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mike128
04-01-2012, 06:57 PM
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full/public/AP03050201358.jpg


REALLY??

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 06:59 PM
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full/public/AP03050201358.jpg


REALLY??

Yes! Now go stick your head in the toilet, flush it 5 times and come back and tell me how you feel!

Retread
04-01-2012, 07:00 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E5tv7Vm0fsY/TFNonQuUVFI/AAAAAAAAAHc/-zDdxKLY0JA/s320/fdh.jpg

Gentleman Pirate
04-01-2012, 07:01 PM
No, not really. But it looks like it will be a Romney/Obama November election so I have no choice.

Zathras
04-01-2012, 07:18 PM
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full/public/AP03050201358.jpg


REALLY??

Well, it's preferrable to what you really want....

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/bm~pix/obama86167047~s600x600.jpg

Oh, and while I'm at it....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

JB
04-01-2012, 07:32 PM
We can't have a Romney/Kennedy ticket. Kennedy died.

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 07:37 PM
We can't have a Romney/Kennedy ticket. Kennedy died.

All Kennedy can do is vote now.

Gentleman Pirate
04-01-2012, 07:42 PM
All Kennedy can do is vote now.

Hey-ooooooo

JB
04-01-2012, 07:46 PM
All Kennedy can do is vote now.And aggravate mikey which in turn aggravates CU. Damn, I hate that Kennedy guy. :biggrin-new:

Hawkgirl
04-01-2012, 08:03 PM
:deadhorse:

Might as well going in on the fun....:lol:

AmPat
04-01-2012, 08:26 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/o5wad2.jpg

CLibertarian
04-01-2012, 08:31 PM
All Kennedy can do is vote now.

Especially in Chicago.

Wei Wu Wei
04-01-2012, 09:25 PM
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full/public/AP03050201358.jpg


REALLY??

The right wing can put forth whomever they want and millions of conservatives will flock to the voting booths because the media has done a superb job of convincing them that Obama is the big bad boogyman.

Meanwhile Obama can be a full blown right-winger and a million liberals will flock because they think Republicans are the boogyman

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 09:31 PM
De wight wing can put fowf whomevew they want and miwwions of consewvatives wiww fwock to the voting booths because the media has done a supewb job of convincing them that Obama is the big bad boogyman, uh-hah-hah-hah.

Meanwhiwe Obama can be a fuww bwown wight-wingew and a miwwion wibewaws wiww fwock because they think Wepubwicans awe the boogyman
Thank you Elmer!

Apocalypse
04-01-2012, 09:31 PM
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_full/public/AP03050201358.jpg


REALLY??

Mike, you tell me. And look at the numbers when you do so.



Newt Gingrich 135 Delegates must win less then 80% of the remaining Delegates.
Ron Paul 50 Delegates must win less then 87% of the remaining Delegates.
Mitt Romney 568 Delegates must win less then 46% of the remaining Delegates.
Rick Santorum 273 Delegates must win less then 70% of the remaining Delegates.


Who do you think is going to get the ticket?

How on Earth do you get any one else then Mitt at this stage with near 70% of the CPAC supporting Mitt as well?

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 09:39 PM
Here is Reagan with Tip O'Neil, man how could we have voted for that guy?
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/neill_reagan.jpg
Oh crap! here's another.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/tip.jpg

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 09:42 PM
Oh no, Jesus with Satan, how could we ever worship him?
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/Temptation.jpg

AmPat
04-01-2012, 09:46 PM
The right wing can put forth whomever they want and millions of conservatives will flock to the voting booths because the media has done a superb job of convincing them that Obama is the big bad boogyman.

Meanwhile Obama can be a full blown right-winger and a million liberals will flock because they think Republicans are the boogyman
The only thing missing from your brilliant analysis is the admission that O Blah Blah has proven to be an actual Boogyman whereas your assessment of liberal drones is spot on.

Rockntractor
04-01-2012, 09:51 PM
Santorum with Alien, is this the kind of man we want in the white house?http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/angry/smileys-angry-662871.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/santorum_alienc.jpg

mike128
04-02-2012, 12:16 AM
OK, some of these photos are getting silly. Rick Santorum with an alien? Come on!

I'm really hoping for a brokered Republican convention, at this point. I disagree with those who say a brokered convention would be a disaster for the Republicans, so long as a REAL conservative ends up getting the nomination.

MountainMan
04-02-2012, 12:21 AM
OK, some of these photos are getting silly. Rick Santorum with an alien? Come on!

I'm really hoping for a brokered Republican convention, at this point. I disagree with those who say a brokered convention would be a disaster for the Republicans, so long as a REAL conservative ends up getting the nomination.:rolleyes:

My god you are stupid. Nobody believes you are anything but an Obama worshiping fool at this moment. Just come out and admit you are a DUmmy. That way we can ridicule you out in the open and not just behind closed doors.

Zathras
04-02-2012, 01:24 AM
OK, some of these photos are getting silly. Rick Santorum with an alien? Come on!.

Not as silly as you posting a picture of Romney and Teddy the Drunkard together as if it means something.


I'm really hoping for a brokered Republican convention, at this point. I disagree with those who say a brokered convention would be a disaster for the Republicans, so long as a REAL conservative ends up getting the nomination.

And yet another lie comes from the pie hole of CU's faux conservative troll. The reason why you want a brokered convention is you think it's the best way that your god and savior Obama can win re-election.

txradioguy
04-02-2012, 03:24 AM
Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei

De wight wing can put fowf whomevew they want and miwwions of consewvatives wiww fwock to the voting booths because the media has done a supewb job of convincing them that Obama is the big bad boogyman, uh-hah-hah-hah.

Meanwhiwe Obama can be a fuww bwown wight-wingew and a miwwion wibewaws wiww fwock because they think Wepubwicans awe the boogyman


http://www.moviemobsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/brick_tamland_quot_anchorman_quot.jpg

"I LOVE LAMP!"

mike128
04-02-2012, 06:57 AM
And yet another lie comes from the pie hole of CU's faux conservative troll. The reason why you want a brokered convention is you think it's the best way that your god and savior Obama can win re-election.
YOU'RE the troll, Zathras. You LOVE Liberal Republicans like Meg Whitman and Flip Romney. I think YOU want Obumbler to win! Seriously, Zathras, why don't you go the hell back to the DU, where you came from?? You're not fooling any of us! Romney is a LOSER. he stands for NOTHING! If Romney gets the nomination, the Dummycraps are going to be laughing their asses off at the stupidity of the Republican establishment for forcing a Massachusetts liberal on the rest of us.

'Moderate' Republicans never win, Zathras. When are you going to get that through your thick head??

SarasotaRepub
04-02-2012, 08:30 AM
mike128 is sooooo cute!!! :biggrin-new:

Molon Labe
04-02-2012, 08:53 AM
No, not really. But it looks like it will be a Romney/Obama November election so I have no choice.

And 4 mores years for the Big O.

Good job GOP. Staying true to the principles of walking talking assclown establishment shills for POTUS nominations. Nothing like trying to keep your status in the party safe. I wonder if there will even be a GOP in 2016?


Oh...and people had a choice...but they choose not to get involved early on and let the party pick the man. That's the way she goes I guess.

Odysseus
04-02-2012, 10:25 AM
The right wing can put forth whomever they want and millions of conservatives will flock to the voting booths because the media has done a superb job of convincing them that Obama is the big bad boogyman.

No, Obama's done that all by himself with his policies.


Meanwhile Obama can be a full blown right-winger and a million liberals will flock because they think Republicans are the boogyman

On what planet is Obama a full blown right winger?


Santorum with Alien, is this the kind of man we want in the white house?http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/angry/smileys-angry-662871.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/santorum_alienc.jpg

Hmmm... It depends... What are the alien's positions on national defense, government debt and the Constitution, and which of them will be at the top of the ticket?

AmPat
04-02-2012, 10:39 AM
And 4 mores years for the Big O.

Good job GOP. Staying true to the principles of walking talking assclown establishment shills for POTUS nominations. Nothing like trying to keep your status in the party safe. I wonder if there will even be a GOP in 2016?

Oh...and people had a choice...but they choose not to get involved early on and let the party pick the man. That's the way she goes I guess.
Is this wishful thinking or abject defeatism? The only way the Marxist wins against anything running against him is if stupid defeatists or ideological losers fail to vote AGAINST the Marxist.

The GOP existing in 2016 isn't so much in question for their continued failures in putting forth moderate losers, it is more endangered by an unfettered Marxist running roughshod over Americans, and finishing off what's left of the Constitution.

Molon Labe
04-02-2012, 11:16 AM
Is this wishful thinking or abject defeatism? The only way the Marxist wins against anything running against him is if stupid defeatists or ideological losers fail to vote AGAINST the Marxist.

The GOP existing in 2016 isn't so much in question for their continued failures in putting forth moderate losers, it is more endangered by an unfettered Marxist running roughshod over Americans, and finishing off what's left of the Constitution.

Have you ever even been involved in a GOP meeting lately? It's like they all have Beer goggles on. And they all are as delusional as you are about Obama being the antichrist Marxist and Romney being Savior of Conservatism. Same script in 2004 with Kerry and 2000 with Gore.

Zathras
04-02-2012, 12:37 PM
YOU'RE the troll, Zathras. You LOVE Liberal Republicans like Meg Whitman and Flip Romney. I think YOU want Obumbler to win! Seriously, Zathras, why don't you go the hell back to the DU, where you came from?? You're not fooling any of us! Romney is a LOSER. he stands for NOTHING! If Romney gets the nomination, the Dummycraps are going to be laughing their asses off at the stupidity of the Republican establishment for forcing a Massachusetts liberal on the rest of us.

'Moderate' Republicans never win, Zathras. When are you going to get that through your thick head??

OOOOOh, looks like I hit a nerve, didn't I. You're the one who voiced his support for a liberal moonbat for govenor of California and you have the gall to say I'm the liberal? That alone makes any claim of you being a conservative or determining who is or is not a conservative null and void. As for me going back to DU? It cant happen because I've never been there. Moderate Republicans never win you say? This alone tells me you have absolutely no fucking idea what your talking about and should be ignored. I'd ignore you but when you throw a temper tantrum like a petulant 2 year old it's just too entertaining not to watch, like a wreck at a NASCAR race.

Oh, and before I go, because I know just how much it pisses you off......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg

Gentleman Pirate
04-02-2012, 01:29 PM
:rolleyes:

My god you are stupid. Nobody believes you are anything but an Obama worshiping fool at this moment. Just come out and admit you are a DUmmy. That way we can ridicule you out in the open and not just behind closed doors.

Whatever happened to that smiley blowjob picture you used to use? I always thought that was your way to advertise the services you provide for the gentlemen down south..

When are we getting that beer you owe me?

Generation Why?
04-02-2012, 05:29 PM
It's just a picture. Politicians have photo-ops with members of the other party all the time. Not going to read into it at all. Plus it seems Romney is the best chance to unseat Barry in November.

Apocalypse
04-02-2012, 07:31 PM
OK, some of these photos are getting silly. Rick Santorum with an alien? Come on!

I'm really hoping for a brokered Republican convention, at this point. I disagree with those who say a brokered convention would be a disaster for the Republicans, so long as a REAL conservative ends up getting the nomination.

Mike, a brokered convention will happen at this point, but it is all going to be in Romney's favor. A better part of 70% of them are Romney supporters. Sound already in his corner. He also has almost 50% of the Superdelegates too. Already saying they will vote for Mitt. Have stated so.

The support is just not there.

It would take Newt to drop out now, and throw all his delegates behind Rick and some how convince those Superdelegates to switch and back Rick to win at this point for Rick to pull this off.

Not going to happen.

Rockntractor
04-02-2012, 07:35 PM
Hmmm... It depends... What are the alien's positions on national defense, government debt and the Constitution, and which of them will be at the top of the ticket?

Oh sure, buy their promises, elect Santorum, and they use our brains as a delicacy in various recipes!http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/expressifs/yeux/s10.gif

NJCardFan
04-02-2012, 10:27 PM
'Moderate' Republicans never win, Zathras. When are you going to get that through your thick head??
Um...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Richard_Nixon.jpg/220px-Richard_Nixon.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/George_H._W._Bush,_President_of_the_United_States, _1989_official_portrait.jpg/220px-George_H._W._Bush,_President_of_the_United_States, _1989_official_portrait.jpg http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/jpg/GWB-EP-3E.jpg

Zathras
04-02-2012, 10:45 PM
Is This REALLY What You All Want?

No, what we all want is for you to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO AWAY.

AmPat
04-02-2012, 10:53 PM
No, but this is what we DON'T want:
http://i42.tinypic.com/vne1jb.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2u73vh4.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/ouw8i9.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/15s4rwy.jpg

Zeus
04-02-2012, 11:01 PM
Since when does the GOP have Super Delegates ?

Apocalypse
04-03-2012, 12:06 AM
Since when does the GOP have Super Delegates ?

Their some times referred to as Automatic Delegates.


For Republicans, in 2012, there are potentially 3 superdelegates in each state, consisting of the state chairman and two RNC committee-members. However, certain states either have no superdelegates or have them but their votes are bound by the results of the state vote. In 2012, there are 126 Republican superdelegates.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/Dispel_Illusions/s1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/Dispel_Illusions/s2.jpg

rjas77
04-03-2012, 09:10 PM
Here's DUmbass128's dream ticket

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.363610!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

marinejcksn
04-03-2012, 09:31 PM
I've sadly realized that the Election 2012 really comes down to Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich. AGAIN. :evil-grin:

http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/touche.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGFrvevXHM

Kay
04-03-2012, 10:11 PM
And 4 mores years for the Big O.

Good job GOP. Staying true to the principles of walking talking assclown establishment shills for POTUS nominations. Nothing like trying to keep your status in the party safe. I wonder if there will even be a GOP in 2016?


Oh...and people had a choice...but they choose not to get involved early on and let the party pick the man. That's the way she goes I guess.

You are wrong.


Have you ever even been involved in a GOP meeting lately? It's like they all have Beer goggles on. And they all are as delusional as you are about Obama being the antichrist Marxist and Romney being Savior of Conservatism. Same script in 2004 with Kerry and 2000 with Gore.

And you are wrong.

Mitt had a clean sweep tonight.
And he is going to win in November.
So let it be written. So let it be done.

mike128
04-04-2012, 04:02 AM
Um...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Richard_Nixon.jpg/220px-Richard_Nixon.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/George_H._W._Bush,_President_of_the_United_States, _1989_official_portrait.jpg/220px-George_H._W._Bush,_President_of_the_United_States, _1989_official_portrait.jpg http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/jpg/GWB-EP-3E.jpg
Stop it, NJCardFan. As I have said before, Bush 43 won because he ran as a conservative. I, myself, got suckered into voting for Bush 43, because I was so sick and tired of 8 years of Slick Willie's BS, that I wanted the Clinton crowd out. Al Gore represented the continuation of that. But as we all know, Bush 43 ended up governing as a liberal. We got scammed in that election. That's why Bush 43 won.

Bush 41 only won in 1988 because he rode Reagan's coattails. And Patrick J. Buchanan publicly endorsed him back in 1992, and so did Reagan. So I got suckered, once again, and voted for Bush 41 back in 1992. Bush 41 ended up appointing David Souter to the SC, for crying out loud! But he LOST to Slick Willie back in 1992.

I was far too young to vote for Nixon, back in 1972. He turned out to be a "moderate", I agree. But I do not know enough info to say for sure why he won back then.

And now we have Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flop Romney, who has already been proven to take every side of every issue, just to win. And quite obviously, with most of you on this forum, he is succeeding! Romney has been winning Republican primaries because of MONEY. But this strategy will fail in the general election, since Obumbler will likely raise over 1 Billion dollars (yes, that's Billion, with a "B"). So, money won't matter in the general, and Romney will LOSE, since conservatives won't show up.

It's just not going to fly, folks.

AmPat
04-04-2012, 05:37 AM
Here's DUmbass128's dream ticket

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.363610!/img/httpImage/image.jpg
Hey lookie! You found a picture of a communist, the other guy is Chavez, right?

MountainMan
04-04-2012, 09:31 AM
Stop it, NJCardFan. As I have said before, Bush 43 won because he ran as a conservative. I, myself, got suckered into voting for Bush 43, because I was so sick and tired of 8 years of Slick Willie's BS, that I wanted the Clinton crowd out. Al Gore represented the continuation of that. But as we all know, Bush 43 ended up governing as a liberal. We got scammed in that election. That's why Bush 43 won.

Bush 41 only won in 1988 because he rode Reagan's coattails. And Patrick J. Buchanan publicly endorsed him back in 1992, and so did Reagan. So I got suckered, once again, and voted for Bush 41 back in 1992. Bush 41 ended up appointing David Souter to the SC, for crying out loud! But he LOST to Slick Willie back in 1992.

I was far too young to vote for Nixon, back in 1972. He turned out to be a "moderate", I agree. But I do not know enough info to say for sure why he won back then.

And now we have Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flop Romney, who has already been proven to take every side of every issue, just to win. And quite obviously, with most of you on this forum, he is succeeding! Romney has been winning Republican primaries because of MONEY. But this strategy will fail in the general election, since Obumbler will likely raise over 1 Billion dollars (yes, that's Billion, with a "B"). So, money won't matter in the general, and Romney will LOSE, since conservatives won't show up.

It's just not going to fly, folks.

Just keep saying this stupidity Mike0134701470174. Maybe one day you may actually believe it. :rolleyes:

Odysseus
04-04-2012, 09:41 AM
Stop it, NJCardFan. As I have said before, Bush 43 won because he ran as a conservative. I, myself, got suckered into voting for Bush 43, because I was so sick and tired of 8 years of Slick Willie's BS, that I wanted the Clinton crowd out. Al Gore represented the continuation of that. But as we all know, Bush 43 ended up governing as a liberal. We got scammed in that election. That's why Bush 43 won.

Bush 41 only won in 1988 because he rode Reagan's coattails. And Patrick J. Buchanan publicly endorsed him back in 1992, and so did Reagan. So I got suckered, once again, and voted for Bush 41 back in 1992. Bush 41 ended up appointing David Souter to the SC, for crying out loud! But he LOST to Slick Willie back in 1992.

I was far too young to vote for Nixon, back in 1972. He turned out to be a "moderate", I agree. But I do not know enough info to say for sure why he won back then.

And now we have Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flop Romney, who has already been proven to take every side of every issue, just to win. And quite obviously, with most of you on this forum, he is succeeding! Romney has been winning Republican primaries because of MONEY. But this strategy will fail in the general election, since Obumbler will likely raise over 1 Billion dollars (yes, that's Billion, with a "B"). So, money won't matter in the general, and Romney will LOSE, since conservatives won't show up.

It's just not going to fly, folks.

The choices are either Romney or Obama. Adults deal with the choices that they are given. Be an adult and stop whining.

Zathras
04-04-2012, 12:57 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v-cbUrK3vwQ/Ta-yBYdpI_I/AAAAAAAAAWI/eeFt-CjCN68/s1600/CRYBABY+TELLING+THE+TRUTH.jpg

Fixed for accuracy.

Suck it up boy and deal with it. All your child like temper tantrums will not change the fact that the person opposing Obama this time is going to be Romney. Now, you can either vote for Romney or vote for Obama by either not voting at all or voting for a third party...or do what you REALLY want to do and go ahead and vote for the candidate you truly want as president, Obama.

Gentleman Pirate
04-04-2012, 01:01 PM
I've sadly realized that the Election 2012 really comes down to Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich. AGAIN. :evil-grin:

http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/touche.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGFrvevXHM

Quoted for truth.. I wish the GOP would have put up a stronger candidate or a stronger candidate that didn't refuse to run (I'm looking at you Chris Christie)

Molon Labe
04-04-2012, 02:25 PM
The choices are either Romney or Obama. Adults deal with the choices that they are given. Be an adult and stop whining.


Another Adult "choice" is to vote for neither the stupid candidate or evil candidate. Or as someone more eloquent than I said. Turd sandwhich and Douche candidate.

I'm not saying I will refrain from doing so, but I always have that option.

Odysseus
04-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Another Adult "choice" is to vote for neither the stupid candidate or evil candidate. Or as someone more eloquent than I said. Turd sandwhich and Douche candidate.

I'm not saying I will refrain from doing so, but I always have that option.

Then you end up throwing your vote away. If you're going to flush it anyway, you might as well vote for the douche.

NJCardFan
04-04-2012, 06:51 PM
Stop it, NJCardFan. As I have said before, Bush 43 won because he ran as a conservative. I, myself, got suckered into voting for Bush 43, because I was so sick and tired of 8 years of Slick Willie's BS, that I wanted the Clinton crowd out. Al Gore represented the continuation of that. But as we all know, Bush 43 ended up governing as a liberal. We got scammed in that election. That's why Bush 43 won.

Bush 41 only won in 1988 because he rode Reagan's coattails. And Patrick J. Buchanan publicly endorsed him back in 1992, and so did Reagan. So I got suckered, once again, and voted for Bush 41 back in 1992. Bush 41 ended up appointing David Souter to the SC, for crying out loud! But he LOST to Slick Willie back in 1992.

I was far too young to vote for Nixon, back in 1972. He turned out to be a "moderate", I agree. But I do not know enough info to say for sure why he won back then.

And now we have Massachusetts Liberal Flip-Flop Romney, who has already been proven to take every side of every issue, just to win. And quite obviously, with most of you on this forum, he is succeeding! Romney has been winning Republican primaries because of MONEY. But this strategy will fail in the general election, since Obumbler will likely raise over 1 Billion dollars (yes, that's Billion, with a "B"). So, money won't matter in the general, and Romney will LOSE, since conservatives won't show up.

It's just not going to fly, folks.

What would you rather have, a candidate campaigning as a conservative only to find out later than he was a wolf in sheeps clothing or for a guy you know going in is more of a moderate? Seems to me you'd rather have Obama.

Zathras
04-04-2012, 07:38 PM
What would you rather have, a candidate campaigning as a conservative only to find out later than he was a wolf in sheeps clothing or for a guy you know going in is more of a moderate? Seems to me you'd rather have Obama.

That's exactly what he wants, a second term for Obama.

Molon Labe
04-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Then you end up throwing your vote away. If you're going to flush it anyway, you might as well vote for the douche.

No...you mean the Turd sandwhich.


BTW...that bullshit about throwing your vote away if you don't is just that. B.S.


"I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."- George Carlin

marinejcksn
04-04-2012, 09:02 PM
Quoted for truth.. I wish the GOP would have put up a stronger candidate or a stronger candidate that didn't refuse to run (I'm looking at you Chris Christie)

About Christie's refusal to run....I'd highly doubt the man has run in the last 25 years :biggrin-new:

Sadly though, the more Christie comes into the light...the more it turns out he's another Neocon in the realm of Bush. If 2016 is the year I'm praying for a West/Santinez or Demint/Paul ticket. Two true Conservatives, both top and bottom(although Sanchez is only slightly solid, but better than most). No more moderates...McCain should've been a lesson for all ages.

mike128
04-05-2012, 03:38 AM
All I know is I'm voting for Rick Santorum on June 5th. I already know that our flip-flopping Etch A Sketch 'frontrunner' is going to take my state, but I don't care. I'm still voting for Rick on June 5th.

It is looking more likely that I will be sitting out the general election on November 6th.

Zathras
04-05-2012, 03:47 AM
All I know is I'm voting for Rick Santorum on June 5th. I already know that our flip-flopping Etch A Sketch 'frontrunner' is going to take my state, but I don't care. I'm still voting for Rick on June 5th.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/HeroesAtWork/deadhorse.jpg


It is looking more likely that I will be voting Obama in the general election on November 6th.

Fixed for accuracy since that's what you're doing refusing to vote with your temper tantrum. In other words you want to see the more liberal candidate win. So much for you being a conservative. But, then again, we already knew that your conservatism was a lie when you declared your support for Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown for govenor of California.

mike128
04-05-2012, 05:08 AM
How's that love affair with Meg Whitman going, Zathras? Any abortions yet?? Maybe you and your lover, Meg can sell the aborted baby to a lab for "research purposes". :friendly_wink:

Odysseus
04-05-2012, 09:24 AM
No...you mean the Turd sandwhich.
BTW...that bullshit about throwing your vote away if you don't is just that. B.S.

George Carlin? Really?

Stand up comedy is all well and good, but it isn't political science. If you vote for a third party, then, yes, you are guaranteeing yourself the right to whine with a clear conscience when nobody that you voted for gets into office, or even has a chance of getting in, but you are also ensuring that the person or party that you oppose the most has one less vote to counter, and if you are successful, by third party standards, then you siphon off enough votes from the lesser of the two evils to guarantee that the worst of the choices gets in. In other words, you help to guarantee the reelection of Obama. Carlin may joke about being free to whine about the failures of our government, but I prefer to try to staunch the tide of failure to the greatest extent possible.


How's that love affair with Meg Whitman going, Zathras? Any abortions yet?? Maybe you and your lover, Meg can sell the aborted baby to a lab for "research purposes". :friendly_wink:

You are a complete idiot. Whitman lost, and Governor Moonbeam is taking California on a one-way trip down the toilet, thanks to you and idiots like you.

Okay, it's time for a lecture. You won't want to hear it, but since you keep repeating drivel that nobody here wants to hear, turnabout is fair play.

Politics is corrupt. The more that politics pervades our lives, the more pervasive the corruThe goal of any just political system is to reduce the amount of politics in the daily lives of people, so that they can go about their business without having to grease palms, pay off politicians or otherwise waste their time and money on the power struggles of our Metternich-wannabes.

Because politics is corrupt, it attracts corrupt people. We haven't had a George Washington or James Madison since the founding, and I suspect that at the time, there were those who had less than flattering things to say about them. Every once in a while, we get a Ronald Reagan or a Calvin Coolidge, but they are few and far between. The rest of the time, the choice is between evil and stupid, if you're lucky. And if you decide that you're too pure for politics, then you cede the field to the evil.

Right now, we face a crisis. The sovereign debt of the United States exceeds our GDP for the first time since WWII, but instead of paying for Sherman tanks, P-51 Mustangs and the rest of the arsenal of democracy, we're blowing it on entitlements that are spiraling out of control, and which further corrupt us as a nation. We are at a tipping point, and if we go over, then America is finished. It may take a while, but Rome didn't collapse during the reign of Caligula or Nero, it took centuries. The United States will limp onwards, slowly sloughing off the things that made us great, until the new visigoths show up at the White House and demand SSI payments, and then sack the city when they realize that we're broke. We're on the verge of a long, hard slide into irrelevance, poverty and societal collapse, and you are arguing about how you're too good to vote for somebody who, while not perfect, or even good, is better than the wrecking ball that currently occupies the White House.

Spare me your posturing BS and grow up.

Zathras
04-05-2012, 12:12 PM
How's that love affair with Meg Whitman going, Zathras? Any abortions yet?? Maybe you and your lover, Meg can sell the aborted baby to a lab for "research purposes". :friendly_wink:

Ah, this tired insult again? Hey, I wish I was dayting Meg Whitman but, alas, I'm not that lucky. You on the other hand....how's that love affair with Jerry Brown going? Enjoying the tax increases that he want to impose on the citizens of California? That's a very liberal thing to do but, then again, since you supported him for the election you must be for them. Hey, abortions are still going on here as well. I guess that's ok with you as well since you supported him instead of the more conservative candidate. You really sure you're a conservative? Your postings here make any claim for you being a conservative an out and out lie.

Oh, and if Darrell Issa does run for govenor here in California and win, abortions will still be going on as they are not the big issue that you think they are here in California. But, then again, if you lived here you would know this.

The only person you're fooling with this calling yourself a conservative is the one in the mirror.

Oh, and one more thing before I go....

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Zeus
04-05-2012, 12:46 PM
George Carlin? Really?

Stand up comedy is all well and good, but it isn't political science. If you vote for a third party, then, yes, youare guaranteeing yourself the right to whine with a clear conscience when nobody that you voted for gets into office, or even has a chance of getting in, but you are also ensuring that the person or party that you oppose the most has one less vote to counter, and if you are successful, by third party standards, then you siphon off enough votes from the lesser of the two evils to guarantee that the worst of the choices gets in. In other words, you help to guarantee the reelection of Obama. Carlin may joke about being free to whine about the failures of our government, but I prefer to try to staunch the tide of failure to the greatest extent possible.


A third party vote also helps in that that party may hit the magical number to ensure Federal dollars to the party for their next candidates go at the throne. One of the main things third party supporters piss and whine about when it is they who abandon their candidate at the ballot box because "They can't win". By rights the Libertarian party should have displaced the Democrat party by now in the so called "Two party system" .

Odysseus
04-05-2012, 12:59 PM
A third party vote also helps in that that party may hit the magical number to ensure Federal dollars to the party for their next candidates go at the throne. One of the main things third party supporters piss and whine about when it is they who abandon their candidate at the ballot box because "They can't win". By rights the Libertarian party should have displaced the Democrat party by now in the so called "Two party system" .

Except that the Democrats like their party the way that it is. It provides them with big government. The Libertarians are far more likely to replace the Republican Party, but only if they can make peace with social conservatives. The last time that happened, it was called the Reagan coalition. This takes me back to my original argument, which is that the ideal Republican candidate is one that can make the moral case for fiscal responsibility, not just the fiscal case. That's why I favored Newt, but he's got about as much chance as a pork salesman in Saudi Arabia. Santorum is basically a moral scold who has never been that fiscally responsible, and Romney has been the classic liberal Republican governor of a liberal state. We're going to end up with a choice between Romney or Obama. Anything else is masturbatory fantasizing.

Zeus
04-05-2012, 01:13 PM
Except that the Democrats like their party the way that it is. It provides them with big government. The Libertarians are far more likely to replace the Republican Party, but only if they can make peace with social conservatives. The last time that happened, it was called the Reagan coalition. This takes me back to my original argument, which is that the ideal Republican candidate is one that can make the moral case for fiscal responsibility, not just the fiscal case. That's why I favored Newt, but he's got about as much chance as a pork salesman in Saudi Arabia. Santorum is basically a moral scold who has never been that fiscally responsible, and Romney has been the classic liberal Republican governor of a liberal state. We're going to end up with a choice between Romney or Obama. Anything else is masturbatory fantasizing.

As stated elsewhere on the boards Romney actually accomplished a couple quite conservatives things while gov in a overwhelmingly liberal state. It should not come as a surprise that a republican Gov of a liberal state may come off as a liberal because of what they did or didn't do as Gov. A certain amount of cooperation with the opposition to blunt Liberalism is better than to let it run ramshode throughout the state and/or country at large. The legislation body has a lot to do/say how the executive body governs.

Molon Labe
04-05-2012, 02:25 PM
George Carlin? Really?

Doesn't matter who said it if its the truth. Try to concentrate on what truth is instead of getting lost in the messenger. Authority is not truth. Truth is the authority.

Gentleman Pirate
04-05-2012, 02:36 PM
Ah, this tired insult again? Hey, I wish I was dayting Meg Whitman but, alas, I'm not that lucky..


Uhhhh... Really? Yuck...


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Odysseus
04-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Doesn't matter who said it if its the truth. Try to concentrate on what truth is instead of getting lost in the messenger. Authority is not truth. Truth is the authority.

Did you read my entire comment, or did your eyes glaze over after the first sentence? I addressed the "truth" of that statement, which is that not voting doesn't give you any moral superiority. Here it is again, just so you don't miss it.


Stand up comedy is all well and good, but it isn't political science. If you vote for a third party, then, yes, you are guaranteeing yourself the right to whine with a clear conscience when nobody that you voted for gets into office, or even has a chance of getting in, but you are also ensuring that the person or party that you oppose the most has one less vote to counter, and if you are successful, by third party standards, then you siphon off enough votes from the lesser of the two evils to guarantee that the worst of the choices gets in. In other words, you help to guarantee the reelection of Obama. Carlin may joke about being free to whine about the failures of our government, but I prefer to try to staunch the tide of failure to the greatest extent possible.

That's the truth.


As stated elsewhere on the boards Romney actually accomplished a couple quite conservatives things while gov in a overwhelmingly liberal state. It should not come as a surprise that a republican Gov of a liberal state may come off as a liberal because of what they did or didn't do as Gov. A certain amount of cooperation with the opposition to blunt Liberalism is better than to let it run ramshode throughout the state and/or country at large. The legislation body has a lot to do/say how the executive body governs.

Yes, and a core of conservatives in the house and a Republican takeover of the senate will mitigate a lot of his more liberal instincts. Romney is far from perfect, but he's the better of the two choices that we face in November, and anyone who can't see that is delusional.

Rockntractor
04-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Uhhhh... Really? Yuck...


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At least she was born a female!http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/disdain/disdain017.gif (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies)

Zathras
04-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Uhhhh... Really? Yuck...


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Yeah...with the money she has I could live the life I want and never have to worry about money ever again.

And it's a lot better than the person DUmbass128 has the hots for....

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Zathras
04-05-2012, 05:25 PM
Yes, and a core of conservatives in the house and a Republican takeover of the senate will mitigate a lot of his more liberal instincts. Romney is far from perfect, but he's the better of the two choices that we face in November, and anyone who can't see that is delusional.

That explains why DUmbass128 is the way he is....either that or he's a democrat afraid for his fearless leader's future in the White House.

Wei Wu Wei
04-05-2012, 05:26 PM
No, but this is what we DON'T want:
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If Obama is a socialists, why are socialists constantly criticizing him and not voting for him?

Spoiler alert:


He's nothing of a socialist, not even close,.

Wei Wu Wei
04-05-2012, 05:38 PM
The choices are either Romney or Obama. Adults deal with the choices that they are given. Be an adult and stop whining.

There is also the choice to not support either of them.

I can't stomach the idea of voting for Obama or Romney so neither of them will get my vote or support. I will not be coerced into supporting something I disagree with because of fear. If the power structure wants to force a false choice upon me, well they have the power to do that, but I will not dignify or validate their empty gesture.

Rockntractor
04-05-2012, 05:43 PM
There is also the choice to not support either of them.

I can't stomach the idea of voting for Obama or Romney so neither of them will get my vote or support. I will not be coerced into supporting something I disagree with because of fear. If the power structure wants to force a false choice upon me, well they have the power to do that, but I will not dignify or validate their empty gesture.

Good for you, I hope all progressives get stoned and don't vote!

txradioguy
04-06-2012, 05:27 AM
Good for you, I hope all progressives get stoned and don't vote!

Libs like Wee Wee need to vote the first Wednesday of November.

The rest of us can vote the first Tuesday.

Odysseus
04-06-2012, 12:17 PM
If Obama is a socialists, why are socialists constantly criticizing him and not voting for him?

Spoiler alert:


He's nothing of a socialist, not even close,.

Wanna bet? The CPUSA endorsed him, and even ran an article against being overly critical of him:


...The CPUSA has pushed the vote for Democratic candidates, not because we have the illusion that they will bring us socialism, nor because we have actually given up on socialism, but because socialism is not an immediately achievable goal and voting for the Democrats is likely to produce a better situation from which to push the struggle forward, eventually putting socialism on the agenda.
http://www.cpusa.org/convention-discussion-on-criticizing-obama/

And, of course, they endorsed his reelection. Obama paves the way to socialism, according to those who think that this is a good idea.


There is also the choice to not support either of them.

I can't stomach the idea of voting for Obama or Romney so neither of them will get my vote or support. I will not be coerced into supporting something I disagree with because of fear. If the power structure wants to force a false choice upon me, well they have the power to do that, but I will not dignify or validate their empty gesture.

Good. Stay home and avoid voting.

Janice
04-06-2012, 12:50 PM
There is also the choice to not support either of them.

I can't stomach the idea of voting for Obama or Romney so neither of them will get my vote or support.

Wei Wu Wei and mike128 are now officially on the same page?

Who knew?

Odysseus
04-06-2012, 06:10 PM
Wei Wu Wei and mike128 are now officially on the same page?

Who knew?

Pretty much everybody.

m00
04-06-2012, 08:32 PM
Good for you, I hope all progressives get stoned and don't vote!

Really? Then why do I keep hearing on this board that not voting is a vote for Obama. :cool:

Rockntractor
04-06-2012, 09:04 PM
Really? Then why do I keep hearing on this board that not voting is a vote for Obama. :cool:

He is a liberal and wouldn't be voting for a Republican.

Rockntractor
04-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Wei Wu Wei and mike128 are now officially on the same page?

Who knew?

And m00 is looking for the book.

Retread
04-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Really? Then why do I keep hearing on this board that not voting is a vote for Obama. :cool:

Because you have selective hearing…..

m00
04-07-2012, 01:19 PM
He is a liberal and wouldn't be voting for a Republican.

The premise only holds up if one believes a given political party is "owed" a person's vote. As in, someone is a conservative so Republicans are owed his vote... so voting 3rd party is a vote for Democrats. But if someone is a liberal than Democrats are owed his vote, so if he votes for exactly the same 3rd party as the conservative in the previous sentence, this time it's a vote for Republicans.

I find this whole concept to be offensive, because it's an entitlement argument. The given party is entitled to your vote. Entitlement of any sort just happens to really offend me on some basic level.

Retread
04-07-2012, 06:49 PM
It's called voting for someone who can win rather than tossing your vote into the brush by not voting or voting 3rd party - but you know that and just want to get in your jabs. Guess what? You're a flyweight in a heavyweight division and going nowhere.

Odysseus
04-07-2012, 07:06 PM
The premise only holds up if one believes a given political party is "owed" a person's vote. As in, someone is a conservative so Republicans are owed his vote... so voting 3rd party is a vote for Democrats. But if someone is a liberal than Democrats are owed his vote, so if he votes for exactly the same 3rd party as the conservative in the previous sentence, this time it's a vote for Republicans.

I find this whole concept to be offensive, because it's an entitlement argument. The given party is entitled to your vote. Entitlement of any sort just happens to really offend me on some basic level.

Nope. Nobody is claiming that the Republican Party is entitled to anything. The question isn't whether you owe your vote to the Republicans, it's whether you will accept four more years of Obama or not. If you are too pure to vote for a Republican who, by any measure, will not be as bad, then you cede the field to Obama. All things being equal, I'd prefer Newt, and Santorum is leaving me increasingly unimpressed, but given the circumstances, I'm going to vote for anybody with an R after his name in November, because while I don't owe anybody my vote, but I owe my children a future that Obama is going to obliterate.