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SarasotaRepub
05-28-2012, 10:48 AM
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Mon May 28, 2012, 12:24 AM
cynatnite



What is a hero?

MSNBC's Chris Hayes says this:

ďI feelÖ uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war. Um, and, I donít want to obviously desecrate or disrespect memory of anyone thatís fallen, and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism, you know, hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers, and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic. But maybe Iím wrong about that.Ē


I think I agree with Chris Hayes. I always saw heroes as those who put their lives at risk in order to save others. Whether it's in battle, a house fire, drowning or other dangers...if someone risked their life in order to save someone, they were a hero.

It seems like that the term "hero" gets tossed around so easily to apply to anyone that's ever put on a uniform. Maybe it's used to make it easier to send our troops off to war and to not mind so much when they die.

Do you think this is an overused word? How do you feel about it?





:rolleyes:

ralph wiggum
05-28-2012, 11:37 AM
With so many nutcase heroes that they worship at the DUmp (Helen Thomas, Cindy Sheehan, Howard Zinn, Keef Olberdork, Algore, to name a few), it is no wonder the word hero has become so distorted.

Gina
05-28-2012, 11:38 AM
It's elitists like Hayes who give people like the DUmmies the go ahead to be stupid. Video of Chris Hayes and then a url Newsbusters came up with about his parents.

Link about heroes (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2012/05/27/chris-hayes-im-uncomfortable-calling-fallen-military-heroes#ixzz1w6mBDLvo)

MSNBC's Anti-Military Chris Hayes: 'My Parents Are Totally Amazing, Heroic Figures' (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/05/28/msnbcs-anti-military-hayes-my-parents-are-totally-amazing-heroic-figu#ixzz1wB0mWm52)

DumbAss Tanker
05-28-2012, 12:38 PM
For DU, or MSNBC for that matter, this is like a pack of coyotes trying to have a learned discussion on nuclear fusion technology.

Odysseus
05-28-2012, 12:41 PM
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:rolleyes:

Apparently, a hero is a leftist who works to impose socialism on the rest of us.

txradioguy
05-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Apparently, a hero is a leftist who works to impose socialism on the rest of us.

Well that's what Hayes' parents are...hence the reason he thinks they are heroes and is uncomfortable putting you and I in the same status.

Gina
05-29-2012, 12:28 PM
Well, well, guess who's backing up the truck.
MSNBC host Hayes apologizes for 'heroes' comments
Link (http://online.wsj.com/article/AP9f308f9fc91045faa7a4390fe1e2b533.html?fb_ref=wsj _share_FB&fb_source=timeline)

noonwitch
05-29-2012, 01:01 PM
People get the term "role model" mixed up with the word "hero". I agree with the original statement that a hero is someone who risks his life for someone else. Cops, firefighters, soldiers, are all people who work in jobs in which they risk their lives for someone else or for something larger. The bystander who risks his life to save another-a neighbor who runs into a burning house to rescue someone is a good example of a hero, too.



A role model is someone who set a good example, at least if used in a positive manner. There are lots of them out there.

The word hero has been used in the pop culture to describe someone who is really a role model.

Odysseus
05-29-2012, 01:31 PM
Well, well, guess who's backing up the truck.
MSNBC host Hayes apologizes for 'heroes' comments
Link (http://online.wsj.com/article/AP9f308f9fc91045faa7a4390fe1e2b533.html?fb_ref=wsj _share_FB&fb_source=timeline)


In a blog post Monday on the show's website, Hayes apologized for not living up to his own "standards of rigor, respect and empathy."

I'd say that the problem is that he did live up to them. Empathy isn't for the likes of us murderous baby-killers, it's for peace-loving terrorists like the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Some of these guys really need to spend some time among the bad guys to get some perspective.

michaelsean
05-29-2012, 03:38 PM
Heroes intentionally put themselves in harms way to protect another. Peacetime military members fit under that definition because danger could arise at any time. Or someone like a Mother Teresa and many others who offer their lives to the betterment of the unfortunate.

That's why I really never thought of that Sully dude who landed the plane a hero. He was really good, and his abilities saved many lives, but what the hell else was he going to do?

Lanie
05-29-2012, 05:12 PM
Well, well, guess who's backing up the truck.
MSNBC host Hayes apologizes for 'heroes' comments
Link (http://online.wsj.com/article/AP9f308f9fc91045faa7a4390fe1e2b533.html?fb_ref=wsj _share_FB&fb_source=timeline)

I'm sorry I got caught. lol.

Adam Wood
05-29-2012, 06:22 PM
People get the term "role model" mixed up with the word "hero". I agree with the original statement that a hero is someone who risks his life for someone else. Cops, firefighters, soldiers, are all people who work in jobs in which they risk their lives for someone else or for something larger. The bystander who risks his life to save another-a neighbor who runs into a burning house to rescue someone is a good example of a hero, too.



A role model is someone who set a good example, at least if used in a positive manner. There are lots of them out there.

The word hero has been used in the pop culture to describe someone who is really a role model.What Mike said:


Heroes intentionally put themselves in harms way to protect another. Peacetime military members fit under that definition because danger could arise at any time. Or someone like a Mother Teresa and many others who offer their lives to the betterment of the unfortunate.And since it was on yesterday, the most amazing definition of "hero" ever in the history of mankind, starting at 1:25:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCo3n0bxLHQ


In case you can't youtube:



"Do you remember ... the letter that Mike Ranney wrote me?"
"You do?"
"Do you remember how he ended it?"
[apparent "no" answer from off camera]
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said 'Grampa, were you a hero in the war?'"
"Grampa said 'No, but I served in the company of heroes.'"

michaelsean
05-30-2012, 10:43 AM
"Do you remember ... the letter that Mike Ranney wrote me?"
"You do?"
"Do you remember how he ended it?"
[apparent "no" answer from off camera]
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said 'Grampa, were you a hero in the war?'"
"Grampa said 'No, but I served in the company of heroes.'"

It's what you will hear virtually every war veteran say, and it gives you chills. They all look at their own deeds as doing what was necessary. No more. No less.

Btw when you see the real Bill Guarnere, was there ever a better casting in the history of movies? It could be his grandson.

Adam Wood
05-30-2012, 12:52 PM
It's what you will hear virtually every war veteran say, and it gives you chills. They all look at their own deeds as doing what was necessary. No more. No less.

Btw when you see the real Bill Guarnere, was there ever a better casting in the history of movies? It could be his grandson.Heh! Ain't that the truth!