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Bailey
04-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Anyone see this piece of trash? I just wasted 2hrs of my life i can never get back. I understand about being a good steward of the planet but the message i received was that all corporations are bad. I had to explain to my daughter before she is brainwashed into believing this shit.

Retread
04-01-2012, 05:54 PM
................ before she is brainwashed into believing this shit.

You really should have known this going it. It is clearly apparent from the ads.

Bailey
04-01-2012, 06:08 PM
You really should have known this going it. It is clearly apparent from the ads.

I didnt pay them much mind, I wanted to go see the Hungergames :(

Retread
04-01-2012, 06:16 PM
I didnt pay them much mind, I wanted to go see the Hungergames :(

Excellent read but I skipped the film. I already saw it live as I read. And mine didn't leave out scenes.

Bailey
04-01-2012, 06:23 PM
Excellent read but I skipped the film. I already saw it live as I read. And mine didn't leave out scenes.

I Hear its better to watch the movie then read the book rather then the other way around.

Retread
04-01-2012, 06:49 PM
My older daughter read it first (a couple of years ago) and then saw the movie opening night. She enjoyed it but she told me the discussion after was mostly about what got left out or was changed.

in 5-6 years, when all three are out, I'll either rent or buy the set and watch them one after the other. By then I will have forgotten enough of the story to not miss the left-outs.

Gentleman Pirate
04-01-2012, 06:56 PM
Excellent read but I skipped the film. I already saw it live as I read. And mine didn't leave out scenes.


If you go into a movie thinking that its going to stick to the book 100%, your going to have a bad time.

Retread
04-01-2012, 07:04 PM
If you go into a movie thinking that its going to stick to the book 100%, your going to have a bad time.

Learned that about 60 years ago.

SaintLouieWoman
04-01-2012, 07:08 PM
Anyone see this piece of trash? I just wasted 2hrs of my life i can never get back. I understand about being a good steward of the planet but the message i received was that all corporations are bad. I had to explain to my daughter before she is brainwashed into believing this shit.
Getting back to the Lorax, I saw Danny DeVito interviewed a few weeks ago. He's a nasty little twit and was doing the anti-big business, pro environment rant but in a really, really mean way. He's another one on my all time list of obnoxious Hollywood libs.

Bailey
04-01-2012, 07:54 PM
Getting back to the Lorax, I saw Danny DeVito interviewed a few weeks ago. He's a nasty little twit and was doing the anti-big business, pro environment rant but in a really, really mean way. He's another one on my all time list of obnoxious Hollywood libs.

Thats a shame I never thought he was such a shill for the left.

Wei Wu Wei
04-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Anyone see this piece of trash? I just wasted 2hrs of my life i can never get back. I understand about being a good steward of the planet but the message i received was that all corporations are bad. I had to explain to my daughter before she is brainwashed into believing this shit.

You got the message that all corporations are bad? The Lorax has been one of the most pro-corporation ad campaigns ever. It's got dozens of promotional tie-ins and has corporate logos slapped all over it.

What did you explain to her, to keep her from being brainwashed?

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 08:49 PM
What did you explain to her, to keep her from being brainwashed?

What ever he said was explained so a kid could understand and that would be over your head.

AmPat
04-01-2012, 10:01 PM
What ever he said as explained so a kid could understand and that would be over your head.
You beat me to it. I didn't see the film but a liberal like Wei Wei would reflexively defend against any attack on a movie that suits his narrative. I bet he just loved Atlas Shrugged.

Wei Wu Wei
04-01-2012, 11:44 PM
i'm no liberal

Apache
04-02-2012, 12:31 AM
i'm no liberal

proud commie is more like it

AmPat
04-02-2012, 12:41 AM
i'm no liberal

I was trying to be nice. It was the kindest label I could muster.

Zathras
04-02-2012, 01:34 AM
i'm no liberal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OWL7AzvHo

Bailey
04-02-2012, 06:42 AM
You got the message that all corporations are bad? The Lorax has been one of the most pro-corporation ad campaigns ever. It's got dozens of promotional tie-ins and has corporate logos slapped all over it.

What did you explain to her, to keep her from being brainwashed?

Well I cant speak to your point about the ad campaigns cause I have much more important things to do, but like I said if this movie was just a standard take care of the environmental movie I could live with that. I told her that if she ever became a socialist I would beat her to an inch of her life, for her own good that is.

Wei Wu Wei
04-02-2012, 08:13 AM
Well I cant speak to your point about the ad campaigns cause I have much more important things to do, but like I said if this movie was just a standard take care of the environmental movie I could live with that. I told her that if she ever became a socialist I would beat her to an inch of her life, for her own good that is.

Interesting

Odysseus
04-02-2012, 10:01 AM
You got the message that all corporations are bad? The Lorax has been one of the most pro-corporation ad campaigns ever. It's got dozens of promotional tie-ins and has corporate logos slapped all over it.

What did you explain to her, to keep her from being brainwashed?

Well, first he told her to stay out of any class that you teach.

Movies are a business. The problem isn't that they are made by corporations, it's that the creative end is completely ignorant of economics, and produces hypocritical pablum.

BTW, unions are also corporations. Check out their filings some time. The difference is, a business produces something that people want, while a union simply extorts money.

Arroyo_Doble
04-02-2012, 02:08 PM
It's a cautionary book about the destruction of the environment. Not sure how you can make that without some criticism of the destroyers. I suppose you could do it by laying all at the feet of the consumer (which the book does to some extent .... you need a market for your ex-trees).

It just makes me think of Easter Island without the big fucking heads.

Odysseus
04-02-2012, 03:55 PM
It's a cautionary book about the destruction of the environment. Not sure how you can make that without some criticism of the destroyers. I suppose you could do it by laying all at the feet of the consumer (which the book does to some extent .... you need a market for your ex-trees).

It just makes me think of Easter Island without the big fucking heads.

The problem is that the book creates a straw man, a rapacious machine that indiscriminately destroys nature for profit, but given Dr. Seuss' political leanings, that's not surprising.

Arroyo_Doble
04-02-2012, 04:06 PM
The problem is that the book creates a straw man, a rapacious machine that indiscriminately destroys nature for profit, but given Dr. Seuss' political leanings, that's not surprising.

The book was written in 1971. Not sure it was a straw man back then when you consider the Cuyahoga River caught fire (as one example ... I can get others if you like) just two years earlier.

Odysseus
04-02-2012, 04:13 PM
The book was written in 1971. Not sure it was a straw man back then when you consider the Cuyahoga River caught fire (as one example ... I can get others if you like) just two years earlier.

It was always a straw man. Economics is about costs and benefits. When the Cuyahoga River caught fire, the environmental cost was made obvious and the response of the people of Ohio was to seek another outlet for chemical waste. The left presumes that capitalism will destroy the environment, but only free societies with stringent property rights ever actually protect the environment.

Arroyo_Doble
04-02-2012, 04:28 PM
It was always a straw man. Economics is about costs and benefits. When the Cuyahoga River caught fire, the environmental cost was made obvious and the response of the people of Ohio was to seek another outlet for chemical waste. The left presumes that capitalism will destroy the environment, but only free societies with stringent property rights ever actually protect the environment.

That is an interesting interpretation of events.

Why did it take them 100 years to do the math?

Generation Why?
04-02-2012, 05:00 PM
1. Atlas Shrugged is amazing

2. I remember reading The Lorax as a kid. As long as Hollywood is left-leaning, they will always do this when it comes to politicizing every issue. I will just remember when I read it years ago and leave it at that. No reason getting all hot and bothered over it.

Odysseus
04-02-2012, 05:41 PM
That is an interesting interpretation of events.

Why did it take them 100 years to do the math?

Who says that it did? When did the river start to catch fire?

Arroyo_Doble
04-02-2012, 05:45 PM
Who says that it did? When did the river start to catch fire?

I believe the first time was in the 1860's.