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megimoo
09-17-2008, 06:54 AM
FIRST AMEDMENT 101 - Goldberg'S LESSON

Seperation Of Church And State !
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“When they have opened a gap in the hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the Church and the wilderness of the world, God hath ever broke down the wall itself.”

Jefferson thus wrote:

“I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.” .................................................. .....................


As talk show host Dennis Prager often says about ABC’s daily liberal mah-jongg circle “The View,” if the program didn’t already exist, someone would have to create it.

Save for one well-meaning, but often overmatched (if only by sheer volume), token conservative (Elizabeth Hasselbeck), the program’s panel is a hyper-caffeinated gaggle of cackling leftist yentas. It’s almost amusing.

When Senator John McCain, much to his credit, appeared on the program last week, Whoopie Goldberg – comedienne, actress and constitutional academic - asked him to clarify his viewpoint on the separation between church and state. Her concerns, presumably, of a state-mandated religion becoming an inevitability should a bible-thumping, rifle-nut like Sarah Palin ever rise to the top spot in the land were obviously genuine. (God bless her). Ms. Goldberg went on to point out that the United States is comprised of many different religions these days.

She’s good.

First, the obvious point … that one sentence in a private letter from Thomas Jefferson to a Connecticut religious group should, nearly a century-and-a-half after the fact, be the unembellished foundation for the trite, belabored, utilitarian argument for a “wall of separation between church and state” is laughable. (I wonder if Whoopie believes those words are actually in the federal Constitution). What about the endless other writings of Jefferson? How about the words inscribed on his monument in Washington, D.C? Or the words he authored in the Declaration of Independence?

Of course, Jefferson was a slave-holder, so his credibility takes an immediate hit on any issues inconsistent with modern liberalism.

Jefferson’s one-time use of the term in a personal letter was actually written as an attempt at finding common ground with the Baptist community, of which he was not a member. In hoping to ease their concerns, and responding to spreading rumors that a national religion was close to being established (the Congregationalists), Jefferson chose to employ the language and style spoken by Roger Williams, a well-known Baptist preacher, to make his point. Williams had said:

“When they have opened a gap in the hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the Church and the wilderness of the world, God hath ever broke down the wall itself.”

Jefferson thus wrote:

“I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.” snip


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