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Generation Why?
04-10-2012, 12:29 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/143731/in-reversal-breivik-declared-sane.html


Not a big surprise. Trial starts Monday.

Odysseus
04-10-2012, 01:16 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/143731/in-reversal-breivik-declared-sane.html


Not a big surprise. Trial starts Monday.

How long will it be before the media convicts everybody quoted in his diatribe?

noonwitch
04-10-2012, 01:20 PM
I read somewhere, probably here, that the most he faces in prison is 20 years. I may not be a death penalty advocate, but this guy should not ever be allowed to walk around free again.

Generation Why?
04-10-2012, 01:22 PM
I read somewhere, probably here, that the most he faces in prison is 20 years. I may not be a death penalty advocate, but this guy should not ever be allowed to walk around free again.

I believe it is between 20 and 28 years. Either way, pretty ridiculous. Norway has some severely lax sentencing procedures. And Ody, I give it a month.

Odysseus
04-10-2012, 01:27 PM
I read somewhere, probably here, that the most he faces in prison is 20 years. I may not be a death penalty advocate, but this guy should not ever be allowed to walk around free again.

Social welfare states assume that society is at fault whenever a crime is committed (except, of course, crimes against the ideas of those running that society). Brevik is simply the beneficiary of that line of reason. This, BTW, is one of the reasons for hate crimes laws, so that people like Brevik can be punished beyond the normal sentences imposed on run of the mill murderers and rapists. After all, they're just misunderstood victims of their upbringing, society, capitalism, or whatever else you want to blame instead of the individual. A person who commits a rape or murder can be confined to the full therapeutic apparatus of the state, while a "hater" can be subjected to real punishment. That way, political crimes get worse punishments than regular ones, and in some cases, simply the opinions of the accused can be used to determine his guilt, whether a crime occurred or not.

Artois
04-21-2012, 10:26 AM
I believe it is between 20 and 28 years. Either way, pretty ridiculous.

I thought I heard a similar sentencing range. There was also mention that another option they have is indefinite detention, as long as he's deemed a threat to society.

Generation Why?
04-23-2012, 01:05 PM
I thought I heard a similar sentencing range. There was also mention that another option they have is indefinite detention, as long as he's deemed a threat to society.

After further reading turns out he is looking at 21 years. Woohoo, apathy and socialism!

noonwitch
04-23-2012, 03:10 PM
After further reading turns out he is looking at 21 years. Woohoo, apathy and socialism!

Can't it at least be 21 years in prison in a third world country?

Odysseus
04-23-2012, 04:50 PM
Can't it at least be 21 years in prison in a third world country?

What? And violate his civil rights? For shame...

RedGrouse
04-23-2012, 07:54 PM
I thought I heard a similar sentencing range. There was also mention that another option they have is indefinite detention, as long as he's deemed a threat to society.

Forvaring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway

Articulate_Ape
04-23-2012, 08:17 PM
What? And violate his civil rights? For shame...

Maybe he was cleaning his gun.

Seriously though, as someone who is of Norwegian heritage, I have to ask WTF is wrong with these people. Wait... Don't answer that.