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SarasotaRepub
02-28-2012, 09:08 AM
Ahhhh...the all knowing "Super Brains" jump on board with Krugman (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002357072) :rolleyes::rolleyes:




Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:25 PM
pampango




Krugman: Conservatives become less willing to look at the facts ... as they become better-educated

Digby sends us to Chris Mooney (http://www.alternet.org/story/154252/the_republican_brain%3A_why_even_educated_conserva tives_deny_science_--_and_reality/?page=entire) on how conservatives become less willing to look at the facts, more committed to the views of their tribe, as they become better-educated:
For Republicans, having a college degree didn’t appear to make one any more open to what scientists have to say. On the contrary, better-educated Republicans were more skeptical of modern climate science than their less educated brethren. Only 19 percent of college-educated Republicans agreed that the planet is warming due to human actions, versus 31 percent of non-college-educated Republicans.

But it’s not just global warming where the “smart idiot” effect occurs. It also emerges on nonscientific but factually contested issues, like the claim that President Obama is a Muslim. Belief in this falsehood actually increased more among better-educated Republicans from 2009 to 2010 than it did among less-educated Republicans, according to research by George Washington University political scientist John Sides.

What Chris Mooney is telling us is that this is a vain hope. Highly educated political conservatives — and this includes conservative economists — are going to be less persuadable by empirical evidence than the man or woman in the street. The more holes you poke in doctrines like expansionary austerity or supply-side economics, the more committed they will get to those doctrines.

This debate isn’t going to be won by rational argument.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/this-tribal-nation/

It's been obvious that republicans have been bound by ideology over real world evidence of what works and what has failed, but I had not seen the evidence of the inverse link with the level of republicans' education and openness to looking at the facts.





These idiots, in their quest to be "all knowing" just totally miss the fucking point.

DumbAss Tanker
02-28-2012, 11:11 AM
Krugman. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

AmPat
02-28-2012, 12:57 PM
Meh,

Krugman has been mixing the Kool aid for the Drones for years. He's merely serving up more potent doses these days.

Eupher
02-28-2012, 01:16 PM
What Krugman is really saying is, "Okay, the debate won't be won by rational argument. So we'll resort to lies, obfuscation, deceit, and the "scientific" agenda that states, 'Where am I gonna get my next grant if I don't convince the politicians and those too stupid to disagree with me that the earth is really warming and humans are responsible for it if I don't lie?'"

Dan D. Doty
02-28-2012, 03:38 PM
What Krugman is really saying is, "Okay, the debate won't be won by rational argument. So we'll resort to lies, obfuscation, deceit, and the "scientific" agenda that states, 'Where am I gonna get my next grant if I don't convince the politicians and those too stupid to disagree with me that the earth is really warming and humans are responsible for it if I don't lie?'"

Ditto :biggrin-new:

Odysseus
02-28-2012, 04:37 PM
What Krugman is really saying is, "Okay, the debate won't be won by rational argument. So we'll resort to lies, obfuscation, deceit, and the "scientific" agenda that states, 'Where am I gonna get my next grant if I don't convince the politicians and those too stupid to disagree with me that the earth is really warming and humans are responsible for it if I don't lie?'"

Yep, not to mention ad hominem attacks against those that he cannot beat through persuasion. This is typical Krugman. A few years ago, the NY Times shut down the comments on his blog because economists kept writing in and nuking his arguments. He couldn't out-debate anyone, so they eliminated the forum for the arguments. Krugman's the Barney Fife of the new thought police.

djones520
02-28-2012, 04:56 PM
Maybe being better educated, they know that there is no such thing as a "concensus", and they can see the facts for what they are.

txradioguy
02-28-2012, 04:58 PM
Yep, not to mention ad hominem attacks against those that he cannot beat through persuasion. This is typical Krugman. A few years ago, the NY Times shut down the comments on his blog because economists kept writing in and nuking his arguments. He couldn't out-debate anyone, so they eliminated the forum for the arguments. Krugman's the Barney Fife of the new thought police.

And then when the masses take to his blog to show how little he really knows about the real world...he shuts it down to any and all comments.

Odysseus
02-28-2012, 06:14 PM
And then when the masses take to his blog to show how little he really knows about the real world...he shuts it down to any and all comments.

Yep. Fortunately, the Krugman Truth Squad is still there to keep the record straight:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Krugman-Truth-Squad-Paul-Krugman-New-York-Times-Don-Luskin/174792672579495?sk=wall

FDK
02-29-2012, 01:27 AM
Better educated people understand the science is always evolving. Any serious scientific explanations for global warming always include qualifiers such as "could" or "may" because people who understand science aren't arrogant enough to think that man knows everything. The press and the ecotards always translate these words into does and will while claiming GW is "settled science."

GW is both a religion and an industry.

Dan D. Doty
02-29-2012, 04:17 AM
Yep, not to mention ad hominem attacks against those that he cannot beat through persuasion. This is typical Krugman. A few years ago, the NY Times shut down the comments on his blog because economists kept writing in and nuking his arguments. He couldn't out-debate anyone, so they eliminated the forum for the arguments. Krugman's the Barney Fife of the new thought police.

I found this to be typical of many of the Moonbats I've encountered over the years.

Rants are facts, censorship is open discussion, emotionalism is reason, and all debates are done with one Moonbat and an empty chair.


Moonbats don't back anything up with facts ( if you do, they dismiss them quickly and without reason).

The rational mind must go where the facts and evidence leads.

The Moonbat comes with a belief and cherry picks fact to fit it ( if no facts fit, they are then created).

Moonbats lose debates, that's why they avoid them like the plague.

AmPat
02-29-2012, 02:37 PM
I found this to be typical of many of the Moonbats I've encountered over the years.

Rants are facts, censorship is open discussion, emotionalism is reason, and all debates are done with one Moonbat and an empty chair.


Moonbats don't back anything up with facts ( if you do, they dismiss them quickly and without reason).

The rational mind must go where the facts and evidence leads.

The Moonbat comes with a belief and cherry picks fact to fit it ( if no facts fit, they are then created).

Moonbats lose debates, that's why they avoid them like the plague.Or have them fixed and /or moderated by other moonbats.

Dan D. Doty
03-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Or have them fixed and /or moderated by other moonbats.

I notice that too.

Suddenly your post have been edited, or the Mod acts on everything the Moonbats bitches about.


And here's a fav, they won't debate you because they only debate people of equal statue of themselves; college professors, high office holders, far Left authors.

Your basic Moonbat doesn't debate because they get asses handed to them. But like the cat who jumped up on a hot stove, they'll debate someone once and be too afraid to look like a fool again ( even thou they'll tell their buddies how they made the other guy cry :rolleyes:).

FlaGator
03-02-2012, 03:24 PM
On the other hand this information could be telling us that the left is extremely gullible and easily influenced by junk science no matter what their education level.

Articulate_Ape
03-02-2012, 05:36 PM
Yep, not to mention ad hominem attacks against those that he cannot beat through persuasion. This is typical Krugman. A few years ago, the NY Times shut down the comments on his blog because economists kept writing in and nuking his arguments. He couldn't out-debate anyone, so they eliminated the forum for the arguments. Krugman's the Barney Fife of the new thought police.

Ayup, Krugman is a dunce. This is my favorite Krugman moment:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPd2i4Jshs

AmPat
03-02-2012, 11:46 PM
Ayup, Krugman is a dunce. This is my favorite Krugman moment:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPd2i4Jshs
It wasn't enough for the idiot left to force on Americans their version of what is best for us peons. They wouldn't listen to over 60 percent of Americans who did not want their forced government health care. No, our opinion didn't matter so this moron had to ask Canadians, who basically told him what Americans did. And yet, the left marches us on toward their communist utopia.

RedGrouse
03-03-2012, 01:32 PM
Let's not forget this.

The Years of Shame
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-years-of-shame/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto