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SarasotaRepub
04-09-2012, 12:01 PM
Breaking on CNN...

Bailey
04-09-2012, 12:03 PM
(Heads to DU to see the head explosions)

Hawkgirl
04-09-2012, 12:12 PM
I'm sure another special prosecutor will be appointed soon.:rolleyes:

newshutr
04-09-2012, 12:19 PM
Have the riots started yet?

Odysseus
04-09-2012, 12:20 PM
I'm sure another special prosecutor will be appointed soon.:rolleyes:

Or the feds could file charges, although that would be a stretch, as they'd have to prove that Zimmerman acted with the intent to deny Martin his civil rights.

And, of course, if Eric Holder prosecutes a Latino for defending himself, what might that do to Obama's percentage of Latino voters?

On edit:


Trayvon Martin case: Special prosecutor will not call grand jury
Can file charges against George Zimmerman herself or drop the case
Comments (16)

By Christina Boyle / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, April 9, 2012, 12:07 PM

The special prosecutor in Florida has decided not to convene a grand jury in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

The special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case will not convene a grand jury to weigh possible charges against gunman George Zimmerman.

Officials did not give an explanation for the decision and said the investigation into the racially charged shooting is continuing.

The special prosecutor, Angela Corey, does not need a grand jury to take action — she can file charges herself or drop the case.

Zimmerman, a night watch volunteer, claims he was acting in self-defense when he gunned down the 17-year-old in late February.

The 28-year-old Hispanic man was released without charge after the shooting, which has sparked national debate about gun violence, race relations and Florida's Stand Your Ground law.

The controversial law allows residents to use deadly force if they feel there is a reasonable threat of death or serious injury.

Many observers expected a grand jury would be convened Tuesday.

Spectators were being encouraged to show up at Seminole County Courthouse wearing hoodies to show solidarity with the slain teen, who wore one the night he died.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-case-special-prosecutor-call-grand-jury-article-1.1058605#ixzz1rYsyfMij

This could mean several things:


The prosecutor doesn't feel that she has enough evidence to convince a grand jury, and will file charges herself.
The prosecutor doesn't feel that she has enough evidence to go to trial and will not file charges.
The prosecutor doesn't want to deal with the media circus that will surround the grand jury, and wants to avoid a poltical spectacle.
They couldn't find enough jury members who hadn't been tainted by the media coverage, or who were willing to undergo the intense scrutiny of the various activist groups involved.
They're taking the New Black Panther Party's threats seriously.
The prosecutor thinks that hoodies make her look fat.
Any or none of the above. We just don't know...

Bailey
04-09-2012, 12:37 PM
Or the feds could file charges, although that would be a stretch, as they'd have to prove that Zimmerman acted with the intent to deny Martin his civil rights.

And, of course, if Eric Holder prosecutes a Latino for defending himself, what might that do to Obama's percentage of Latino voters?


One arm of obamas re-elections campaign (MSM) has been prepping the people for weeks by calling Zimmerman a "white Latino" so if he is let go all the blacks will riot and it will give obama a chance to blame the white man and maybe work in a Blame bush line as well.

Elspeth
04-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Or the feds could file charges, although that would be a stretch, as they'd have to prove that Zimmerman acted with the intent to deny Martin his civil rights.

And, of course, if Eric Holder prosecutes a Latino for defending himself, what might that do to Obama's percentage of Latino voters?

There ya go.



This could mean several things:


The prosecutor doesn't feel that she has enough evidence to convince a grand jury, and will file charges herself.
The prosecutor doesn't feel that she has enough evidence to go to trial and will not file charges.
The prosecutor doesn't want to deal with the media circus that will surround the grand jury, and wants to avoid a poltical spectacle.
They couldn't find enough jury members who hadn't been tainted by the media coverage, or who were willing to undergo the intense scrutiny of the various activist groups involved.
They're taking the New Black Panther Party's threats seriously.
The prosecutor thinks that hoodies make her look fat.
Any or none of the above. We just don't know...


I'm thinking you were right the first time, when you figured that Eric Holder had finally realized George was Hispanic. :friendly_wink:

Seriously, though, she could still file charges without a grand jury. Considering the media pressure on this case, I still think this is a possibility.

Adam Wood
04-09-2012, 12:56 PM
One arm of obamas re-elections campaign (MSM) has been prepping the people for weeks by calling Zimmerman a "white Latino" so if he is let go all the blacks will riot and it will give obama a chance to blame the white man and maybe work in a Blame bush line as well.

Barack Obama inherited Trayvon Martin from a previous administration.

Bailey
04-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Barack Obama inherited Trayvon Martin from a previous administration.

That was tongue in cheek but I wont doubt that some way he'll blame him.

Bailey
04-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Whats this talk of not having enough evidence? Grand Juries could indite a ham sandwhich.

Odysseus
04-09-2012, 03:02 PM
Whats this talk of not having enough evidence? Grand Juries could indite a ham sandwhich.

Yes, but then somebody has to convict it. If that doesn't happen, then you get massive rioting, and believe it or not, that's the last thing that the Democrats want. Massive civil disturbances before an election tend to hurt incumbents. Look at Chicago '68 or the Rodney King riots, both of which created an impression of impotence in the White House. The Crown Heights riot did the same thing to David Dinkins in NYC. Remember, Dinkins was elected to heal NYC's racial strife, and ended up alienating whites when he made things worse.

Here's the problem: If there isn't enough evidence to convict, then putting it in front of a grand jury might end up with a trial and acquittal, which doesn't serve Obama's reelection, although the race hustlers will get lots of air time and riots out of it, but that also doesn't benefit Obama's reelection. OTOH, if they decline to prosecute, then the meme of a white power establishment that's covering up the crime gains traction, which also benefits the race hustlers, but doesn't necessarily create a flashpoint for nationwide riots. Obama needs this to simmer, but not boil over.

And, don't discount the Latino vote. This could really backfire on Obama. Black/Latino relations in inner cities are not good, despite what liberals would have us believe. The FBI crime stats lump Latinos in under the white category, which drives up the white numbers, but black/white homicides tend to be black/Latino homicides, and the decision to treat Latinos as whites for the purpose of ginning up hate crimes hysteria won't go down well in the Barrio.

Adam Wood
04-09-2012, 03:39 PM
Yes, but then somebody has to convict it. If that doesn't happen, then you get massive rioting, and believe it or not, that's the last thing that the Democrats want. Massive civil disturbances before an election tend to hurt incumbents. Look at Chicago '68 or the Rodney King riots, both of which created an impression of impotence in the White House. The Crown Heights riot did the same thing to David Dinkins in NYC. Remember, Dinkins was elected to heal NYC's racial strife, and ended up alienating whites when he made things worse.

Here's the problem: If there isn't enough evidence to convict, then putting it in front of a grand jury might end up with a trial and acquittal, which doesn't serve Obama's reelection, although the race hustlers will get lots of air time and riots out of it, but that also doesn't benefit Obama's reelection. OTOH, if they decline to prosecute, then the meme of a white power establishment that's covering up the crime gains traction, which also benefits the race hustlers, but doesn't necessarily create a flashpoint for nationwide riots. Obama needs this to simmer, but not boil over.

And, don't discount the Latino vote. This could really backfire on Obama. Black/Latino relations in inner cities are not good, despite what liberals would have us believe. The FBI crime stats lump Latinos in under the white category, which drives up the white numbers, but black/white homicides tend to be black/Latino homicides, and the decision to treat Latinos as whites for the purpose of ginning up hate crimes hysteria won't go down well in the Barrio.Something tells me that Zimmerman prosecution = forget all Latino vote, especially in Florida. I don't think Obama can afford to throw away 27 Electoral votes.

Teetop
04-09-2012, 05:04 PM
I've read other news accounts that Corey won't send anything to a Grand Jury, except first degree cases.

Could go either way;

If she brings charges and Zimmerman is found not guilty, riots.

If she doesn't bring charges, riots.

Good luck, Florida!

Hawkgirl
04-09-2012, 05:14 PM
I don't think starting riots in a state that now has been accused of being gun hungry is a smart idea.

ABC in Georgia
04-09-2012, 09:13 PM
I've read other news accounts that Corey won't send anything to a Grand Jury, except first degree cases.

Could go either way;

If she brings charges and Zimmerman is found not guilty, riots.

If she doesn't bring charges, riots.

Good luck, Florida!

Teetop ...

That is my fear, also, as well as the fears of some of our friends down in Florida.

We left Fla. 4 years ago, after having lived there for 10 plus years.

Hang onto your hats, Hawkgirl, SR, and SLW! Things might just get nasty in many parts of the state.

Hell's bells ... most likely in many parts of the country, for that matter!

~ ABC

SarasotaRepub
04-09-2012, 09:20 PM
Teetop ...

That is my fear, also, as well as the fears of some of our friends down in Florida.

We left Fla. 4 years ago, after having lived there for 10 plus years.

Hang onto your hats, Hawkgirl, SR, and SLW! Things might just get nasty in many parts of the state.

Hell's bells ... most likely in many parts of the country, for that matter!

~ ABC

It would be...most unwise...for anyone to get "nasty" with us. :friendly_wink:

Adam Wood
04-09-2012, 09:53 PM
Just stand your ground, SR.


*snicker*

Rockntractor
04-09-2012, 10:01 PM
Just stand your ground, SR.


*snicker*

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SarasotaRepub
04-09-2012, 10:01 PM
Just stand your ground, SR.


*snicker*


I think I'll give the AR's and the SKS a cleaning and oiling tomorrow. The ION Cannon is such a bitch!!! :biggrin-new:

ABC in Georgia
04-09-2012, 10:44 PM
Oh my, SR ...

Just coming back in to chuckle and collect my fee for being the "straight-man" ... er, woman ... in message #15, that led to all the following witty comments.

~ ABC :smile-new:

DumbAss Tanker
04-10-2012, 10:37 AM
The ION Cannon is such a bitch!!! :biggrin-new:

You think maintaining one is a bitch, wait 'til you get the power bill at the end of the month if you ever have to use it.

:cool:

Odysseus
04-10-2012, 12:24 PM
I think I'll give the AR's and the SKS a cleaning and oiling tomorrow. The ION Cannon is such a bitch!!! :biggrin-new:

Don't you have a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range?