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Apocalypse
04-15-2012, 07:38 PM
NEW YORK (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/14/monsters-in-the-classroom) — What are parents to do when their child comes home from school with stories about “this creepy guy in my class” — and it turns out to be the teacher?


That’s a very real concern for parents with children in New York City public schools, where 14 teachers of highly dubious character have been reinstated to the classroom — and two others have been given “desk duty” — thanks to appeals by their powerful teachers union, the United Federation of Teachers.


NYDailyNews.com reports (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-05/news/31296372_1_michael-mulgrew-teachers-union-president-city-teachers) that 16 teachers “kept their jobs after being brought up on egregious charges, some sexual, some involving excessive personal familiarity with students.”


A few examples:


Gym and health teacher Willie Laraque was charged with bending a male student over a desk, leaning in to him and saying, “I’ll show you what is gay.” The Daily News reports Laraque is back in the classroom after paying a $10,000 fine.


Norman Siegel, a high school teacher, was accused of pressing his genitalia against a female student’s leg. Siegel only received a 45-day unpaid suspension, “although the arbitrator found that the girl’s charge was likely true” and that Siegel “was previously accused of a similar offense,” the Daily News writes.


There’s also a case involving Edward Cascio, a gym teacher who accepted pornographic pictures from a student — of another student. Cascio was back at work after serving his three-month suspension.


Keep reading… (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/14/monsters-in-the-classroom)

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Remember as the Unions keep telling us. This is about the children.

JB
04-15-2012, 07:59 PM
"Why would arbitrators throw kids to the wolves?" asks a Daily News editorial. "Because they make a living deciding such cases – and because they are hired by joint agreement of the Education Department and the UFT. They well know that if they toss teachers out of work, the union will do the same to them."Great system they have there.


The paper is calling on Gov. Andrew Cuomo to have teachers accused of bad behavior to stand before the "Office of Administrative Trials and Hearings, where every other civil servant goes for adjudication" and whose "professional administrative judges have no built-in bias against rendering the tough rulings needed to protect kids."And there's your simple solution. If any politico had the brass to stand up to the UFT that is.

Janice
04-15-2012, 08:47 PM
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AMERICAN IDLE: Teacher Roland Pierre, 75, has spent 13 years in the Department of Education's "rubber rooms."

Ive always had the impression NY City has always had a prob with illiterate, perverted and or unethical teachers since its nearly impossible to fire them. Think Im kidding?

Ever hear of the 'Rubber Room'? Where they passed the days doing crosswords or napping while still earning their salaries? I remember one story called 'Rubber room's 'dirty' old man'.

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Rubber room's 'dirty' old man

He just won't leave. At age 75, Roland Pierre is the granddaddy of the rubber room -- 13 years in the purgatory of teachers yanked from the classroom for alleged wrongdoing. But the Department of Education can't fire Pierre, and he's stuck around long past the minimum retirement age.

Pierre was permanently removed from the classroom in 1997 after he was accused of sexually molesting a sixth-grade girl at PS 138 in Brooklyn. But since then, Pierre has continued to receive full pay and fringe benefits, including health, pension and vacation, officials said. He pulls down $97,101 a year. He's one of six tenured teachers that Chancellor Joel Klein has refused to return to the classroom, even though any criminal charges were dropped and DOE hearing officers let them off the hook.

Pierre has been "permanently reassigned" the longest of all. On June 26, 1997, Pierre, then 62, was arrested on felony sex-abuse charges after he allegedly called one of his students into an empty classroom where he taught English as a second language, closed the door and molested her. First he wrapped the girl in a "bear hug," according to a statement by then-schools investigator Ed Stancik. "He then kissed her on the mouth, inserted his tongue in her mouth, fondled her chest and reached under her skirt."

New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/rubber_room_dirty_old_man_t4OA6Bw25idPYynCnVJHyO)

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These 'Rubber Rooms' were supposedly ended. And where do you suppose most of them end up going? The head of the United Federation of Teachers says that nearly half of the 700 teachers originally assigned to the rubber rooms are now back in the work force doing administrative tasks. The others are doing scut work in school district offices or the Department of Education's food services arm. So they are effectively some of the most highly paid secretaries and food grunts one could imagine, but theyre still around.

Janice
04-15-2012, 08:59 PM
Retired Teacher Reveals He Was Illiterate Until Age 48

OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- John Corcoran graduated from college and taught high school for 17 years without being able to read, write or spell.

Corcoran's life of secrecy started at a young age. He said his teachers moved him up from grade to grade. Often placed in what he calls the "dumb row," the images of his tribulations in the classroom are still vividly clear.

"I can remember when I was 8 years old saying my prayers at night saying, 'please, God, tomorrow when it's my turn to read please let me read.' You just pretend that you are invisible and when the teacher says, 'Johnnie read,' you just wait the teacher out because you know the teacher has to go away at some point," said Corcoran.

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In 1961, Corcoran graduated with a bachelor's degree in education, while still illiterate he contends. He then went on to become a teacher during a teacher shortage.

"When I graduated from the university, the school district in El Paso, where I went to school, gave almost all the college education graduates a job," said Corcoran.

For 17 years Corcoran taught high school for the Oceanside School District. Relying on teacher's assistants for help and oral lesson plans,

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It wasn't until he was 48 years old that he gave reading and writing another chance. He drove to an inconspicuous office with a sign he couldn't read. He studied and worked with a tutor at the Literacy Center of Carlsbad. Assigned to a 65-year-old volunteer tutor, Eleanor Condit, he was able to read at a sixth-grade level within a year.

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Corcoran is now an education advocate.

"I believe that illiteracy in America is a form of child neglect and child abuse and the child is blamed and they carry the shame, if we just teach our people how to read we'd give them a fair chance," Corcoran said.

San Diego News (http://www.10news.com/news/15274005/detail.html)

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"Government education" - quality you can trust.

Odysseus
04-16-2012, 12:20 AM
Retired Teacher Reveals He Was Illiterate Until Age 48

OCEANSIDE, Calif. -- John Corcoran graduated from college and taught high school for 17 years without being able to read, write or spell.

Corcoran's life of secrecy started at a young age. He said his teachers moved him up from grade to grade. Often placed in what he calls the "dumb row," the images of his tribulations in the classroom are still vividly clear.

"I can remember when I was 8 years old saying my prayers at night saying, 'please, God, tomorrow when it's my turn to read please let me read.' You just pretend that you are invisible and when the teacher says, 'Johnnie read,' you just wait the teacher out because you know the teacher has to go away at some point," said Corcoran.

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In 1961, Corcoran graduated with a bachelor's degree in education, while still illiterate he contends. He then went on to become a teacher during a teacher shortage.

"When I graduated from the university, the school district in El Paso, where I went to school, gave almost all the college education graduates a job," said Corcoran.

For 17 years Corcoran taught high school for the Oceanside School District. Relying on teacher's assistants for help and oral lesson plans,

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It wasn't until he was 48 years old that he gave reading and writing another chance. He drove to an inconspicuous office with a sign he couldn't read. He studied and worked with a tutor at the Literacy Center of Carlsbad. Assigned to a 65-year-old volunteer tutor, Eleanor Condit, he was able to read at a sixth-grade level within a year.

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Corcoran is now an education advocate.

"I believe that illiteracy in America is a form of child neglect and child abuse and the child is blamed and they carry the shame, if we just teach our people how to read we'd give them a fair chance," Corcoran said.

San Diego News (http://www.10news.com/news/15274005/detail.html)

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"Government education" - quality you can trust.

You cannot make this lunacy up.

Now, isn't Wei a teacher? At least, he claims to be one. I wonder how many of his students have to recite Marx from memory because they can't read?

Janice
04-16-2012, 01:06 AM
Govt education IS a form of child abuse imho. I could go on and on ...

Please dont get me started.

Lanie
04-16-2012, 07:51 AM
Teachers Unions for the most part need to be destroyed.

"Desk duty." Reminds me of how the RCC used to transport a molestor priest.

noonwitch
04-16-2012, 09:07 AM
The 8th grade science teacher who forced girls to rub his neck during class always had an NEA sticker on his door. Not that many other teachers did-maybe they were embarrassed to be associated with him?

On the other side, the first case cited is one in which the teacher was not convicted of the offense with which he had been charged. What is the district supposed to do-if they fire him, he sues. If they let him teach, the next kid's parents sue. He refuses to retire (although this is how my union/employer would handle it, if there were no criminal charges).

Novaheart
04-16-2012, 10:07 AM
The paper is calling on Gov. Andrew Cuomo to have teachers accused of bad behavior to stand before the "Office of Administrative Trials and Hearings, where every other civil servant goes for adjudication" and whose "professional administrative judges have no built-in bias against rendering the tough rulings needed to protect kids."
That’s a good start, but education reformers should demand changes to teacher tenure, so district officials don’t have to spend a small fortune in legal fees every time they attempt to remove a perverse educator from the classroom. Given UFT’s influence over New York’s school system, such a bold change might not be possible. But New Yorkers must do everything in their power to protect their students from these teachers – and their union.

I know it's fun to bash teachers and the NEA, but the only valid objection here is that the system appears unwilling to take these cases to the level at which an authoritative finding of fact can be made.

If we toss teachers based only on allegations or repeated allegations, how long would it be before the little darlings (who are already aware that the school, police, and their parents won't significantly punish them) start accusing teachers of sexual misconduct when they don't like their grades or because they are more bored than usual today?

Arroyo_Doble
04-16-2012, 11:05 AM
If we toss teachers based only on allegations or repeated allegations, how long would it be before the little darlings (who are already aware that the school, police, and their parents won't significantly punish them) start accusing teachers of sexual misconduct when they don't like their grades or because they are more bored than usual today?

We passed that long ago.

Kids are well aware they are running the asylum. Even the so-called conservatives are on the "blame the teacher" bandwagon.

NJCardFan
04-16-2012, 11:46 AM
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txradioguy
04-16-2012, 12:43 PM
Color me shocked. Nova and Annoyo defending the perps and pervs and blaming the kids.

How typically Liberal.

Odysseus
04-16-2012, 02:49 PM
I know it's fun to bash teachers and the NEA, but the only valid objection here is that the system appears unwilling to take these cases to the level at which an authoritative finding of fact can be made.

If we toss teachers based only on allegations or repeated allegations, how long would it be before the little darlings (who are already aware that the school, police, and their parents won't significantly punish them) start accusing teachers of sexual misconduct when they don't like their grades or because they are more bored than usual today?

But because the system doesn't allow for authoritative findings of fact, we cannot toss teachers who do commit criminal acts. That's the crux of the problem. My mother taught in the NYC school system for over thirty years, and she had some astonishing stories of teacher malfeasance. When she was a department head, she had a subordinate who refused to do her job and spent her time radicalizing students, so that any attempt to discipline her was met with bogus charges of racism. My mother documented everything that she did, but the most that she was able to do was to get her transferred to another school. The system never got rid of bad teachers, it only moved them around.


We passed that long ago.

Kids are well aware they are running the asylum. Even the so-called conservatives are on the "blame the teacher" bandwagon.

As I stated above, I grew up in the NYC school system, both as a student and the child of a teacher. The problem is not bogus charges that end careers, since careers never end over any charges, but real charges that are never addressed. As Nova pointed out (before lapsing into a kneejerk defense of the rights of teachers who cannot be fired unless they... no, they just can't be fired, period), the problem is that there is no system in place that allows for an independent finding of fact, much less taking action based on the facts. Blaming the kids doesn't change that.