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Rockntractor
02-28-2012, 06:49 PM
By Jemey Jojola
9News


Debit cards issued to provide assistance to welfare recipients were used to withdraw cash at ATMs in strip clubs, casinos, bingo halls and amusement parks, a 9News investigation found.

Read more: Colorado welfare debit cards used at casinos, strip clubs - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_20058326?source=commented-news#ixzz1niQtB2Xz

Odysseus
02-28-2012, 07:02 PM
By Jemey Jojola
9News


Debit cards issued to provide assistance to welfare recipients were used to withdraw cash at ATMs in strip clubs, casinos, bingo halls and amusement parks, a 9News investigation found.

Read more: Colorado welfare debit cards used at casinos, strip clubs - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_20058326?source=commented-news#ixzz1niQtB2Xz

Well, since every pole dancer that I've ever met has claimed to be a student, this is obviously a way of subsidizing college for those poor unfortunate waifs. :biggrin-new:

JB
02-28-2012, 08:17 PM
What we need to do to fix this is apologize to Afghanistan some more.

fettpett
02-28-2012, 09:31 PM
hey, even those girls need the income...it's got to come from somewhere...might as well be from the state...even if 3rd party

Odysseus
02-28-2012, 10:00 PM
hey, even those girls need the income...it's got to come from somewhere...might as well be from the state...even if 3rd party

Exactly. Otherwise, the government gets to use it for its own ends. Given a choice, I'd rather have my money go to boobs in clubs than boobs in the administration.

JB
02-28-2012, 10:36 PM
Well, since every pole dancer that I've ever met has claimed to be a student, this is obviously a way of subsidizing college for those poor unfortunate waifs. :biggrin-new:Someone should do a study on the inverse relationship of being able to slide down a pole head first and your failure in your ability to obtain scholarship money.

Serious, all these "dancers" are in school but none of them can get grants? Sounds discriminatory.

Starbuck
02-28-2012, 11:27 PM
Well, since every pole dancer that I've ever met has claimed to be a student, this is obviously a way of subsidizing college for those poor unfortunate waifs. :biggrin-new:

Hey! I met her!....But that was in San Francisco in 1966. Is she still going to school??!!:smile-new:

NJCardFan
02-29-2012, 12:00 AM
A show of hands from anyone who finds this surprising...

fettpett
02-29-2012, 12:14 AM
Someone should do a study on the inverse relationship of being able to slide down a pole head first and your failure in your ability to obtain scholarship money.

Serious, all these "dancers" are in school but none of them can get grants? Sounds discriminatory.

there are a lot of really smart dancers...the money is just damn good for a lot of them

noonwitch
02-29-2012, 03:59 PM
I saw someone buying booze at Meijer with an EBT card. I don't get how the stores are getting away with this, not just the recipients.

If a store can have a computer register system that makes it impossible to ring up the sale of alcohol or tobacco without entering a birthdate, then it can come up with a way to prevent selling the same products to someone using an EBT card. The only problem I can see is that whatever kind of card is being used (EBT, Debit or credit), the customer usually swipes it at the end of the transaction. EBT users could be required to swipe their cards prior to the sale.

I think that stores that allow this should be treated like stores that sell alcohol to minors. It's not like they can't make EBT users pay for their booze in a separate, cash transaction.

The EBT cards were issued because the food stamp program was open to too much fraud. Now, the stores are actually helping the clients commit fraud.

Arroyo_Doble
02-29-2012, 04:04 PM
I saw someone buying booze at Meijer with an EBT card. I don't get how the stores are getting away with this, not just the recipients.

If a store can have a computer register system that makes it impossible to ring up the sale of alcohol or tobacco without entering a birthdate, then it can come up with a way to prevent selling the same products to someone using an EBT card. The only problem I can see is that whatever kind of card is being used (EBT, Debit or credit), the customer usually swipes it at the end of the transaction. EBT users could be required to swipe their cards prior to the sale.

I think that stores that allow this should be treated like stores that sell alcohol to minors. It's not like they can't make EBT users pay for their booze in a separate, cash transaction.

The EBT cards were issued because the food stamp program was open to too much fraud. Now, the stores are actually helping the clients commit fraud.

That was pretty much my first question: How?

djones520
02-29-2012, 04:43 PM
That was pretty much my first question: How?

Do something like WIC. Have a list of items that are suitable, and the cashier has to enter a code to be able to use the card, after verifying that everything in that purchase is kosher.

Arroyo_Doble
02-29-2012, 04:50 PM
Do something like WIC. Have a list of items that are suitable, and the cashier has to enter a code to be able to use the card, after verifying that everything in that purchase is kosher.

No, I meant how do they use their cards in this manner. I thought for sure there would be systems in place to prevent such usage.

I have an FSA card. I can only use it for healthcare related expenses (and I am sometimes even required to prove it after the fact). It won't work for tittie-flops and blackjack.

djones520
02-29-2012, 04:56 PM
No, I meant how do they use their cards in this manner. I thought for sure there would be systems in place to prevent such usage.

I have an FSA card. I can only use it for healthcare related expenses (and I am sometimes even required to prove it after the fact). It won't work for tittie-flops and blackjack.

From what I understand of the Michigan EBT card, there is no safeguard. There is a list of eligible only items it seems, but if the cashier doesn't give a damn, then whose gonna stop you?

Noon is right, the state gov should come down on the stores that does things like that.

Retread
03-01-2012, 01:00 AM
Coulda, shoulda, woulda - that's gubmint for you.