been updated in a while. SF was reporting $5. gas and Florida $6. I have a friend who said Chicago was $5 at some stations already.

djones520
02-27-2012, 01:35 AM
I love how the media is trying to deflect blame away from him.

BTW, $3.69 for regular on FT Belvoir, at the shopette. Off post gas runs about 10¢-20¢ more.

Shoppette here generally only has it 1-2 cents cheaper then off-base. SAMS Club is usually the best, but lately they've only been about 1 or 2 cents cheaper then the shoppette, making it not worth the gas to drive there.

Gas has been right around 3.67 for a few weeks now.

RedGrouse
02-27-2012, 01:52 AM
On the topic of gas prices. I am surprised they have not charged $7.

Analysis: Oil price rise raises specter of global recession
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/26/us-oil-recession-idUSTRE81P0JA20120226

Recession looks likely based on oil prices. Not good.

AmPat
02-27-2012, 11:13 AM
They can't deflect it for ever. Sooner or later they will have to ask the hard questions too. Why are you not doing more?

Its $3.42 here now. But its going up I expect this week. Iowa City and Cedar Rapids just over an hours drive to the west of me is $3.70 right now. And it is only a mater of time.

Just checked the national average. Its $3.65, still the same from earlier in the week when I checked. But I have a feeling thats not been updated in a while. SF was reporting $5. gas and Florida $6. I have a friend who said Chicago was $5 at some stations already.
They should just save some effort and ask Nova. He still maintains that gas was more expensive under the Ebil Bush cabol than under Pharoah O Blah Blah. :single_eye:

Odysseus
02-27-2012, 11:45 AM
Shoppette here generally only has it 1-2 cents cheaper then off-base. SAMS Club is usually the best, but lately they've only been about 1 or 2 cents cheaper then the shoppette, making it not worth the gas to drive there.

Gas has been right around 3.67 for a few weeks now.

I suspect that VA has a higher gas tax, which explains the greater difference in price. When I lived in NY and CA, there were significant differences between the on-post prices and the local markets, but in TX, Sam's club was actually cheaper than AAFES on FT Hood.

djones520
02-27-2012, 08:52 PM
Just noticed we increased to an average of $3.75 today. Yippee.

fettpett
02-27-2012, 09:16 PM
it went to 3.99 today here where I live :mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new:

djones520
02-27-2012, 09:18 PM
it went to 3.99 today here where I live :mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new::mad-new:

My mom was telling me it was $3.85 up in Manistee.

Retread
02-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Va is actually 40th rank in state gas tax with NY #1 and Alaska #50 (http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/26079.html).

Then, on top of that, here (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/02/27/How-Fuel-Efficient-Cars-Drive-Up-Gas-Prices.aspx#page1) everybody goes again.

Apocalypse
03-14-2012, 12:13 AM
Thought you guys might get a kick out of this.

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5pergallon.jpg


Taken at a gas station within walking distance of the White House!

Novaheart
03-14-2012, 12:35 AM
Thought you guys might get a kick out of this.

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5pergallon.jpg


Taken at a gas station within walking distance of the White House!

That's absurd. Regular is $3.69/gal here. My cousin lives near St John's College High School and the gas station near there routinely charges a dollar more a gallon. Why anyone buys gas there is beyond me. If I lived there, I would time my fill ups to happen elsewhere. When I was a teenager, the stations in DC charged about the same as Maryland; at least I don't recall the price difference being significant. I used to fill up on South Capitol Street or M St. SE on my way to work.

Novaheart
03-14-2012, 12:37 AM
Just noticed we increased to an average of $3.75 today. Yippee.

Something peculiar going on it seems. The price here went to $3.75 and then came back down. Last night, there was a 9 cent difference between Exxon and Supergas, normally Supergas is only a penny or two cheaper.

SaintLouieWoman
03-14-2012, 12:45 AM
That's absurd. Regular is $3.69/gal here. My cousin lives near St John's College High School and the gas station near there routinely charges a dollar more a gallon. Why anyone buys gas there is beyond me. If I lived there, I would time my fill ups to happen elsewhere. When I was a teenager, the stations in DC charged about the same as Maryland; at least I don't recall the price difference being significant. I used to fill up on South Capitol Street or M St. SE on my way to work.
Regular in Sarasota varies between $3.85 and $3.89 a gallon. I guess you have lower taxes in your part of Florida than in lovely Sarasota. If we go to Costco either in Tampa or Clearwater, or if we go south to the Costco in Ft Myers for our monthly or bi-monthly run for dog food and all good things Costco that can't get at Sam's in Sarasota, we always fill the tank in either location.

We have too many libs here in Sarasota. They love to raise those taxes. :livid:

Apocalypse
03-14-2012, 12:46 AM
Just checked gas buddy, its not Photoshopped.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/Dispel_Illusions/Capture-2.jpg

Thou they are higher then others in the DC area, most are $4.00 But there are some getting up there.

m00
03-14-2012, 02:26 AM
This is all unimportant, birth control and hot Korans are what matters today.:rolleyes:

Man, you are going to be all over me for saying this... but I think Ron Paul is right in that it's not just the cost of gasoline going up but also the value of the dollar going down. I've lived abroad for 6 years or so... Australia, Norway and now Canada. You really notice it when you get paid in foreign currency, but the dollar has taken an incredible beating. My AUD sitting in an Australian bank account from 2006 has outperformed a lot mutual funds. Let me put it this way. If you dumped 35,000 USD into AUD in 2006 today you would have 52,500 USD. That can't be helping our ability to buy oil on a global market.

txradioguy
03-14-2012, 05:02 AM
I'll trade prices with you guys griping about $3.50 - $3.75


Per Gallon
Per Liter
Cng. (+/-)

Super E10
$3.947
$1.043
+0.072
Super
$4.074
$1.076
+0.065
Super Plus
$4.197
$1.109
+0.060
Diesel
$4.248
$1.122
+0.043

http://afneurope.net/GasPrices/tabid/87/Default.aspx

namvet
03-14-2012, 10:29 AM
Thought you guys might get a kick out of this.

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5pergallon.jpg


Taken at a gas station within walking distance of the White House!

might as well say drop your pants and bend over OR use another source

http://humorpig.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/old-guy-peeing-in-gas-tank.jpg

AmPat
03-14-2012, 01:51 PM
Looks like the state taxes tend to be much higher in traditional liberal states than Conservative ones. Hmmm, I wonder if thise higher taxes are fixing anything?:rolleyes: