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Elspeth
04-12-2012, 04:59 PM
The prosecutor who slapped a second degree murder charge on George Zimmerman for what is, at most, an involuntary manslaughter charge, has a history of overcharging. She is currently prosecuting a 12 year old for first degree murder as an adult.

Read about Avenging Angela here:



Cristian Fernandez, 12 years old (http://www.invisiblechildren.org/2011/10/02/save-cristian-fernanedez-12-years-old-sign-the-moveon-petition/)


Cristian Fernandez is only 12 years old. And if Florida prosecutor Angela Corey has her way, he’ll never leave jail again.

Cristian hasn’t had an easy life. He’s the same age now as his mother was when he was born. He’s a survivor of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. In 2010, Cristian watched his stepfather commit suicide to avoid being charged with abusing Cristian.

Last January, Cristian was wrestling with his 2-year-old brother, David, and accidentally broke David’s leg. Despite this, their mother left Cristian with his brother again in March. While the two boys were alone, Cristian allegedly pushed his brother against a bookcase, and David sustained a head injury. After their mother returned home, she waited six hours before taking David to the hospital. David eventually died.

Now Cristian is being charged with first degree murder — as an adult. He’s the youngest person in the history of his Florida county to receive this charge, and his next hearing is coming up in a just a few days.

Melissa Higgins works with kids who get caught up in the criminal justice system in her home state of New Hampshire. When she read about Cristian’s case, she was appalled — so she started a petition on Change.org asking Florida State’s Attorney Angela Corey to try Cristian as a child. Please sign Melissa’s petition today before Cristian’s next hearing on October 5.

As part of his prosecution, Cristian has been examined by two different forensic psychiatrists — each of whom concluded that he was “emotionally underdeveloped but essentially reformable despite a tough life.”

Cristian has already been through more than most of us can imagine — and now the rest of his life is in the hands of a Florida prosecutor who wants to make sure Cristian never leaves jail.

The purpose of the juvenile justice system is to reform kids who haven’t gotten a fair shake. If Cristian is sent to adult prison, it will be more than a tragedy for him — it will also be a signal to other prosecutors that kids’ lives are acceptable collateral in the quest to be seen as “tough on crime.”

Cristian’s next hearing is coming up quickly on October 5. State’s Attorney Angela Corey needs to know that her actions are being watched — please sign the petition asking her not to try Cristian as an adult:

http://www.change.org/petitions/reverse-decision-to-try-12-yo-cristian-fernandez-as-an-adult



The truth about this case is that NO ONE knows exactly what happened. The 24-year old mother spent 5 hours Googling "head injuries" trying to solve the problem herself, it seems. There is enough doubt and the child is young enough--Cristian really is a boy, unlike Trayvon--that he should be tried as a juvenile (if at all) and he really should be sent off for serious counseling.

But Avenging Angela doesn't care about that. This is the harshest charge ever on a Florida 12-year-old, and Avenging Angela will make her career on this if it is allowed to go through. Normally, liberals would be working against Avenging Angela in this case. Instead, because she overcharged George Zimmerman, their latest object of racial hatred, they will say nothing about it. By the way, Cristian is Hispanic as is Zimmerman.

The governor of Florida hand-picked her. He clearly wanted the worst charge he could file against Zimmerman. Avenging Angela looked like she was running for office at the press conference yesterday and clearly was biased towards Trayvon's "sweet parents" (as she called them.) This is her big moment to build a national presence and career.

Gentleman Pirate
04-12-2012, 05:23 PM
Its a common practice for prosecutors to overcharge. It gives them wiggle room for plea bargains. I don't see where I should be outraged.

Bailey
04-12-2012, 05:30 PM
Its a common practice for prosecutors to overcharge. It gives them wiggle room for plea bargains. I don't see where I should be outraged.

I agree, he'll prolly cop to a lesser charge and only serve like 4 or 5 years.

Starbuck
04-12-2012, 05:59 PM
Its a common practice for prosecutors to overcharge. It gives them wiggle room for plea bargains. I don't see where I should be outraged.
Yeah. I feel sad more than anything else.
Leaving the confines of the house or your car with a gun in your possession should be deliberated very carefully. I don't carry a gun. There has never been a situation when I wished I had one, and maybe there never will be. All I can do is hope. For right now, the gun stays in the house or in the car.

God Bless You, George Zimmerman.:frown-new:

Elspeth
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Is it common to charge a 12-year old with first degree murder?

Elspeth
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
I agree, he'll prolly cop to a lesser charge and only serve like 4 or 5 years.

He shouldn't serve any time. He was within the law and he was attacked.

FlaGator
04-12-2012, 09:37 PM
I live in Jacksonville, Cory is pretty good at being State's Attorney. She charged the 12 year old with first degree murder and offered his attorney a deal that would keep him in juvenil jail until he was 21 and then release him. His attorney turned the deal down.

FlaGator
04-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Idle speculation on my part but perhaps Cory charged him with 2nd degree murder because it appeases the militant crowd who what to kill Zimmerman and because she knows no jury will convict him of 2nd degree murder. I think that a jury wouldn't have much issue with convicted him of manslaughter but murder might be a little too much. Basically the best that can be hoped for is a hung jury. Zimmerman walks and the blame will fall on the jury.

NJCardFan
04-12-2012, 11:11 PM
Is it common to charge a 12-year old with first degree murder?

Google the name Aaron Kean of NJ.

Bailey
04-13-2012, 08:04 AM
Idle speculation on my part but perhaps Cory charged him with 2nd degree murder because it appeases the militant crowd who what to kill Zimmerman and because she knows no jury will convict him of 2nd degree murder. I think that a jury wouldn't have much issue with convicted him of manslaughter but murder might be a little too much. Basically the best that can be hoped for is a hung jury. Zimmerman walks and the blame will fall on the jury.

Yes I see something like this happening, but if he is aquitted watch out there will be roits in the streets.

noonwitch
04-13-2012, 08:44 AM
Is it common to charge a 12-year old with first degree murder?

Michigan once charged an 11 year old as an adult for first degree murder, but he ended up being sentenced as a juvenile. He is currently serving time as an adult for possession w/intent to deliver cocaine, so he is not exactly the best example of rehabilitation.


Having worked as a delinquency worker, I really think that the age to try a kid as an adult for a violent crime should be 15 or 16. I don't think an 11 or 12 year old really understands life and death situations, and in the case from Florida, there wasn't even intent to harm the other child and the situations is aggravated by a neglectful parent. The case here involved a kid firing a gun in the general direction of a stranger and actually killing him.

Odysseus
04-13-2012, 10:03 AM
Padding an indictment in order to make a plea bargain more attractive to the defense is an old practice, but I object to it because its sole purpuse is to intimidate the defense, not to address the actual facts of the case.

Novaheart
04-13-2012, 11:56 AM
Yeah. I feel sad more than anything else.
Leaving the confines of the house or your car with a gun in your possession should be deliberated very carefully. I don't carry a gun. There has never been a situation when I wished I had one, and maybe there never will be. All I can do is hope. For right now, the gun stays in the house or in the car.

God Bless You, George Zimmerman.:frown-new:

I carry a gun everywhere I go. If I could predict where and when I would need it, I could simply avoid those places and times. I also know that I am not the only one who carries on his bicycle, the guys at the bike shop do as well, because the bike path (being a former rail line) runs through neighborhoods of people who give aid, comfort, and shelter to criminals.