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RedGrouse
04-02-2012, 06:01 PM
This is not from DU, but full of stupidity.


dalandzadgad */ 4 Sep, 2007 at 10:57 pm

the introduction is saddening part..

and where is Dick Cheney?
Dick Cheney didn't kill anyone.


Eric Li */ 8 Jun, 2011 at 11:21 pm

What the *****? Mao didn’t kill no one. And most of china supported Mao. Why do you think they won over the Taiwainese Gov. with a boat and some bullets. You need to do some research. Mao did a wonderful job. Although some of his decisions like being communist sounds bad, it had to be that way in the beginning with a billion people population. Think about it! Research. Do it!
Mao killed many people. So stupid and ignorant.


wung97 */ 2 Jan, 2012 at 03:12 am

Mao did not kill anyone, what you are believing is either American propaganda or rebellion countries against Communist China.
Being spoonfed by Communist propaganda. Keep deluding yourself.


Walton Wung */ 30 Jan, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Bull***** my boy. I even went to China myself for a vacation and asked at least a couple of hundreds of people of what they think of Mao Zedong for my own personal curiosity. I’m estimating that at least 92% said he promoted equality among others. The rest of the 8% said he was a bad leader, because they said everybody get’s the same payment even though others work harder. None stated that he was a population murderer. I’m pretty sure that what you’re hearing about the “Great Leap Forward” and all that crap is really American and foreign propaganda.
Only in your delusional world.


chroma */ 8 Mar, 2012 at 12:39 pm

Get your facts right.. Mao didnt intentionally kill people.. but his policies of collectivisation and communism wiped out 20+millions of people from different parts of china… Recently Communist party of china released a press report that his policies were stupid…
How about Holdomor in Ukraine? That was intentional, no? Famine is a weapon.

Wung97 strikes again. He is so delusional and clueless.

wung97 */ 27 Mar, 2012 at 09:08 pm

BS Mao boosted the Chinese population by 750-900 million people. You believe in American and foreign propaganda, yet you don’t have the sense to be skeptical about it. I actually went to China myself for a vacation and asked the people in China what their daily lifestyle was like under Mao’s rule. All replied that he was the greatest prime minister and that they all had a regular lifestyle(Wake up, work, eat, sleep, etc.) You don’t have to believe me, go to China yourself and write a report of what the citizens think under Mao’s rule. Regarding your opinion in present, you would be surprised by the results of the Chinese citizens.


YahooSerious */ 17 Oct, 2010 at 08:20 am

I am one of the biggest Bush-bashers i know, but at least I base my bashing in fact and truth. His administration sucked balls bigtime, there's enough material to use against America for the next 5 presidents. Perhaps he'd be #11.
Angry about Bush still. Bitter are we?

http://listverse.com/2007/09/05/top-10-most-evil-men/

Dan D. Doty
04-02-2012, 06:19 PM
Once again another Moonbat admires a tyrant, go figure :rolleyes:

AmPat
04-02-2012, 11:51 PM
He's a lying sack of crap, but then again, I could have just said he's a liberal. Nobody is going into China and "Asking a couple hundred Chinese their opinion of Mao." Just another lying liberal making up his "facts" to support his idiocy.

NJCardFan
04-03-2012, 12:13 AM
He's a lying sack of crap, but then again, I could have just said he's a liberal. Nobody is going into China and "Asking a couple hundred Chinese their opinion of Mao." Just another lying liberal making up his "facts" to support his idiocy.

And as if those 92% felt safe enough to give their real opinions. It's like that scene in Airplane 2 when the Russian news reporter was giving the news with a gun to his head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udk1B0iSCk

Same is probably true in China. If you publicly spoke out against Mao, something tells me that this might be your new address:
http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11531&d=1258078592

Arroyo_Doble
04-03-2012, 10:18 AM
That was weird. It said Top 10 Most Evil Men and the first picture was an ad for Romney.

Edit: Not an ad for Romney just a picture of Romney with a poll question.

Odysseus
04-03-2012, 10:30 AM
These are all pretty nasty characters, with one exception (see below), but I can think of a few worse people.


10. Attila The Hun
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/atilla-tm.jpg?w=229&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/atilla.jpeg)

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/robespierre-tm.jpg?w=244&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/robespierre.gif)


8. Ruhollah Khomeini
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/khomeini-78-tm.jpg?w=231&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/khomeini-78.jpg)


7. Idi Amin Dada
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/amin-1809-narrowweb-300x4230-tm.jpg?w=212&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/amin-1809-narrowweb-300x4230.jpg)

6. Leopold II of Belgium
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/leopoldii-tm.jpg?w=238&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/leopoldii.gif)

5. Pol Pot
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/polpot-vzoom-tm.jpg?w=214&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/polpot-vzoom.jpg)

4. Vlad Ţepeş
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/vlad02-tm.jpg?w=253&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/vlad02.jpg)

3. Ivan IV of Russia
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ivan-the-terrible-2-sized-tm.jpg?w=214&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ivan-the-terrible-2-sized.jpg)

2. Adolf Hitler
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/adolfhitler-tm.jpg?w=204&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/adolfhitler.jpg)

1. Josef Stalin
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/joseph-stalin-tm.jpg?w=219&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/joseph-stalin.jpg)

Bonus: Emperor Hirohito of Japan
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/hirohito-tm.jpg?w=192&h=300 (http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/hirohito.jpg)



Hirohito was a figurehead. It was Hideki Tojo, the Japanese Prime Minister, who set policy during the war years, and he was certainly as evil as anyone on the list. But there are a number of figures who belong in the top ten. Mohammed, for example, or several of his Caliphs (Umar was a particularly nasty piece of work). Tamerlane was another truly evil man, as was Caligula. Mao, in addition to mass murder, was also a serial rapist, according to his biographies (he kept a harem), which is a distinction that also applies to Mohammed. The Turkish Committee of Union and Progress, led by İsmail Enver, Talat Paşa and Cemal Paşa, were the architects of the Armenian Genocide. They all belong on this list.

Arroyo_Doble
04-03-2012, 10:42 AM
But there are a number of figures who belong in the top ten. Mohammed, for example, or several of his Caliphs (Umar was a particularly nasty piece of work).

Religious figures are a dicey proposition. Religious slaughter is easy to find.

noonwitch
04-03-2012, 10:56 AM
Stalin is probably the worst-he killed so many because he had a long rule. If Hitler had had as much time to kill people, he would have matched him or more.



It's difficult to come up with a figure for Mao's crimes, since China was very closed to the West until after Mao's death. Just because he looked a little like the images of Buddha doesn't mean he was some kind of nice guy, like Buddha.

NJCardFan
04-03-2012, 11:48 AM
The inclusion of Hitler but the omission of Tojo is an interesting one. Hitler's Reich systematically killed 6 million + Jews during WWII. However some estimates have Tojo's Imperial Army killing upwards of 20 million Asian civilians(Chinese, Koreans, Filipinos, etc) and yet they don't get nearly the historical backlash that the Germans get. The 6 week Nanking Massacre saw the death of nearly 300,000 Chinese civilians. Vlad Tepes, on the other hand, seems to be getting a raw deal. He didn't commit wholesale genocide like some on this list. He's no angel for sure but he certainly isn't anywhere near as vicious as Mao or Stalin.

Odysseus
04-03-2012, 12:13 PM
Religious figures are a dicey proposition. Religious slaughter is easy to find.

Yes, but Mohammed created a religion in order to justify his political slaughter.

Arroyo_Doble
04-03-2012, 12:25 PM
Yes, but Mohammed created a religion in order to justify his political slaughter.

I believe most of the Old Testament law came after Moses' massacre in Exodus 32.

Odysseus
04-03-2012, 02:59 PM
I believe most of the Old Testament law came after Moses' massacre in Exodus 32.

What massacre would that be?


31 So Moses went back to the LORD and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.

32 But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”

33 The LORD replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.

34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.”

35 And the LORD struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

Moses asks for forgiveness for the sinners and begs God to put him in among those who are too be judged. It's God who sends a plague.

Arroyo_Doble
04-03-2012, 03:40 PM
What massacre would that be?


31 So Moses went back to the LORD and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.

32 But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”

33 The LORD replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.

34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.”

35 And the LORD struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

Moses asks for forgiveness for the sinners and begs God to put him in among those who are too be judged. It's God who sends a plague.


Prior to that.



27 Then he said to them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’”

28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.

Bailey
04-03-2012, 03:43 PM
Religious figures are a dicey proposition. Religious slaughter is easy to find.

Can you name all of the slaughters Jesus led? Didnt think so.

Rebel Yell
04-03-2012, 04:16 PM
He's a lying sack of crap, but then again, I could have just said he's a liberal. Nobody is going into China and "Asking a couple hundred Chinese their opinion of Mao." Just another lying liberal making up his "facts" to support his idiocy.

You need to get your facts straight, buddy. He didn't say he aked a couple hundred people. He said a couple of hundreds of people.

Elspeth
04-03-2012, 05:51 PM
Yes, but Mohammed created a religion in order to justify his political slaughter.

Do you have a good history on this?

Thanks.

Odysseus
04-03-2012, 08:07 PM
Prior to that.



27 Then he said to them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’”

28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.

You missed a bit. Here is the whole passage:


19 When Moses approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, his anger burned and he threw the tablets out of his hands, breaking them to pieces at the foot of the mountain.

20 And he took the calf the people had made and burned it in the fire; then he ground it to powder, scattered it on the water and made the Israelites drink it.

21 He said to Aaron, “What did these people do to you, that you led them into such great sin?”

22 “Do not be angry, my lord,” Aaron answered. “You know how prone these people are to evil.

23 They said to me, ‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’

24 So I told them, ‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”

25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies.

26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the LORD, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him.

27 Then he said to them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’”

28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.

29 Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.”

30 The next day Moses said to the people, “You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the LORD; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”

Moses was putting down a rebellion. It wasn't simply an indiscriminate slaughter. That doesn't compare with Mohammed's reign of terror against the people of Medina and Mecca.

NJCardFan
04-03-2012, 09:24 PM
You missed a bit. Here is the whole passage:

<snip>

I made this point in another thread. Liberals like to cherry pick what they want from the Bible then twist that to their own ends. They like to do this wit the Constitution as well. They cherry pick what they want but ignore the entire Amendment or passage. Bravo for exposing yo yo on this.

Arroyo_Doble
04-04-2012, 08:07 AM
You missed a bit. Here is the whole passage:

I have read the whole book a couple of times.


Moses was putting down a rebellion. It wasn't simply an indiscriminate slaughter. That doesn't compare with Mohammed's reign of terror against the people of Medina and Mecca.

I was not comparing it (I have not read the Koran so I will take you word for it for now) and I am sure it is easy to rationalize actions taken by religious leaders you approve of (I haven't even gotten into other violent actions taken). Even so, putting down a rebellion is a political act.